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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220327 is a reply to message #220294] |
Thu, 29 August 2013 11:55   |
The JEWELERS
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These are two different front vehicles?
David
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On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is the real deal. I took several photos of that beauty and posted
> them on the net a few years back. It was built in Michigan, moved to NM,
> sold in Tucson. I don't know who owns it now.
> Steve F
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> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Gailen Vick <gailen@rla.org> wrote:
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>> Does anyone know who owns these GMC? Here are 3 pictures
>> http://rla.org/upload/541_agenda_GMCLegacy.docx
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>> Any contact information would be nice.
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>> Is it real, or just a mocked up picture?
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>> Gailen Vick
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220329 is a reply to message #220327] |
Thu, 29 August 2013 11:57 |
Jeff Marten
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Looks like the same vehicle with two different front ends, the Camaro one possibly photo shopped.
> From: great.jewelers@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:55:06 -0500
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not?
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> These are two different front vehicles?
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> David
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > That is the real deal. I took several photos of that beauty and posted
> > them on the net a few years back. It was built in Michigan, moved to NM,
> > sold in Tucson. I don't know who owns it now.
> > Steve F
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Gailen Vick <gailen@rla.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know who owns these GMC? Here are 3 pictures
> >> http://rla.org/upload/541_agenda_GMCLegacy.docx
> >>
> >> Any contact information would be nice.
> >>
> >> Is it real, or just a mocked up picture?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gailen Vick
> >>
> >> 1975 Eleganza II from Lehi, Utah
> >>
> >> 510-364-761 cell phone
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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> >
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> > Take care,
> > Steve
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220712 is a reply to message #220234] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 20:30 |
Chr$
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The Camaro front end is photoshopped on the coach. the other one is real. I'm not a fan of the look of the mid 90's GMC truck look on the coach, but the skill is there. I have not seen a front end mod that looks as good as the original. It's like a jeep cherokee (not grand) they only look good stock. they look retarded lifted, and just plain stupid lowered.
The super crew taillights do look good, as do the dodge van taillights.
That shovel nose is interesting.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220713 is a reply to message #220712] |
Sat, 31 August 2013 20:48 |
Carl S.
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I looked that coach over when it was for sale at a lot in Tucson. As several people stated, the Camaro front end was NOT on the coach and was photoshopped. The other pics were actual photos of the coach as built. The workmanship was top notch on the exterior and the interior as well.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220738 is a reply to message #220733] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 09:45 |
Carl S.
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| habbyguy wrote on Sun, 01 September 2013 06:41 |
| Chr$ wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 18:30 |
I have not seen a front end mod that looks as good as the original. It's like a jeep cherokee (not grand) they only look good stock. they look retarded lifted, and just plain stupid lowered.
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I agree that it's hard to beat the stock lines of a GMC... I do kind of like aspects of the Camaro front end, but the shovel nose does less than nothing for me... can't say why, but it just doesn't work (again, for me - YMMV).
The Cherokee IS a great example - many think it's still the best looking SUV ever built (myself included). The only thing I'd disagree about is that I think they look better lifted, as long as it's done tastefully and right (like mine)...
http://www.habcycles.com/After.jpg
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I agree on the lifted Cherokee. Mine is lifted 4" plus with 31" tires and you can hardly even tell it is much different from stock.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/towing-etc/p34786-towing.html
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220744 is a reply to message #220741] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 10:41 |
Joe Weir
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The clay model has a couple of key differences that are pretty standard practice for show vehicle vs production IMHO. The show vehicle does not have to be practical, just look good.
The windshield on the clay model has more rake and the bumpers are standard 60's thin chrome strips. This gives the nose less vertical frontal area.
That said, I'd love to be able to commission an attempt to recreate that front end on a real coach. I wouldn't want to do this on a complete coach, but there are coaches out there in need of front end repair that would be perfect candidates.
I'd like to recreate some of the other features such as the front wheel "blister" that moves forward to the headlights, and the mAtching rear wheel blister with flares.
The funny thing is some of the details that were not do-able in 73 now are - such as the frameless glass and the door glass and side glass match. Front wheel drive was an oddity; now it is the norm.
Way ahead of its time.
76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
Columbia, SC.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220771 is a reply to message #220744] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 16:33 |
mojoe
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I really don't like the clay model front in.. Looks to much like a car front end..
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220783 is a reply to message #220771] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 18:13 |
Joe Weir
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reminds me of the '65 Dodge Deora concept car.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/rw09_r184_lead.jpg
76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
Columbia, SC.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220864 is a reply to message #220733] |
Mon, 02 September 2013 10:17 |
Chr$
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Yeah, that one is tastefully done. Most lifted ones have cut out fenders.
| habbyguy wrote on Sun, 01 September 2013 06:41 |
| Chr$ wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 18:30 |
I have not seen a front end mod that looks as good as the original. It's like a jeep cherokee (not grand) they only look good stock. they look retarded lifted, and just plain stupid lowered.
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I agree that it's hard to beat the stock lines of a GMC... I do kind of like aspects of the Camaro front end, but the shovel nose does less than nothing for me... can't say why, but it just doesn't work (again, for me - YMMV).
The Cherokee IS a great example - many think it's still the best looking SUV ever built (myself included). The only thing I'd disagree about is that I think they look better lifted, as long as it's done tastefully and right (like mine)...
http://www.habcycles.com/After.jpg
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-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Face-lift - is it real or not? [message #220873 is a reply to message #220864] |
Mon, 02 September 2013 10:42 |
habbyguy
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| Chr$ wrote on Mon, 02 September 2013 08:17 |
Yeah, that one is tastefully done. Most lifted ones have cut out fenders.
| habbyguy wrote on Sun, 01 September 2013 06:41 |
| Chr$ wrote on Sat, 31 August 2013 18:30 |
I have not seen a front end mod that looks as good as the original. It's like a jeep cherokee (not grand) they only look good stock. they look retarded lifted, and just plain stupid lowered.
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I agree that it's hard to beat the stock lines of a GMC... I do kind of like aspects of the Camaro front end, but the shovel nose does less than nothing for me... can't say why, but it just doesn't work (again, for me - YMMV).
The Cherokee IS a great example - many think it's still the best looking SUV ever built (myself included). The only thing I'd disagree about is that I think they look better lifted, as long as it's done tastefully and right (like mine)...
http://www.habcycles.com/After.jpg
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Not to belabor the point, but I wanted to add a (low-resolution) "before photo" of my Cherokee:
http://www.habcycles.com/prelift.jpg
While it is usually difficult to improve the look and balance beyond what the factory did, it IS possible. Like most GMC projects, I've put more work and money into my Cherokee than makes sense, but like my GMC, the vehicle is much improved from its factory mode, and is a great source of enjoyment to me.
I should mention that the next modification to my Cherokee is a baseplate for a Blue Ox towbar, as well as an electronic tow brake system.
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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