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| RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222691] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 12:56  |
kerry pinkerton
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Opened up the box and see this on the spool.
RG 58C/U
Mil-C-17D Amend 1
1000'
Nom Charac
Impedance 50 ohm
Keep ends sealed
I'm bringing it to Branson. The box is filthy so I'm not bringing the box...just the spool. Someone make me an offer.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222700 is a reply to message #222691] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 13:48  |
emerystora
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Kerry
Look on the cable to see if any number is stenciled on it. It might be different from the box.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
RG-58/U is a type of coaxial cable often used for low-power signal and RF connections. The cable has a characteristic impedance of either 50 or 52 Ω. "RG" was originally a unit indicator for bulk RF cable in the U.S. military's Joint Electronics Type Designation System. There are several versions covering the differences in core material (solid or braided wire) and shield (70% to 95% coverage).
The outside diameter of RG-58 is around 0.2 inches (5 mm). RG-58 weighs around 0.025 lbs/ft (37 g/m), exhibits approximately 25 pF/ft (82 pF/m) capacitance and can tolerate a maximum of 300 V potential (1800 W).[1] Plain RG-58 cable has a solid center conductor. The RG-58A/U features a flexible 7 or 19 strand center conductor.
Most two-way radio communication systems, such as marine, CB radio, amateur, police, fire, WLAN antennas etc., are designed to work with a 50 Ω cable.
Emery Stora
On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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> Opened up the box and see this on the spool.
>
> RG 58C/U
> Mil-C-17D Amend 1
> 1000'
>
> Nom Charac
> Impedance 50 ohm
> Keep ends sealed
>
> I'm bringing it to Branson. The box is filthy so I'm not bringing the box...just the spool. Someone make me an offer.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222707 is a reply to message #222700] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 14:30 |
powerjon
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The cable of choice for TV service now and the last 8 to 10 years with digital signals is RG-6U. The RG-59U was the cable of choice for the cable companies before that and is still sold by some stores. I used a 1000 foot spool of RG-6U when I did the new house. I had called the cable company (Charter Cable) and asked which one to use. They told me that they had phased out the use of RG-59U and were replacing it when upgrading service to new subscribers. Too much signal loss with the new digital signals for cable service.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> Kerry
> Look on the cable to see if any number is stenciled on it. It might be different from the box.
>
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> RG-58/U is a type of coaxial cable often used for low-power signal and RF connections. The cable has a characteristic impedance of either 50 or 52 Ω. "RG" was originally a unit indicator for bulk RF cable in the U.S. military's Joint Electronics Type Designation System. There are several versions covering the differences in core material (solid or braided wire) and shield (70% to 95% coverage).
> The outside diameter of RG-58 is around 0.2 inches (5 mm). RG-58 weighs around 0.025 lbs/ft (37 g/m), exhibits approximately 25 pF/ft (82 pF/m) capacitance and can tolerate a maximum of 300 V potential (1800 W).[1] Plain RG-58 cable has a solid center conductor. The RG-58A/U features a flexible 7 or 19 strand center conductor.
> Most two-way radio communication systems, such as marine, CB radio, amateur, police, fire, WLAN antennas etc., are designed to work with a 50 Ω cable.
> Emery Stora
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> On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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>> Opened up the box and see this on the spool.
>>
>> RG 58C/U
>> Mil-C-17D Amend 1
>> 1000'
>>
>> Nom Charac
>> Impedance 50 ohm
>> Keep ends sealed
>>
>> I'm bringing it to Branson. The box is filthy so I'm not bringing the box...just the spool. Someone make me an offer.
>> --
>> Kerry Pinkerton
>>
>> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>>
>> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222734 is a reply to message #222691] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 17:51 |
jhbridges
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$660 a thousand if it's Belden and Allied is selling it. $300 would be a fair price for American made, 200 from the Heathen Chinee.
--johnny
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On Mon, 9/16/13, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:
Subject: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Monday, September 16, 2013, 5:56 PM
Opened up the box and see this on the spool.
RG 58C/U
Mil-C-17D Amend 1
1000'
Nom Charac
Impedance 50 ohm
Keep ends sealed
I'm bringing it to Branson. The box is filthy so I'm
not bringing the box...just the spool. Someone make me
an offer.
--
Kerry Pinkerton
North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being
re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222736 is a reply to message #222707] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 18:05 |
jhbridges
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We used to use miles of RG-59 in television plants when everything was NTSC. You wanted everything to be the same length so all the video stayed in sync. It was considered Bad Form to have the picture roll once when you switched sourcers.
--johnny
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On Mon, 9/16/13, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Monday, September 16, 2013, 7:30 PM
The cable of choice for TV service
now and the last 8 to 10 years with digital signals is
RG-6U. The RG-59U was the cable of choice for
the cable companies before that and is still sold by some
stores. I used a 1000 foot spool of RG-6U when I did
the new house. I had called the cable company (Charter
Cable) and asked which one to use. They told me that
they had phased out the use of RG-59U and were replacing it
when upgrading service to new subscribers. Too much
signal loss with the new digital signals for cable service.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com>
wrote:
> Kerry
> Look on the cable to see if any number is stenciled on
it. It might be different from the box.
>
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> RG-58/U is a type of coaxial cable often used for
low-power signal and RF connections. The cable has a
characteristic impedance of either 50 or 52 Ω. "RG" was
originally a unit indicator for bulk RF cable in the U.S.
military's Joint Electronics Type Designation System. There
are several versions covering the differences in core
material (solid or braided wire) and shield (70% to 95%
coverage).
> The outside diameter of RG-58 is around 0.2 inches (5
mm). RG-58 weighs around 0.025 lbs/ft (37 g/m), exhibits
approximately 25 pF/ft (82 pF/m) capacitance and can
tolerate a maximum of 300 V potential (1800 W).[1] Plain
RG-58 cable has a solid center conductor. The RG-58A/U
features a flexible 7 or 19 strand center conductor.
> Most two-way radio communication systems, such as
marine, CB radio, amateur, police, fire, WLAN antennas etc.,
are designed to work with a 50 Ω cable.
> Emery Stora
>
> On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Opened up the box and see this on the spool.
>>
>> RG 58C/U
>> Mil-C-17D Amend 1
>> 1000'
>>
>> Nom Charac
>> Impedance 50 ohm
>> Keep ends sealed
>>
>> I'm bringing it to Branson. The box is filthy
so I'm not bringing the box...just the spool. Someone
make me an offer.
>> --
>> Kerry Pinkerton
>>
>> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>>
>> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76
Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
>> _______________________________________________
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Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222746 is a reply to message #222734] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 18:54 |
k2gkk
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But at 40+ years of age, its original cost was probably around 15 cents per foot.
The offer I made is based upon that. If it's not Belden or Amphenol and actually RG-58C/U, I don't want it.
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> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:51:10 -0700
> From: jhbridges@ymail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out
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> $660 a thousand if it's Belden and Allied is selling it. $300 would be a fair price for American made, 200 from the Heathen Chinee.
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> --johnny
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> On Mon, 9/16/13, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:
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> Subject: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Monday, September 16, 2013, 5:56 PM
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>
>
> Opened up the box and see this on the spool.
>
> RG 58C/U
> Mil-C-17D Amend 1
> 1000'
>
> Nom Charac
> Impedance 50 ohm
> Keep ends sealed
>
> I'm bringing it to Branson. The box is filthy so I'm
> not bringing the box...just the spool. Someone make me
> an offer.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being
> re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222770 is a reply to message #222746] |
Mon, 16 September 2013 21:31 |
Ken Burton
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There is a lot of RG-58 junk out there. It is high loss and only usable for short runs or low frequencies. A lot of it was also thin shielded and again only usable for lower frequencies. The only place I see it used any more is for short runs in mobile 2-way and CB antennas. Some one might want a short piece of it for a Chicken Band antenna lead.
Sorry but it is not worth much.
You might try braiding several lengths of it together and making an emergency tow rope out of it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222792 is a reply to message #222789] |
Tue, 17 September 2013 06:59 |
Jim Miller
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On Sep 17, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
> I was just trying to think of some use for an otherwise almost useless length of co-ax.
A spool of junk coax like 58 or 59 makes a great dummy load at microwave frequencies. You don't even have to terminate the far end in an absorber as the small amount of power that makes it that far will be reflected and lost in the dielectric before it gets back to the source.
--Jim Miller
1977 Eleganza II
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
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| Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out [message #222793 is a reply to message #222746] |
Tue, 17 September 2013 07:35 |
jhbridges
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It's worth what you - or someone will pay for it :) If it truly is Mil spec it's likely worth 10 - 15 cents a foot. If it's silver double braided (I wish) I'd give him 60 cents a foot for it ina minute.
--johnny
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On Mon, 9/16/13, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out
To: "GMC Mail List" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Monday, September 16, 2013, 11:54 PM
But at 40+ years of age, its original
cost was probably around 15 cents per foot.
The offer I made is based upon that. If it's not
Belden or Amphenol and actually RG-58C/U, I don't want it.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:51:10 -0700
> From: jhbridges@ymail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out
>
> $660 a thousand if it's Belden and Allied is selling
it. $300 would be a fair price for American made, 200 from
the Heathen Chinee.
>
> --johnny
>
>
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> On Mon, 9/16/13, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject: [GMCnet] RG58 C/U as it turns out
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Monday, September 16, 2013, 5:56 PM
>
>
>
> Opened up the box and see this on the spool.
>
> RG 58C/U
> Mil-C-17D Amend 1
> 1000'
>
> Nom Charac
> Impedance 50 ohm
> Keep ends sealed
>
> I'm bringing it to Branson. The box is filthy so
I'm
> not bringing the box...just the spool. Someone
make me
> an offer.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza
being
> re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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