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| KISS Emergency Parking Brake and multitool Version 2.0 [message #220732] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 07:52  |
kerry pinkerton
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Location: Harvest, Al
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I just can't seem to leave well enough alone. Made some upgrades and enhancements to the KISS Emergency Parking Brake system.
- A die spring will keep constant pressure on the pedal if the pedal settles during use.
- A knob allows the pressure to be adjusted
- A spring keeps the two claws at maximum distance for ease of hooking into the eyebolt and brake pedal.
Other enhancements to be described later.
Photos in here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6433-kiss-parking-brake.html
FIRST OFF...I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING TO BE USED FOR A SHORT TIME. It is basically a remote extension of your leg holding the brake down or a mechanical 6 wheel line lock. I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING YOU'D USE WHILE MAKING OTHER ARRANGEMENTS.
PERSONALLY, I'M NOT GOING TO GET BEHIND ANY UNBLOCKED COACH WITH ANYONE'S PARKING BRAKE ON ANY SIGNIFICANT SLOPE. The question is, how do you block your coach if you have to hold the brakes on and you're alone???
I'M NOT SELLING THEM. I don't care if anyone builds this or one of the more simple versions. I'm not recommending that anyone use one. If your brake system is iffy, extended pressure on the pedal could cause leaks and failure. If your brake system is brand new, failures can still occur when the pedal is depressed for this or any reason.  
Below is a photo of the original V1.0 and the new V2.0
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0012.jpg
Considerable less KISS that V1.0.
Here is the business end:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0022.jpg
And the component parts:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m2.jpg
The 5/15" eyebolt on the floor goes through the inside lower steering column bolt hole:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0181.jpg
You can see the main hook is made from a piece of 3/8 all thread. The upper hook is welded to a piece of tube with a 3/8 ID. There is another rod (just a piece of 1/4 steel rod) that slides through a bracket on the upper slider that keeps the two hooks oriented for ease of use. A small spring on it pushes it up against the adjuster. The adjuster is simply a 1/2" tube with a 3/8 nut welded on one end and a knob on the other. It screws down the main hook and compresses the die spring. The die spring is compressed when the knob is rotated and this spring keeps constant pressure on the brake pedal if it should sink for any reason.
To use, first depress the brake pedal, then put the top hook on the brake pedal arm, push down on the knob and rotate the bottom hook into the eyebolt on the floor. Then screw the knob down until you are satisfied it is tight enough. To remove, unscrew the knob a few turns while pressing the brake pedal and simply unhook it.
Rob Mueller and Helen found a few other uses for it.
Tripping the handle on his awning:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0041.jpg
Pulling the awnings out:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0062.jpg
And as a personal defense tool that should be legal in all 50 states and Canada:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0051.jpg
Enraged semi Aussie not included... 
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: KISS Emergency Parking Brake and multitool Version 2.0 [message #220746 is a reply to message #220732] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 11:36  |
Adrien G.
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Burns Flat, OK 73624
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Kerry,
BINGO. You've improved it into a multipurpose tool/secret weapon that we all need, for stock or upgrade brakes system. One person alone can set the brakes and put the chokes in place.
Although, some person may prefer an exchangeble golf club heads instead of a knob, for a quick round.
Very good job.
>>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6433-kiss-parking-brake.html <<<<<
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: [GMCnet] KISS Emergency Parking Brake and multitool Version 2.0 and multitool [message #220763 is a reply to message #220732] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 15:02 |
mickeysss
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Registered: January 2012
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harry potter wand.
M. CA pb77
I want one, where do i send the money?
if possible.
caduceus of the gmc.
On Sep 1, 2013, at 5:53 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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> I just can't seem to leave well enough alone. Made some upgrades and enhancements to the KISS Emergency Parking Brake system.
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> - A die spring will keep constant pressure on the pedal if the pedal settles during use.
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> - A knob allows the pressure to be adjusted
>
> - A spring keeps the two claws at maximum distance for ease of hooking into the eyebolt and brake pedal.
>
> Other enhancements to be described later.
>
> Photos in here:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6433-kiss-parking-brake.html
>
> FIRST OFF...I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING TO BE USED FOR A SHORT TIME. It is basically a remote extension of your leg holding the brake down or a mechanical 6 wheel line lock. I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING YOU'D USE WHILE MAKING OTHER ARRANGEMENTS.
>
> PERSONALLY, I'M NOT GOING TO GET BEHIND ANY UNBLOCKED COACH WITH ANYONE'S PARKING BRAKE ON ANY SIGNIFICANT SLOPE. The question is, how do you block your coach if you have to hold the brakes on and you're alone???
>
> I'M NOT SELLING THEM. I don't care if anyone builds this or one of the more simple versions. I'm not recommending that anyone use one. If your brake system is iffy, extended pressure on the pedal could cause leaks and failure. If your brake system is brand new, failures can still occur when the pedal is depressed for this or any reason. 8o :d
>
> Below is a photo of the original V1.0 and the new V2.0
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0012.jpg
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>
> Considerable less KISS that V1.0.
>
> Here is the business end:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0022.jpg
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>
> And the component parts:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m2.jpg
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>
> The 5/15" eyebolt on the floor goes through the inside lower steering column bolt hole:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0181.jpg
>
>
> You can see the main hook is made from a piece of 3/8 all thread. The upper hook is welded to a piece of tube with a 3/8 ID. There is another rod (just a piece of 1/4 steel rod) that slides through a bracket on the upper slider that keeps the two hooks oriented for ease of use. A small spring on it pushes it up against the adjuster. The adjuster is simply a 1/2" tube with a 3/8 nut welded on one end and a knob on the other. It screws down the main hook and compresses the die spring. The die spring is compressed when the knob is rotated and this spring keeps constant pressure on the brake pedal if it should sink for any reason.
>
> To use, first depress the brake pedal, then put the top hook on the brake pedal arm, push down on the knob and rotate the bottom hook into the eyebolt on the floor. Then screw the knob down until you are satisfied it is tight enough. To remove, unscrew the knob a few turns while pressing the brake pedal and simply unhook it.
>
> Rob Mueller and Nancy found a few other uses for it.
>
> Tripping the handle on his awning:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0041.jpg
>
>
> Pulling the awnings out:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0062.jpg
>
>
> And as a personal defense tool that should be legal in all 50 states and Canada:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6433/m_0051.jpg
>
>
> Enraged semi Aussie not included... :lol: :d
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] KISS Emergency Parking Brake and multitool Version 2.0 and multitool [message #220788 is a reply to message #220763] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 18:57 |
kerry pinkerton
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| mickeysss wrote on Sun, 01 September 2013 15:02 |
I want one, where do i send the money?
if possible....
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MIckey, I'm sorry but I won't be selling them. Anyone can feel free to make themselves one or even go into production but I don't want the liability issues if someone cooks their brakes.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: KISS Emergency Parking Brake and multitool Version 2.0 [message #220789 is a reply to message #220732] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 18:59 |
kerry pinkerton
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Location: Harvest, Al
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Cross post from the other thread:
Someone, I think Emery correctly stated early on that constant pressure could cause leaks. That is true but there is more.
Do NOT NOT NOT, use the screw adjuster to crank down past where you normally hold the brake to hold on whatever slope you are on. To do so put much more than normal pressure on the hydraulics. Ask me how I know this.....
Rob Mueller made one just like V2.0 and was cranking the handle down tight when he noticed the pedal went down suddenly. Didn't think much about it but later he wanted me to drive his coach and see how good the brakes were. As I was leaving my house, I said, "NO BRAKES" as I was standing on the pedal.
Turns out we literally blew one of his braided stainless brake lines out of the fittings AND KILLED the master cylinder.
Rob's brakes have been on the coach for several years but the moral of this story is that you only have to move the pedal the the same point you'd be at if you were holding the brake with your foot. Any more is just excessive pressure and BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN. In Rob's case, a STOMP ON THE BRAKES PANIC STOP could have done the same thing....or not.
The good news is that the local Advance had a new brake line (not braided) and I had a brand new P30 MC. He also had a Hupy bleeder top and we're cobbling up the rest of the pressure bleeder and they should be good to go tomorrow.
DON'T PRESS IT DOWN MORE THAN YOU WOULD WITH YOUR FOOT UNLESS YOU WANT TO TEST YOUR COMPONENTS TO POSSIBLE FAILURE.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] KISS Emergency Parking Brake and multitool Version 2.0 [message #220975 is a reply to message #220789] |
Mon, 02 September 2013 23:19 |
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USAussie
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Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
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G'day,
Point of clarification!
I did NOT blow the braided stainless steel line off the passenger side middle Caddy disk brake by screwing down the knob on Kerry's
tool; I did it by applying as much pressure as I could on the brake pedal with the engine running. I figgered I had to really stomp
on them to make sure the KISS parking brake would work correctly.
I reckon the hose failure was a good thing, had it failed in a panic stop it could have caused a disaster as I lost my brakes
completely.
However, that didn't make any sense as the fronts still should have worked. Since they didn't we R&R'd the master cylinder and took
it apart. When we removed the circlip that holds the piston in the piston wouldn't come out. Kerry cut off the protrusion that
contained the circlip as we thought the piston was getting stuck on the groove. After that was removed it still wouldn't come out.
We then removed the tank and discovered that both the check valves in the cast iron section were not installed correctly, they were
cocked. When we removed the check valve closest to the booster the rear piston came out, when we removed the check valve furthest
from the booster the front piston came out. Somehow they had shifted and were keeping the pistons from moving correctly.
This was interesting to me as John Sharpe had two P-3 master cylinders in Houston with plastic tanks that had failed and when we
disassembled them we found the same problem the check valves had shifted which kept the piston from moving properly.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 6:59 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] KISS Emergency Parking Brake and multitool Version 2.0
Cross post from the other thread:
Someone, I think Emery correctly stated early on that constant pressure could cause leaks. That is true but there is more.
Do NOT NOT NOT, use the screw adjuster to crank down past where you normally hold the brake to hold on whatever slope you are on. To
do so put much more than normal pressure on the hydraulics. Ask me how I know this.....
Rob Mueller made one just like V2.0 and was cranking the handle down tight when he noticed the pedal went down suddenly. Didn't
think much about it but later he wanted me to drive his coach and see how good the brakes were. As I was leaving my house, I said,
"NO BRAKES" as I was standing on the pedal.
Turns out we literally blew one of his braided stainless brake lines out of the fittings AND KILLED the master cylinder.
Rob's brakes have been on the coach for several years but the moral of this story is that you only have to move the pedal the the
same point you'd be at if you were holding the brake with your foot. Any more is just excessive pressure and BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
In Rob's case, a STOMP ON THE BRAKES PANIC STOP could have done the same thing....or not.
The good news is that the local Advance had a new brake line (not braided) and I had a brand new P30 MC. He also had a Hupy bleeder
top and we're cobbling up the rest of the pressure bleeder and they should be good to go tomorrow.
DON'T PRESS IT DOWN MORE THAN YOU WOULD WITH YOUR FOOT UNLESS YOU WANT TO TEST YOUR COMPONENTS TO POSSIBLE FAILURE.
--
Kerry Pinkerton
North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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