| Wet bath leak [message #223999] |
Sun, 29 September 2013 13:53  |
lance
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Location: Vancouver, WA
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Do the rest of you have as many issues as I seem to have or do I just post them all? No matter, the latest is a soggy hallway that seems to be due to a loose drain in the wet bath. It has not leaked before but looks as though a PO's poor caulking job has crumbled. The drain is now loose in the floor of the fiberglass wet bath and the last time (yesterday) that I took a shower, hair and gunk caused a one inch deep lake of standing water. When I slid my foot over the drain and removed the hair and gunk, the water drained normally. Later I noticed the soggy carpet in the hallway between the bath and the closet door. This seems like an easy fix if I could remove the drain but it seems inaccessible, as though it was pre-assembled before the bathroom module was installed in the motorhome. Anyone know how to remove the drain to properly caulk and reinstall, or any other suggestion short of spreading silicone or some other sealer over the top of the drain, which is only a short term band aide amateur solution that the PO did?
1974 Palm Beach
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| Re: Wet bath leak [message #224002 is a reply to message #223999] |
Sun, 29 September 2013 14:18  |
lance
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Dan, I looked at that but it seems to be glued in place. There are actually two pieces, one below the door and one below the entire bath module. Do I need to remove both or just the piece below the door? are there hidden screws under the adhesive the PO slathered everywhere? I haven't been able to detect any yet but will try to remove more of the PO's caulk, adhesive or whatever it is.
1974 Palm Beach
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| Re: Wet bath leak [message #224004 is a reply to message #223999] |
Sun, 29 September 2013 14:33 |
Galen
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On my '78 PB, there was a thin outer trim board, and under that a ~1x3 kickboard. It was attached by two big screws, one on each end. I had to pull the trim board off; it was attached with staples. These are the vertical kick boards that are under the door of the bath that cover the access to the shower trap. I don't think the trim board was original, but inner 1x3 looked original.
Galen Briggs
New Virginia, Iowa
1978 Palm Beach
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| Re: Wet bath leak [message #224009 is a reply to message #223999] |
Sun, 29 September 2013 14:51 |
Dennis S
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| lance wrote on Sun, 29 September 2013 13:53 |
Do the rest of you have as many issues as I seem to have or do I just post them all? No matter, the latest is a soggy hallway that seems to be due to a loose drain in the wet bath. It has not leaked before but looks as though a PO's poor caulking job has crumbled. The drain is now loose in the floor of the fiberglass wet bath and the last time (yesterday) that I took a shower, hair and gunk caused a one inch deep lake of standing water. When I slid my foot over the drain and removed the hair and gunk, the water drained normally. Later I noticed the soggy carpet in the hallway between the bath and the closet door. This seems like an easy fix if I could remove the drain but it seems inaccessible, as though it was pre-assembled before the bathroom module was installed in the motorhome. Anyone know how to remove the drain to properly caulk and reinstall, or any other suggestion short of spreading silicone or some other sealer over the top of the drain, which is only a short term band aide amateur solution that the PO did?
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Lance,
Like Dan's 74 my 73 has a toe board held on with a screw at either end.
With the toe board removed you should see a drain set up like this...
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/73-painted-desert-230/p36327-gmc-plumbing-drain-011.html
Later model coach have a shallow pan under the drain that runs out into the hall.
You remove the drain with a tool like this, it cost about $10 at the Home Depot or such...
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/73-painted-desert-230/p33841-0025.html
Then you make a donut out of plumbers putty and put it around the drain and on top of the floor and reinstall the drain in the floor. Wipe off the excess plumber's putty, reinstall the kick board and you are finished.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Wet bath leak [message #224013 is a reply to message #223999] |
Sun, 29 September 2013 15:00 |
lance
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OK, here's what I found; the lower kick board was held in place with two screws covered with something like Liquid Nails and about ten staples. I got it out to find that the PVC pipe that went from the drain to the PVC elbow that leads to the holding tank was laying loose on the floor. All the water from the shower was just running out on the floor behind the kick board. Previously my motorhome had been leaning a bit to the passenger side and must of the water must have been draining down the hole cut out for the toilet drain and down around the holding tank. Since I recently leveled the MH, the water was going everywhere. The PO must have tried to remove the drain and twisted the pee trap loose from the tube leading to the holding tank. Now it's off to Home Depot for a new chrome drain that the PO messed up and some PVC glue.
Thanks fellas. I probably would have figured it out but you guys made short work of it. Hope I can help you guys in the future.
1974 Palm Beach
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| Re: Wet bath leak [message #224016 is a reply to message #224011] |
Sun, 29 September 2013 15:02 |
Dennis S
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Sun, 29 September 2013 14:59 |
His is a 76 so a little different. I used a pair of pliers to tighten mine, instead of the tool. Just stick the 2 handles down in the thing and turn the jaws. Saved ten bux.
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I never miss the opportunity to buy a new tool:)
Actually, some drains can be a bear to remove without the wrench and pliers will break out the cross in the drain. But, we all have different experiences.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Wet bath leak [message #224029 is a reply to message #224013] |
Sun, 29 September 2013 17:11 |
Dennis S
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| lance wrote on Sun, 29 September 2013 15:00 |
OK, here's what I found; the lower kick board was held in place with two screws covered with something like Liquid Nails and about ten staples. I got it out to find that the PVC pipe that went from the drain to the PVC elbow that leads to the holding tank was laying loose on the floor. All the water from the shower was just running out on the floor behind the kick board. Previously my motorhome had been leaning a bit to the passenger side and must of the water must have been draining down the hole cut out for the toilet drain and down around the holding tank. Since I recently leveled the MH, the water was going everywhere. The PO must have tried to remove the drain and twisted the pee trap loose from the tube leading to the holding tank. Now it's off to Home Depot for a new chrome drain that the PO messed up and some PVC glue.
Thanks fellas. I probably would have figured it out but you guys made short work of it. Hope I can help you guys in the future.
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Lance
The original pipes are ABS not PVC -- ABS requires a different glue or one of the special does everything glues.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Wet bath leak [message #224089 is a reply to message #223999] |
Mon, 30 September 2013 12:26 |
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Matt Colie
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Lance,
Everything you have read above is correct, but I had a problem such that the drain could not be screwed tightly into the P-trap because the existing line came up against the lower surface of the shower sole (floor). So, I cut a spacer from some handy plastic pipe and that let me get the drain to make up solidly in the fiberglass sole. I wound a lot of teflon tape on the threads to make that seal and put some kind of sealant under the flange. (I don't think I used plumber's putty because it is not something I stock.) What ever - My shower doesn't leak on the ground or the floor any more.
Matt - I-75 70 mi south of Lexington.
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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