| Re: [GMCnet] Lithium ion house batteries [message #220281] |
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hnielsen2
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Location: Alpine CA
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I have asked this question before.
No one has ever gotten back to me.
What are we going to do with the used battery's and what will be the cost?
My neighbors daughter owns a Toyota four door sedan from what I understand the battery's are going south.
Her husband can no longer drive it to and from work
Some thing about the battery's no longer have the range ?
Thank You
Howard
All is well with my Lord
Never Give Up
On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:06, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mark,
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> I have to disagree with you. Nattering nay Sayers point to Solyndra as a sweetheart boon doggle but the same loan guarantees went to Tesla. I drove by their headquarters in Palo Alto yesterday and it looked like a beehive of activity. The factory here in Fremont is very busy too. These cars would sell just as we'll without the tax advantage, as they are competing with other luxury cars of high price.
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> Lets not forget that the automobile is subsidized with taxpayer highways, bridges, etc. we've subsidized many emerging industries
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> Dang. Sorry for the off topic rant.
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> I think used Leafs will make for interesting battery banks on many coaches.
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> Larry Davick
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> On Aug 28, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Mark <mark@habcycles.com> wrote:
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>> ljdavick wrote on Wed, 28 August 2013 18:46
>>> It looks as if we are at a pivotal time for the auto industry.
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>> As long as the taxpayer has to ante up significant money ($7,500 per Leaf, IIRC) to make it work, we're not at any pivotal point... the time will come, but we're not there yet. The batteries in the Leaf reportedly cost the manufacturer $18,000... should make for some interesting used car values down the road 5 or 6 years. It also means you have to save a LOT of gas money to save up for a new battery.
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>> To me, the government forcing not-quite-mature technologies on the market probably hurt the development of the real ultimate solution. As long as there are "viable alternatives", even if those alternatives survive only in an artificial, highly subsidized environment, the entrepreneur doesn't have the same motivation to come up with the real solution. That is, an electric car that competes head to head with all other options and wins. It'll happen, but right now it's about politicians picking winners and losers (at our expense, of course).
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>> Mark Hickey
>> Mesa, AZ
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