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Problem with a CCV grease gun. [message #222188] Thu, 12 September 2013 20:15 Go to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Situation:
Cheap Chinese grease guns don't use a keyhole slot to hold the follower puller anymore, they use a toggle plate like a screen door holder.

Problem:
Once you coat that bar on the follower puller with real good moly loaded grease, the toggle won't hold it again.

Story:
I loaded my new HF grease gun with Valvoline SynPower. It wouldn't prime. So, I decided to do what I have rarely had to do in the past and pack the piston so it would prime. When I tried to pull the follower back, it would not lock back. After some strange rigging and contortions, I managed to get my 7$ grease cartridge out of the POS and and packed it up to go back.

Back story:
Our successful GMC season has had some interesting side effects. Like when you put three or four times more mileage on the coach than you have in most prior years, you have to do more maintenance. This means greasing it a lot. Well.

I decided to get another grease gun. I thought about air powered, but I don't like them because you can't tell if grease is actually going in, they just keep chuffing...

But I wanted a flexible nose with pistol grip to make greasing the famous 14 fittings in the front of a GMC less stressful. So I shopped and found that everybody - Except Lincoln - sell grease guns off the same Chinese tooling. So, I went with HF. After the above greased gun wrestling match. I went and spent the big bucks (1/4 of a fuel fill) on the Lincoln. The Lincoln number says it is made in India with Lincoln quality control. It works, but I won't know just how well until tomorrow or Saturday.

I will append this thread.

Matt


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Re: Problem with a CCV grease gun. [message #222193 is a reply to message #222188] Thu, 12 September 2013 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Otterwan   United States
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Juat bought this one. Very pleased.

Lincoln Lubrication 1134 Heavy Duty Pistol Grip Grease Gun with Whip Hose and Rigid Pipe

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002NYDZ8/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As noted in several of the ratings you do need to loosen the barrel, and it is really tight. Once you get it loose, it works great on any fitting, and if it gets stuck, just loosen the barrel a bit and it comes right off.


1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: Problem with a CCV grease gun. [message #222209 is a reply to message #222188] Thu, 12 September 2013 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Snap-on YA733A seams like the best bet. Grease gun faux pas are always a mess especially with Synpower

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: Problem with a CCV grease gun. [message #222221 is a reply to message #222188] Thu, 12 September 2013 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 12 September 2013 21:15

Situation:
Cheap Chinese grease guns don't use a keyhole slot to hold the follower puller anymore, they use a toggle plate like a screen door holder.

Problem:
Once you coat that bar on the follower puller with real good moly loaded grease, the toggle won't hold it again.

Story:
I loaded my new HF grease gun with Valvoline SynPower. It wouldn't prime. So, I decided to do what I have rarely had to do in the past and pack the piston so it would prime. When I tried to pull the follower back, it would not lock back. After some strange rigging and contortions, I managed to get my 7$ grease cartridge out of the POS and and packed it up to go back.

Back story:
Our successful GMC season has had some interesting side effects. Like when you put three or four times more mileage on the coach than you have in most prior years, you have to do more maintenance. This means greasing it a lot. Well.

I decided to get another grease gun. I thought about air powered, but I don't like them because you can't tell if grease is actually going in, they just keep chuffing...

But I wanted a flexible nose with pistol grip to make greasing the famous 14 fittings in the front of a GMC less stressful. So I shopped and found that everybody - Except Lincoln - sell grease guns off the same Chinese tooling. So, I went with HF. After the above greased gun wrestling match. I went and spent the big bucks (1/4 of a fuel fill) on the Lincoln. The Lincoln number says it is made in India with Lincoln quality control. It works, but I won't know just how well until tomorrow or Saturday.

I will append this thread.

Matt


Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I could have stopped by with my good flexible hose grease gun. I needed some steel for the Hot Rods and went right by your place today on my way to/from Van Buren Steel.


Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan
Re: [GMCnet] Problem with a CCV grease gun. [message #222243 is a reply to message #222188] Fri, 13 September 2013 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got one of those. Mine has a small notch filed in the rod where the toggle plate grips it. Works great. Ten mionutes with a small file. Caveat: I suspect of you side load the rod somehow, it would fail rightr at the notch. I also got a cheeeep TSC one that still has the keyhole.

--johnny


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On Fri, 9/13/13, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: [GMCnet] Problem with a CCV grease gun.
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Friday, September 13, 2013, 1:15 AM



Situation:
Cheap Chinese grease guns don't use a keyhole slot to hold
the follower puller anymore, they use a toggle plate like a
screen door holder. 

Problem:
Once you coat that bar on the follower puller with real good
moly loaded grease, the toggle won't hold it again. 

Story:
I loaded my new HF grease gun with Valvoline SynPower. 
It wouldn't prime.  So, I decided to do what I have
rarely had to do in the past and pack the piston so it would
prime.  When I tried to pull the follower back, it
would not lock back.  After some strange rigging and
contortions, I managed to get my 7$ grease cartridge out of
the POS and and packed it up to go back.   

Back story:
Our successful GMC season has had some interesting side
effects.  Like when you put three or four times more
mileage on the coach than you have in most prior years, you
have to do more maintenance.  This means greasing it a
lot.  Well.

I decided to get another grease gun.  I thought about
air powered, but I don't like them because you can't tell if
grease is actually going in, they just keep
chuffing... 

But I wanted a flexible nose with pistol grip to make
greasing the famous 14 fittings in the front of a GMC less
stressful.  So I shopped and found that everybody -
Except Lincoln - sell grease guns off the same Chinese
tooling.  So, I went with HF.  After the above
greased gun wrestling match.  I went and spent the big
bucks (1/4 of a fuel fill) on the Lincoln.  The Lincoln
number says it is made in India with Lincoln quality
control.  It works, but I won't know just how well
until tomorrow or Saturday. 

I will append this thread. 

Matt
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Now with 4 working Rear Brakes
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Re: Problem with a CCV grease gun. [message #222263 is a reply to message #222221] Fri, 13 September 2013 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GMC Cruse wrote on Fri, 13 September 2013 00:28


Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I could have stopped by with my good flexible hose grease gun. I needed some steel for the Hot Rods and went right by your place today on my way to/from Van Buren Steel.

Mike,

I appreciate the offer.
As it happens, I don't mind spending money on good tools.

Next time you go by, stop long enough for a cup or something. I finally got good pictures of my new fuel system (thank you) this last work rally at Hamilton. You might like to see what your good flaring tool did.

Matt


Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Re: Problem with a CCV grease gun. [message #222319 is a reply to message #222188] Fri, 13 September 2013 18:33 Go to previous message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 12 September 2013 21:15

Situation:
Cheap Chinese grease guns don't use a keyhole slot to hold the follower puller anymore, they use a toggle plate like a screen door holder.

Problem:
Once you coat that bar on the follower puller with real good moly loaded grease, the toggle won't hold it again.

Story:
I loaded my new HF grease gun with Valvoline SynPower. It wouldn't prime. So, I decided to do what I have rarely had to do in the past and pack the piston so it would prime. When I tried to pull the follower back, it would not lock back. After some strange rigging and contortions, I managed to get my 7$ grease cartridge out of the POS and and packed it up to go back.

Back story:
Our successful GMC season has had some interesting side effects. Like when you put three or four times more mileage on the coach than you have in most prior years, you have to do more maintenance. This means greasing it a lot. Well.

I decided to get another grease gun. I thought about air powered, but I don't like them because you can't tell if grease is actually going in, they just keep chuffing...

But I wanted a flexible nose with pistol grip to make greasing the famous 14 fittings in the front of a GMC less stressful. So I shopped and found that everybody - Except Lincoln - sell grease guns off the same Chinese tooling. So, I went with HF. After the above greased gun wrestling match. I went and spent the big bucks (1/4 of a fuel fill) on the Lincoln. The Lincoln number says it is made in India with Lincoln quality control. It works, but I won't know just how well until tomorrow or Saturday.

I will append this thread.

Matt

The as-promised append.

I spent less than an half an hour hitting all 14 grease points on the coaches front end. My biggest fight was with the fluorescent worklight. That hasn't changed, but it is usually a bad third.

The Lincoln 1133 is a great grease gun. Things that took three pumps with the old straight nose Lincoln, took about five. The coupler is a little touchy about being straight on the zerk or it leeks, but it stays on. And with one had to hold it and one to pump, it is a far less stressful job than in the past.

Matt - Still trying to over grease the old thing.


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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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