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Yet another trip report [message #220707] Sat, 31 August 2013 20:00 Go to next message
1275gtsport is currently offline  1275gtsport   Canada
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Just got home from the best trip so far in the gmc. well at least the one I have felt the most comfortable driving. We drove to just outside of Quebec city to a little place called Valcartier. Our future son-in-law graduated from basic training (BMNQ) for the Navy. We even took the GMC down town Quebec City at Morning Rush hour (or just before) to park right on the docks near the Navel Reserve Building where the event was held.

Except for fuel and a couple of short stops for food we drove both ways non stop. (roughly 8 hours each way) of course this was 5 days apart.

Other then a small issue with lack of power and bolts falling out of my newly installed cockpit seats (need loctight) and getting a small push from a sleeping Quebec supper time rush hour driver we had zero failures.

Sorry if the post is a bit boring but I now truely understand how some of you can jump in these things and drive thousands of miles. This trip was just over the 1000 mile mark return and we used about a quart of oil.

I do have one question.
What does a front wheel bearing sound like when it is getting ready to go? There was an unidentified sound while traveling at low speed next to construction barriers. It sounded like rubber turning on metal. As in squeak squeak at a steady rhythm. All wheels and hubs were checked with the hand touch method at any stop. they all felt the same. I have not personally greased the front bearing as I don't have a bearing tool and thus have no idea what they look like.


Adam Raeburn
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1977 GMC Palm Beach
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Re: Yet another trip report [message #220711 is a reply to message #220707] Sat, 31 August 2013 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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1275gtsport wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 20:00

...I have not personally greased the front bearing as I don't have a bearing tool and thus have no idea what they look like.
If you ever decide to have the hub taken apart, have the mechanic install a grease zerk so you don't have to take it apart again.

I have posted this Chuck Aulgur designed gadget before and some of the old guys on the forum recoiled in horror at the possibility of getting a grain of dirt in the bearing:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/885

Instructions for its use are here:

http://appliedgmc.com/images/greaser3.pdf
Re: [GMCnet] Yet another trip report [message #220719 is a reply to message #220711] Sat, 31 August 2013 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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A,

I have one of the tools but I have never used it - my knuckles have zerks in them. I bought it to help others that didn't have the
zerks.

The funny bit is that it is in the bottom drawer of my tool box but I had forgotten that it was there. We could have used it on
Robin's front wheel bearings! Douh!

I talked to Chuck about his tool when he first designed it and he noted that it would be best to disassemble the bearings to check
their condition then swap over to the tool.

NONE of us "OLD GUYS" recoiled; we expressed concern that the area around the tool was really filthy and that risk of contamination
would be high unless the person greasing the bearings was careful. Like Chuck Aulgur - an OLD GUY.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: A.

I have posted this Chuck Aulgur designed gadget before and some of the old guys on the forum recoiled in horror at the possibility
of getting a grain of dirt in the bearing:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/885

Instructions for its use are here:

http://appliedgmc.com/images/greaser3.pdf


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Re: [GMCnet] Yet another trip report [message #220722 is a reply to message #220719] Sat, 31 August 2013 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 22:18

A,

I have one of the tools but I have never used it - my knuckles have zerks in them. I bought it to help others that didn't have the zerks.

The funny bit is that it is in the bottom drawer of my tool box but I had forgotten that it was there. We could have used it on
Robin's front wheel bearings! Douh!

I talked to Chuck about his tool when he first designed it and he noted that it would be best to disassemble the bearings to check their condition then swap over to the tool.

NONE of us "OLD GUYS" recoiled; we expressed concern that the area around the tool was really filthy and that risk of contamination would be high unless the person greasing the bearings was careful. Like Chuck Aulgur - an OLD GUY.

Regards,
Rob M.
Yeah, us young whipper snappers in our fifties are reckless. We would put some grease in that bad boy without taking it apart. Because if no dirt gets in it during the process, how can more grease cause a failure sooner than doing nothing?

If I was going to have the bearing disassembled, I would have the knuckle drilled for a zerk, obviating the need for the tool.

So logically you would only use the tool if you do not intend to disassemble the hub.

Right?
Re: [GMCnet] Yet another trip report [message #220727 is a reply to message #220722] Sun, 01 September 2013 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mate,

"Yeah, us young whipper snappers in our fifties are reckless."

YOU used the term "OLD GUYS."

"Because if no dirt gets in it during the process, how can more grease cause a failure sooner than doing nothing?"

Obviously it can't BUT the guy that invented the tool noted that it would be best to disassemble the bearings to check their
condition then swap over to the tool as an alternative to drilling the knuckle for a zerk.

"So logically you would only use the tool if you do not intend to disassemble the hub."

Chuck noted that his intent of the tool was to be able to grease the bearings REPEATEDLY without having to disassemble the hub AFTER
their condition was established.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: A.

Yeah, us young whipper snappers in our fifties are reckless. We would put some grease in that bad boy without taking it apart.
Because if no dirt gets in it during the process, how can more grease cause a failure sooner than doing nothing?

If I was going to have the bearing disassembled, I would have the knuckle drilled for a zerk, obviating the need for the tool.

So logically you would only use the tool if you do not intend to disassemble the hub.

Right?

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Re: [GMCnet] Yet another trip report [message #220728 is a reply to message #220707] Sun, 01 September 2013 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hubcaps or aluminum wheels? The hubcaps on 16.5" steel wheels sing a tune all their own.

You could be hearing tire noise, CV joints, some other accessory, or the wheel bearings. The conventional wisdom around here is - if YOU didn't service the bearings in the last 25,000 miles, then it's time to do it.

Or put on the 1-Ton front end and worry about them in 100,000 miles, or so.

Larry Davick
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Re: [GMCnet] Yet another trip report [message #220739 is a reply to message #220727] Sun, 01 September 2013 10:02 Go to previous message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 01 September 2013 02:22

...YOU used the term "OLD GUYS."

"Because if no dirt gets in it during the process, how can more grease cause a failure sooner than doing nothing?"

Obviously it can't BUT the guy that invented the tool noted that it would be best to disassemble the bearings to check their
condition then swap over to the tool as an alternative to drilling the knuckle for a zerk.

"So logically you would only use the tool if you do not intend to disassemble the hub."

Chuck noted that his intent of the tool was to be able to grease the bearings REPEATEDLY without having to disassemble the hub AFTER their condition was established.

Regards,
Rob M.
Like everything GMC, there are options. Like I said, if I went to the trouble/expense of taking the bearings apart to examine (and then grease) them, I would go ahead and drill and install a zerk. Obviating the need for the tool.

I see no reason to spend $80 on the greaser tool when I could spend $80 on the drill jig and put in a zerk. As far as I am concerned, the usefulness of the greaser tool is that it eliminates the need to disassemble the hub. Chuck recommends another course of action, but since his course of action results in an opportunity to install a zerk, that renders his tool unneccesary.

YMMV
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