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[GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221362] Fri, 06 September 2013 17:04 Go to next message
Betty Chimento is currently offline  Betty Chimento   United States
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Recently purchased GMC. Generator will start but no power. PO said rodents chewed wires. We took it to RV shop. They said someone had tried rewire by bypassing the control board. RV shop said control board was bad. They called Onan who could get a refurbished board for $800+ labor. But then we don't know if other parts may be needed after purchasing the board. Could our board be refurbished at a better price?

Would it be better to put the money toward a new one ( prefer not)? I've read about new one not fitting the compartment.

We were hoping to have the generator for our trip to Branson since our dash stopped cooling. But we realize this isn't going to happen now. The best we can hope for is later down the road.

Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.

Betty & Bill Chimento
Diamondhead, Ms
78 Eleganza

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221366 is a reply to message #221362] Fri, 06 September 2013 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Betty Chimento wrote on Fri, 06 September 2013 17:04

Recently purchased GMC. Generator will start but no power. PO said rodents chewed wires. We took it to RV shop. They said someone had tried rewire by bypassing the control board. RV shop said control board was bad. They called Onan who could get a refurbished board for $800+ labor. But then we don't know if other parts may be needed after purchasing the board. Could our board be refurbished at a better price?

Would it be better to put the money toward a new one ( prefer not)? I've read about new one not fitting the compartment.

We were hoping to have the generator for our trip to Branson since our dash stopped cooling. But we realize this isn't going to happen now. The best we can hope for is later down the road.

Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.

Betty & Bill Chimento
Diamondhead, Ms
78 Eleganza




If you have an original Onan -- the control board is available from Jim at Applied for under $150.

http://appliedgmc.com/level.itml/icOid/487

If you can stand the heat to drive to Branson without ac -- you might arrange in advance to have some one there help you and Jim could bring the parts.

Can you post photos of what you have --

Dennis


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221372 is a reply to message #221366] Fri, 06 September 2013 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robin Hood is currently offline  Robin Hood   United States
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I'm willing to help! I recently nursed my Onan back to life in a series of
critically panned YouTube videos. :)

If the generator is running, it's almost certainly making power, unless you
have a very particular type of problem. Furthermore, the control board has
nothing to do with the electricity that comes out of the generator. All the
control board does... Well it does a few things, but it doesn't have
anything to do with the AC electrical power.

On Friday, September 6, 2013, Dennis Sexton wrote:

>
>
> Betty Chimento wrote on Fri, 06 September 2013 17:04
> > Recently purchased GMC. Generator will start but no power. PO said
> rodents chewed wires. We took it to RV shop. They said someone had tried
> rewire by bypassing the control board. RV shop said control board was bad.
> They called Onan who could get a refurbished board for $800+ labor. But
> then we don't know if other parts may be needed after purchasing the board.
> Could our board be refurbished at a better price?
> >
> > Would it be better to put the money toward a new one ( prefer not)?
> I've read about new one not fitting the compartment.
> >
> > We were hoping to have the generator for our trip to Branson since our
> dash stopped cooling. But we realize this isn't going to happen now. The
> best we can hope for is later down the road.
> >
> > Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.
> >
> > Betty & Bill Chimento
> > Diamondhead, Ms
> > 78 Eleganza
>
>
> If you have an original Onan -- the control board is available from Jim at
> Applied for under $150.
>
> http://appliedgmc.com/level.itml/icOid/487
>
> If you can stand the heat to drive to Branson without ac -- you might
> arrange in advance to have some one there help you and Jim could bring the
> parts.
>
> Can you post photos of what you have --
>
> Dennis
> --
> Dennis S
> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Germantown, TN
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221377 is a reply to message #221362] Fri, 06 September 2013 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Betty & Bill

The control board does nothing for the power (120 volts) output of the Onan

The control is only related to the starting and running of the Onan

If your Onan is running and you don't have power it is either the circuit breaker at the topo center of the Onan or the bridge rectifier or something in the generating section of the Onan. Easy for someone to check for you.

Stay away from that shop that wanted $800 for a control board. That is a major rip off.

If you are coming to Branson some of us can possibly help you get it working.

Emery Stora

On Sep 6, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Betty Chimento <bchimento@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Recently purchased GMC. Generator will start but no power. PO said rodents chewed wires. We took it to RV shop. They said someone had tried rewire by bypassing the control board. RV shop said control board was bad. They called Onan who could get a refurbished board for $800+ labor. But then we don't know if other parts may be needed after purchasing the board. Could our board be refurbished at a better price?
>
> Would it be better to put the money toward a new one ( prefer not)? I've read about new one not fitting the compartment.
>
> We were hoping to have the generator for our trip to Branson since our dash stopped cooling. But we realize this isn't going to happen now. The best we can hope for is later down the road.
>
> Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.
>
> Betty & Bill Chimento
> Diamondhead, Ms
> 78 Eleganza
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221378 is a reply to message #221372] Fri, 06 September 2013 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Describe "dash stopped cooling.". You may just need a recharge of coolant.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221380 is a reply to message #221362] Fri, 06 September 2013 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Betty Chimento wrote on Fri, 06 September 2013 17:04

Recently purchased GMC. Generator will start but no power. PO said rodents chewed wires. We took it to RV shop. They said someone had tried rewire by bypassing the control board. RV shop said control board was bad.
That has nothing to do with it not producing AC power.
Quote:

They called Onan who could get a refurbished board for $800+ labor. But then we don't know if other parts may be needed after purchasing the board. Could our board be refurbished at a better price?
Johnny Bridges can take a look at it for the price of postage to get it to him and back. Anyway, another reply tells you that Applied GMC is the source for a new one.
Quote:

Would it be better to put the money toward a new one ( prefer not)? I've read about new one not fitting the compartment.
There is no direct replacement. Putting something else in the compartment is a big job.
Quote:

We were hoping to have the generator for our trip to Branson since our dash stopped cooling. But we realize this isn't going to happen now. The best we can hope for is later down the road.
Any automotive AC shop can get your dash air working. But to get back to the Onan, I understand the most common failure when it is not producing AC power is the bridge rectifier. You can get one here: http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/974
The "modification" is to twist one or two of the connectors so they fit in the old socket.

No matter what, the Maintenance Manual has detailed repair procedures for the Onan. Get one for your Onan here: http://www.bdub.net/manuals/

The Maintenance Manual for the motorhome itself has a comprehensive troubleshooting procedure for the Onan. That procedure is probably the same for all years. Get a manual here:

http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html
Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221388 is a reply to message #221380] Fri, 06 September 2013 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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As you have heard, don't pay that rv shop. Get yourself to Branson. Lots of Onan guys will be there and can tell you exactly what is wrong. If the control board has truly been messed with, you might want to buy a new one at the convention. That won't make it put out power but will prevent future problems with starting and running.
Will be good to meet y'all there.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221393 is a reply to message #221362] Fri, 06 September 2013 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All the control board does is manage the engine - doesn't affect power output at all. If the engine runs, your problem ain't the control board.

--johnny
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On Fri, 9/6/13, Betty Chimento <bchimento@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Subject: [GMCnet] Onan Help
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Friday, September 6, 2013, 10:04 PM

Recently purchased GMC. 
Generator will start but no power.  PO said rodents
chewed wires.  We took it to RV shop. They said someone
had tried rewire by bypassing the control board.  RV
shop said control board was bad.  They called Onan who
could get a refurbished board for $800+ labor. But then we
don't know if other parts may be needed after purchasing the
board.  Could our board be refurbished at a better
price?

Would it be better to put the money toward a new one (
prefer not)?  I've read about new one not fitting the
compartment.

We were hoping to have the generator for our trip to Branson
since our dash stopped cooling.  But we realize this
isn't going to happen now. The best we can hope for is later
down the road.

Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.

Betty & Bill Chimento
Diamondhead, Ms
78 Eleganza

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Help [message #221454 is a reply to message #221362] Sat, 07 September 2013 08:10 Go to previous message
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Betty,

I would suggest you consider having a shop that specializes in auto air conditioning troubleshoot the dash air conditioning and give
you a quote to repair it before I would let the RV shop mess with the Onan.

The reason being the air conditioning system is similar to many other systems and if you bring the shop your manuals they can use
them to study any differences.

After they troubleshoot the dash air let "us" know what they say the problem is and we'll review their findings.

I have three spare Onan boards, a spare coil, spare points, condenser, fuel pump etc. and I could see if I can fix it at the GMCMI
Convention.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Chimento

Recently purchased GMC. Generator will start but no power. PO said rodents chewed wires. We took it to RV shop. They said someone
had tried rewire by bypassing the control board. RV shop said control board was bad. They called Onan who could get a refurbished
board for $800+ labor. But then we don't know if other parts may be needed after purchasing the board. Could our board be
refurbished at a better price?

Would it be better to put the money toward a new one ( prefer not)? I've read about new one not fitting the compartment.

We were hoping to have the generator for our trip to Branson since our dash stopped cooling. But we realize this isn't going to
happen now. The best we can hope for is later down the road.

Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.

Betty & Bill Chimento

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