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One Ton Front End - Tie Rod End Mismatch [message #224921] Tue, 08 October 2013 22:48 Go to next message
bwevers is currently offline  bwevers   United States
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On the way home from Coos Bay my moho was wandering and
required constant attention to keep it in the lane.

Today we inspected the front end with my wife wiggling
the steering wheel while I was under the coach looking
for loose parts.

It seems that the tie rod end was loose where it
slides into the tapered hole in the knuckle.
The tie rod end has probably been loose for a while.

Question: Has anyone checked to see if the original GMC
tie rod ends have the same taper as the K3500 One-Ton knuckle?
And does the K3500 knuckle have to be reamed with the correct taper?

Thanks,
Bill




Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States 1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon 455 F Block, G heads San Jose
Re: One Ton Front End - Tie Rod End Mismatch [message #224932 is a reply to message #224921] Wed, 09 October 2013 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill,
Did we supply the kit?


Jim Kanomata Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA jimk@appliedairfilters.com http://www.appliedgmc.com 1-800-752-7502
Re: [GMCnet] One Ton Front End - Tie Rod End Mismatch [message #224959 is a reply to message #224932] Wed, 09 October 2013 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On the Hubler Version II, the knuckle that we supply with the kit is taper
reamed to fit the tie rod that we use in the kit. As I can not see your
pieces, I don't know what you have. Do you have a thin distressed nut on
the tie rod stud, or a castellated nut with cotter pin?
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403


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Re: One Ton Front End - Tie Rod End Mismatch [message #224964 is a reply to message #224921] Wed, 09 October 2013 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bwevers is currently offline  bwevers   United States
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I disassembled the tie rod end this morning.

My tie rod ends have castellated nuts.
The nut was not snug, not even tightened.
I unscrewed it after pulling out the cotter pin,
without using a wrench, very loose.
It was had 1/8 inch play.

Jim K supplied the kit.
The taper on the tie rod end is 1.125" per foot.
The hole on the One Ton knuckle looks to be 1.5" per foot taper.

Which is the correct tie rod end to use with the knuckle?
Do I need an adapter sleeve to mate with the Toronado tie rod end?

Or do I use the K3500 tie rod ends?

Thanks,
Bill


Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States 1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon 455 F Block, G heads San Jose
Re: [GMCnet] One Ton Front End - Tie Rod End Mismatch [message #224982 is a reply to message #224921] Wed, 09 October 2013 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On the current version of the Hubler 1ton, version II, the knuckle has been
taper reamed to exactly fit the tie rods that we use. Without looking at
yours, i cannot say precisely what you have. Do you have a distressed nut
or a castellated nut with a cotter key on the tie rod stud?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 gmc Royale 403
On Oct 8, 2013 8:48 PM, "Bill Wevers" <gmc1975@att.net> wrote:

>
>
> On the way home from Coos Bay my moho was wandering and
> required constant attention to keep it in the lane.
>
> Today we inspected the front end with my wife wiggling
> the steering wheel while I was under the coach looking
> for loose parts.
>
> It seems that the tie rod end was loose where it
> slides into the tapered hole in the knuckle.
> The tie rod end has probably been loose for a while.
>
> Question: Has anyone checked to see if the original GMC
> tie rod ends have the same taper as the K3500 One-Ton knuckle?
> And does the K3500 knuckle have to be reamed with the correct taper?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
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Re: One Ton Front End - Tie Rod End Mismatch [message #224987 is a reply to message #224921] Wed, 09 October 2013 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,
On my setup there's a castellated nut with a cotter key on the tie rod stud.

-Bill


Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States 1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon 455 F Block, G heads San Jose
Re: One Ton Front End - Tie Rod End Mismatch [message #224993 is a reply to message #224921] Wed, 09 October 2013 13:56 Go to previous message
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I think the tie rod hole in my One-Ton Knuckle is screwed up.

Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States 1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon 455 F Block, G heads San Jose
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