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Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221143] Wed, 04 September 2013 14:47 Go to next message
Francois is currently offline  Francois   United States
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Yep, after months of trepidation, I finally had to get around to getting my 78 Royale smogged. For people who may not know, in California, it's nearly impossible to beat the test. You can't pay the guy off. It's all done internally in a computer analyzer that is hooked into the state Motor Vehicles Dept. The guy doing the test doesn't even know whether or not you passed until the final printout.

One advantage of the test is it gives you a number of measures of useful information - CO, hydrocarbons, at different rpms. Anyway, turns out my 403 is pretty strong and the smog numbers look like I can get past the next time or two at the smog test center.

So now that I know I am in good shape, I ordered a dash instrument panel with a whole bunch of gauges. Really, the only thing preventing me from going on a nice long trip is not knowing what my drive train is doing. Well soon I'll know.

I'm happy
Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221146 is a reply to message #221143] Wed, 04 September 2013 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Best News Ever!!! Scan that printout and post. I do not know how this is even possible at all with out a Cat even on there from the beginning.

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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221149 is a reply to message #221143] Wed, 04 September 2013 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just an FYI.. The only way to fool the Ca emmisions is.... Take of a spark plug wire and limp in for inspection.It will fail. Come back in a week with the wire hooked up and a couple old service reciepts for new plugs. Run it through,should pass... if it still fails but shows a certain percentage of improvement from the first test they still pass you. I only lived in LA for a few years but,it is not easy unless you get into something Valid pre-1972 Cali says 1975 but the banks and dealers all say 1972.
Anything older than 1964 is too old.


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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221150 is a reply to message #221143] Wed, 04 September 2013 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I'm not that good at scanning and posting, but I will grab my smog printout and post the numbers by just writing them down. That will be tomorrow.

As far as how it passed without a catalytic converter, I'm not sure, but I know it doesn't have one When I bought it, I had a new exhaust put in - headers, single muffler, three inch tailpipe,
Re: [GMCnet] Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221154 is a reply to message #221150] Wed, 04 September 2013 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The GMC motorhome never had a catalytic converter so you would not have to have one for the smog test.

Emery Stora

On Sep 4, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Sigmund Frankenfelter wrote:

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> Well I'm not that good at scanning and posting, but I will grab my smog printout and post the numbers by just writing them down. That will be tomorrow.
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> As far as how it passed without a catalytic converter, I'm not sure, but I know it doesn't have one When I bought it, I had a new exhaust put in - headers, single muffler, three inch tailpipe,
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Re: [GMCnet] Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221155 is a reply to message #221154] Wed, 04 September 2013 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The smog test should be easy, and while you cannot cheat on anything with
an ODBC-II plug, on the gmc, you could hook anything up, and claim it was
your motorhome to the smog test equipment. You can be something like 2x
worse than was permitted, and your coach was probably half the original
spec when new, so you can be 4x as bad. If you have an issue with passing
smog, you should get that fixed, your milage will probably get noticeably
better.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

> The GMC motorhome never had a catalytic converter so you would not have to
> have one for the smog test.
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> On Sep 4, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Sigmund Frankenfelter wrote:
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> > Well I'm not that good at scanning and posting, but I will grab my smog
> printout and post the numbers by just writing them down. That will be
> tomorrow.
> >
> > As far as how it passed without a catalytic converter, I'm not sure, but
> I know it doesn't have one When I bought it, I had a new exhaust put in -
> headers, single muffler, three inch tailpipe,
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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221156 is a reply to message #221143] Wed, 04 September 2013 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Really, CA smog is no big deal. You are only expected to have the original equipment, so no expectations of catalytic converter, etc. I haven't met any operators that look very hard during the visual. If it doesn't pass, there's an engine issue that needs attention before you'd want to drive it very far anyway.

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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221160 is a reply to message #221143] Wed, 04 September 2013 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know the GMC has no Cat or a restictor in the filler neck for "Unleaded Fuel Only"

So how I wonder do they determine emmisions?The other way to beat them is the $15 per gallon gas at 110 octane. Burns clean with no corn and such.


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Re: [GMCnet] Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221161 is a reply to message #221160] Wed, 04 September 2013 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They sniff your tail pipe for carbon monoxide, partially burned
hydrocarbons, and perhaps NO2 (not that you should be putting that out at
idle). Smog.


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> I know the GMC has no Cat or a restictor in the filler neck for "Unleaded
> Fuel Only"
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> So how I wonder do they determine emmisions?The other way to beat them is
> the $15 per gallon gas at 110 octane. Burns clean with no corn and such.
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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221263 is a reply to message #221143] Thu, 05 September 2013 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AZ puts you on the dyno. After you win the argument about it being FWD, of course. Surprised

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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221302 is a reply to message #221143] Fri, 06 September 2013 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whats the deal with the dyno and FWD? When my car goes in for dyno tests,they just strap it down backwards and let her fly.Most all the stupid cars people drive today are FWD,transverse little motors but FWD still.

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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221356 is a reply to message #221143] Fri, 06 September 2013 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Arizona demands yearly emissions checks for all motorhomes, but most are not FWD.

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Re: Passed Cal. Smog and ordered cool instrument panel [message #221363 is a reply to message #221263] Fri, 06 September 2013 17:07 Go to previous message
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Luvn737s wrote on Thu, 05 September 2013 18:28

AZ puts you on the dyno. After you win the argument about it being FWD, of course. Surprised



Tucson's tests are not as stringent as Maricopa County's, for older vehicles. I have not had to run mine on the rollers. If it passes the idle test, it's been good to go.


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