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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222448 is a reply to message #222301] |
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Tell you a trick - my coach is the first of anything I've ever owned made by GMC which has run more than ten thousand miles without stopping on me. '65 Corvair, 80s Citation all junque. My preference for a working truck is a Dodge, my preference for a working van is an Econoline. At work every three or four years we buy one Chev van to compare to the Fords, I've been doing so since the mid 70s. I have yet to buy a Chev which will run or last with the Fords. Could I of found one of the early body Dakotas with an LA engine in it and a five speed, I would of gone for it. People who got them won't let go of them. All the new ones I've seen are 4 door and automatic, neither of which suits me requirements. To each his own..... or "I rather see my sister in the ho'house than my brother in a Chevy"
Next week, it's gonna be PC vs Mac :)
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On Fri, 9/13/13, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Friday, September 13, 2013, 8:49 PM
On that Ranger, keep in mind that:
"Friends do not let friends drive FORDs".
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222451 is a reply to message #222328] |
Sat, 14 September 2013 19:14 |
jhbridges
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The Windsor is a bolt-up, Cleveland requires major surgery according to the guy who built this one. However, you run into the same problem as they had with the first iteration of the SHO Taurus (Yamaha engined ones). According to one of the Ford engineers in one of the magazines, they felt there was easily another hundred horsepower in the engine, but no way to couple it to the ground. Even with a piece of railroad iron inside the rear bumper, the 302 will break the rears loose on the Ranger through 4th and paint two black stripes if you punch it. I suspect it will be a handful in the wet.
--johnny
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On Sat, 9/14/13, Patrick Fitzmorris <fitzmorrispr@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
To: "gmclist" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Saturday, September 14, 2013, 12:47 AM
I always heard First On Race Day...
My own 1990 Bronco has been a truly faithful companion with
fairly minimal
maintenance. And the 351 windsor is a marvelous motor.
Indeed, it occurs to me that a 351 would probably bolt right
in to that
ranger.... all the tricky bits have been done...
On Sep 13, 2013 2:55 PM, "James Hupy" <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
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> You guys got it all wrong...FAST ON RACE DAY. (grin)
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 Gmc Royale 403
> On Sep 13, 2013 2:21 PM, "Mickey Space Ship Shuttle"
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> > fix or repair daily,.
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> > mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm playa
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> > On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> > > On that Ranger, keep in mind that:
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> > > "Friends do not let friends drive FORDs".
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> > > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > > 76 Palm Beach
> > > Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222460 is a reply to message #222457] |
Sat, 14 September 2013 19:48 |
roy1
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| jhb1 wrote on Sat, 14 September 2013 17:42 |
Still working on it maybe you should trade it  | WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 14 September 2013 20:18 |
I have a Ford in my garage that I have owned for 43 years.
Dan
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I think Dan is proud of his Ford. I've had my Ford for 52 years.it does currently have a Chevy motor though.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222480 is a reply to message #222450] |
Sun, 15 September 2013 00:19 |
Ken Burton
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 14 September 2013 19:18 |
I have a Ford in my garage that I have owned for 43 years.
Dan
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That is where Fords belong. Either in the garage, or in the junk Yard.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222491 is a reply to message #222480] |
Sun, 15 September 2013 07:00 |
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Ken,
Lessee -
Which US auto manufacturer adapted the assembly line to auto manufacture first?
Which US auto manufacturer raised their workers salary so they could afford to by one of the autos they were building?
Which US auto manufacturer won LeMans three years running taking positions 1-2-3?
Which US auto manufacturer has never received any loans or bailouts from the US Government?
I'll give you a hint - the name starts with an F and ends with a D. ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:20 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 14 September 2013 19:18
> I have a Ford in my garage that I have owned for 43 years.
> Dan
That is where Fords belong. Either in the garage, or in the junk Yard.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222503 is a reply to message #222491] |
Sun, 15 September 2013 09:01 |
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And question #4 below is why I will never buy another GM product and I was already not disposed to buy Chrysler stuff!
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:00:23 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
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> Ken,
>
> Lessee -
>
> Which US auto manufacturer adapted the assembly line to auto manufacture first?
>
> Which US auto manufacturer raised their workers salary so they could afford to by one of the autos they were building?
>
> Which US auto manufacturer won LeMans three years running taking positions 1-2-3?
>
> Which US auto manufacturer has never received any loans or bailouts from the US Government?
>
> I'll give you a hint - the name starts with an F and ends with a D. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:20 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
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> WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 14 September 2013 19:18
> > I have a Ford in my garage that I have owned for 43 years.
> > Dan
>
>
>
> That is where Fords belong. Either in the garage, or in the junk Yard.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222507 is a reply to message #222503] |
Sun, 15 September 2013 09:59 |
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| k2gkk wrote on Sun, 15 September 2013 09:01 |
And question #4 below is why I will never buy another GM product and I was already not disposed to buy Chrysler stuff!
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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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I buy cars based on reliability, miles per gallon, and comfort. The best cars I have ever owned on those measures were Toyotas. The worst I ever owned was a Chrysler. Oldsmobile was alright. Fords have given me more grief than the Olds, but not near as much as the Chrysler. I still own a couple of Fords, but will NEVER buy another Chrysler product. EVER.
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222794 is a reply to message #222747] |
Tue, 17 September 2013 07:38 |
jhbridges
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You needed a proper pickup - I had a 150 ('81) with a 300 six and the shifter in the floor. Ran it for 500k + miles and sold it to a local guy for $200 last year when the roof finally rusted through and rain fell in on me. A/C was still blowing cold when I sold it, albeit cycling. I put one transmission and two engines init in that period.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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On Mon, 9/16/13, Brian Waddell <sperline1@hotmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
To: "gnmc list" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Monday, September 16, 2013, 11:59 PM
94 ford lariat f150...what a
gas burning gutless pos
made the mistake again 2010 ford hdavidson. f150...same as
above...never again
> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:00:23 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
>
> Ken,
>
> Lessee -
>
> Which US auto manufacturer adapted the assembly line to
auto manufacture first?
>
> Which US auto manufacturer raised their workers salary
so they could afford to by one of the autos they were
building?
>
> Which US auto manufacturer won LeMans three years
running taking positions 1-2-3?
>
> Which US auto manufacturer has never received any loans
or bailouts from the US Government?
>
> I'll give you a hint - the name starts with an F and
ends with a D. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org]
On Behalf Of Ken Burton
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:20 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
>
>
>
> WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 14 September 2013 19:18
> > I have a Ford in my garage that I have owned for
43 years.
> > Dan
>
>
>
> That is where Fords belong. Either in the garage, or in
the junk Yard.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222827 is a reply to message #222794] |
Tue, 17 September 2013 10:25 |
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You know the old saying old fords never die they just go faster. May have a GM or Chrysler motor though.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222860 is a reply to message #222794] |
Tue, 17 September 2013 17:35 |
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yea, I had a 91 ranger...great little truck...had other ford vehicles....my point i was making is that mueller's 4 point statement about ford needed challenging....gm made some pos no doubt...ford is not the holy grail of auto engineering.....brian 77 ele 455
> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:38:50 -0700
> From: jhbridges@ymail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
>
> You needed a proper pickup - I had a 150 ('81) with a 300 six and the shifter in the floor. Ran it for 500k + miles and sold it to a local guy for $200 last year when the roof finally rusted through and rain fell in on me. A/C was still blowing cold when I sold it, albeit cycling. I put one transmission and two engines init in that period.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
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> On Mon, 9/16/13, Brian Waddell <sperline1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
> To: "gnmc list" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Date: Monday, September 16, 2013, 11:59 PM
>
> 94 ford lariat f150...what a
> gas burning gutless pos
>
> made the mistake again 2010 ford hdavidson. f150...same as
> above...never again
>
>
> > From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:00:23 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Lessee -
> >
> > Which US auto manufacturer adapted the assembly line to
> auto manufacture first?
> >
> > Which US auto manufacturer raised their workers salary
> so they could afford to by one of the autos they were
> building?
> >
> > Which US auto manufacturer won LeMans three years
> running taking positions 1-2-3?
> >
> > Which US auto manufacturer has never received any loans
> or bailouts from the US Government?
> >
> > I'll give you a hint - the name starts with an F and
> ends with a D. ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Ken Burton
> > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:20 AM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
> >
> >
> >
> > WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 14 September 2013 19:18
> > > I have a Ford in my garage that I have owned for
> 43 years.
> > > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > That is where Fords belong. Either in the garage, or in
> the junk Yard.
> > --
> > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] swap [message #222919 is a reply to message #222860] |
Tue, 17 September 2013 21:36 |
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Brian,
You challenged the four points but, with all due respect, using an irrelevant point; please explain which of the four points I
raised does the fact that you had two pos Ford trucks address?
Would you say your pos Ford truck was worse than the pos Vega?
Bottom line I'd say EVERY carmaker has produced bad cars.
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Brian Waddell
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] swap
yea, I had a 91 ranger...great little truck...had other ford vehicles....my point i was making is that mueller's 4 point statement
about ford needed challenging....gm made some pos no doubt...ford is not the holy grail of auto engineering.....brian 77 ele 455
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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