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"VIA Motors takes full-size GM pickups, vans and SUVs right off the end of the assembly line in Silao, Mexico, replaces the entire transmission with a big electric motor/generator, adds 24 kWh of batteries and -- in an operation that takes only an hour and a half -- creates a series hybrid. The stock GM V6 gas engine is left in place but serves only to charge the battery pack. ...VIA announced at Plug-In 2013 that it had $20 million worth of orders for its $15,000 conversions."
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131007/CARNEWS/131009886
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| Re: [GMCnet] "Bench Racing" the GMC - Modern propulsion [message #224823 is a reply to message #223666] |
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Can't help my self.
Fix It Again Tony = FIAT
Howard
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> On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:56, Ronald Pottol <ronaldpottol@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Granted, my Fiat was built before any of the GMCs, but it always felt like
> it was built to be worked on, unlike, say, a 1976 Ford Pinto, which was
> designed to be made cheap, and no regard to future work. On a Volvo list
> I'm on, people do like the Fiat 500 (well, the fast versions anyways).
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> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] "Bench Racing" the GMC - Modern propulsion [message #224830 is a reply to message #224819] |
Mon, 07 October 2013 21:51 |
Hal StClair
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The GM L92 engine is an all alum block and head used in Chevy trucks 2007 up. It is a 6.2 ltr 403 hp/417 tq engine with variable valve timing. It makes 300 ft lb of tq right off idle , about 370 at 2000 rpm and 400 by 3500. It would be a lot better package than the smaller LSX series engines.
As for the gentleman in Denver with the diesel swapped GMC, I looked at and drove it this spring when he had it up for sale.
He's a nice guy but the install was done by someone without a clue. It's a real shame people get sucked into having work done for good money by people that offer great promises and little else.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] "Bench Racing" the GMC - Modern propulsion [message #224837 is a reply to message #224836] |
Mon, 07 October 2013 23:30 |
Hal StClair
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The small 5.3 fwd for the Impala and the trans would be a little "lite" for the application I'd think. There may be an overdrive 425 in the works but until then....
Yes, the L92 is rwd only and the pans could be an issue. They are a structural member for the block, all alum. and take a little extra work. Its possible the GTO pan might clear but it would take some work.
As for me, I'm working on a 6.5 turbo diesel chevy for mine right now.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] "Bench Racing" the GMC - Modern propulsion [message #224840 is a reply to message #223666] |
Tue, 08 October 2013 00:01 |
rallymaster
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Keep us all informed, Hal
I asked Manny about his 4 cyl diesel, and he said it works, but a 6.5
will do the job much better.
More power, and relatively quiet.
ronC
On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 23:30:09 -0500 Hal StClair
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> As for me, I'm working on a 6.5 turbo diesel chevy for mine right
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> Hal
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| Re: [GMCnet] "Bench Racing" the GMC - Modern propulsion [message #224877 is a reply to message #224840] |
Tue, 08 October 2013 13:24 |
Hal StClair
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If others try this swap someone will have to come up with another starter to use. Tilton makes a starter but quit making the block adapter back in 1995. I was able to find an old stock one but between the starter and adapter I have $570 invested. Not too practical but there must be an alternative somewhere. I'm looking for a 425 case and final drive to jig up to modify the 6.5's oil pan. Will be using the earlier mechanical injection pump which makes things much easier, no electronic throttle or cruise.
I've had 6.2's in two different SOB's and they were both bigger and heaver than our GMC's and they both worked very well with mileage between 12 and 14. With lighter weight and better areo, I can't see why they wouldn't at least match those numbers.
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] "Bench Racing" the GMC - Modern propulsion [message #224879 is a reply to message #223666] |
Tue, 08 October 2013 13:46 |
JimGunther
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To reference my original post:
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=28111&start=0&rid=1192
"If you had a proper lever one could lift the world" (or words to that effect).
Wouldn't the "proper" transmission be that "lever"?
Assuming (that's arguable, of course) a six, seven, or eight speed transmission could "handle" the weight of the GMC, would IT be more important than the horsepower, torque, or even the power band of the particular engine employed.
Someone referenced the fact that the multi-speed transmission - "shifted a lot" under load conditions: so what? Should that matter (as long as at 70 MPH one is running along at 1600 RPM in top gear and smoothly adjusting into a lower gear as demanded by climbing or..??
Again, I'm just "bench racing" and soaking up the knowledge and speculation.
Jim Gunther
www.LotusV6.com
now former owner - ;(
73 GMC-II 2600
by Explorer
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