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| Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench [message #220270 is a reply to message #220268] |
Wed, 28 August 2013 22:05   |
Ronald Pottol
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Well, the same reason y you would buy a clicky type wrench. I only have a
beam type myself.
On Aug 28, 2013 7:46 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Ron,
>
> Why in the world would anyone buy a "click" type torque wrench like this
> with these torque settings:
>
> 72 - 65 - 57 - 50 - 43 - 36
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> Plus six more.
>
> You can buy a plain old beam type torque wrench for a hell of a lot less,
> you can set an infinite number of torques AND they NEVER
> go out of calibration - IF you don't abuse them!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
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> gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Pottol
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:04 PM
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> Subject: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench
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> http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/08/daniel-zimmerman/gear-review-borka-military-grade-multi-torque-driver/
> --
> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench [message #220272 is a reply to message #220271] |
Thu, 29 August 2013 00:17 |
Ronald Pottol
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I'd do 57 and perhaps a tiny bit more on 65. Tension can vary by as much as
50%, torque is a very imprecise way to tension fasteners, but stretch is a
pain to measure in most cases.
On Aug 28, 2013 8:44 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Ron,
>
> You missed my point. Here's a link to the detailed description of the MG7:
> http://www.borkatools.com/pages/atd12/mtsd.html
>
> As you can see you can torque items to: 72 - 65 - 57 - 50 - 43 - 36 - 30 -
> 27 - 21 -18 - 15 inch pounds
>
> What do you do if you need to torque a bolt to 60 in lb?
>
> This device has limited application evidently to rifle scopes.
>
> I have two Sears beam type torque wrenches and four "breakaway" type
> torque wrenches. The breakaway torque wrenches have dials that
> allow you to set any torque value in their range.
>
> By the way if you want a really accurate and easy to read torque wrench
> buy yourself some Snap-On torque wrenches. They have a 2
> inch dial that is VERY easy to read and they are VERY accurate. We used
> them in the Hamilton Standard shop at the Johnson Space
> Center. Depending on what they were used to torque the calibration period
> ran from as low as every three months to once a year.
>
> The only problem is you'll have to mortgage the house to afford the damn
> things! Typical CRAZY Snap-On prices.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Pottol
>
> Well, the same reason y you would buy a clicky type wrench. I only have a
> beam type myself.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench [message #220300 is a reply to message #220272] |
Thu, 29 August 2013 08:12 |
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USAussie
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OK you're right.
I don't know shit from shineola about torquing fasteners to precise specs after working on USAF aircraft, the Project Apollo
Astronaut Life Support Systems and Hamilton Standard propellers where the hub bolts are stretched to the same measurement.
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Pottol
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:18 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench
I'd do 57 and perhaps a tiny bit more on 65. Tension can vary by as much as
50%, torque is a very imprecise way to tension fasteners, but stretch is a
pain to measure in most cases.
On Aug 28, 2013 8:44 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Ron,
>
> You missed my point. Here's a link to the detailed description of the MG7:
> http://www.borkatools.com/pages/atd12/mtsd.html
>
> As you can see you can torque items to: 72 - 65 - 57 - 50 - 43 - 36 - 30 -
> 27 - 21 -18 - 15 inch pounds
>
> What do you do if you need to torque a bolt to 60 in lb?
>
> This device has limited application evidently to rifle scopes.
>
> I have two Sears beam type torque wrenches and four "breakaway" type
> torque wrenches. The breakaway torque wrenches have dials that
> allow you to set any torque value in their range.
>
> By the way if you want a really accurate and easy to read torque wrench
> buy yourself some Snap-On torque wrenches. They have a 2
> inch dial that is VERY easy to read and they are VERY accurate. We used
> them in the Hamilton Standard shop at the Johnson Space
> Center. Depending on what they were used to torque the calibration period
> ran from as low as every three months to once a year.
>
> The only problem is you'll have to mortgage the house to afford the damn
> things! Typical CRAZY Snap-On prices.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Pottol
>
> Well, the same reason y you would buy a clicky type wrench. I only have a
> beam type myself.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench [message #220304 is a reply to message #220300] |
Thu, 29 August 2013 08:39 |
C Boyd
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Rob, This thing won`t work for our steering boxes anyway. IIRC 1st torque is 7 in lb with a final of 14 in lb.
[quote title=Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 29 August 2013 09:12]OK you're right.
I don't know shit from shineola about torquing fasteners to precise specs after working on USAF aircraft, the Project Apollo
Astronaut Life Support Systems and Hamilton Standard propellers where the hub bolts are stretched to the same measurement.
Regards,
Rob M.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench [message #220785 is a reply to message #220300] |
Sun, 01 September 2013 18:27 |
Ronald Pottol
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Rob, you clearly know more that I ever will, but I would be that from the
factory, these didn't come anything close to the closeness of the specs the
FAA, let alone NASA, require, and now, 40 years down the road...
Mostly, I just thought it was an interesting solution to the problem,
probably holds spec better than most clicky type wrenches, I'd guess, but
I'll probably just keep living with needle type, and kludging reading the
needle some times.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> OK you're right.
>
> I don't know shit from shineola about torquing fasteners to precise specs
> after working on USAF aircraft, the Project Apollo
> Astronaut Life Support Systems and Hamilton Standard propellers where the
> hub bolts are stretched to the same measurement.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:
> gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Pottol
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:18 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench
>
> I'd do 57 and perhaps a tiny bit more on 65. Tension can vary by as much as
> 50%, torque is a very imprecise way to tension fasteners, but stretch is a
> pain to measure in most cases.
> On Aug 28, 2013 8:44 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Ron,
> >
> > You missed my point. Here's a link to the detailed description of the
> MG7:
> > http://www.borkatools.com/pages/atd12/mtsd.html
> >
> > As you can see you can torque items to: 72 - 65 - 57 - 50 - 43 - 36 - 30
> -
> > 27 - 21 -18 - 15 inch pounds
> >
> > What do you do if you need to torque a bolt to 60 in lb?
> >
> > This device has limited application evidently to rifle scopes.
> >
> > I have two Sears beam type torque wrenches and four "breakaway" type
> > torque wrenches. The breakaway torque wrenches have dials that
> > allow you to set any torque value in their range.
> >
> > By the way if you want a really accurate and easy to read torque wrench
> > buy yourself some Snap-On torque wrenches. They have a 2
> > inch dial that is VERY easy to read and they are VERY accurate. We used
> > them in the Hamilton Standard shop at the Johnson Space
> > Center. Depending on what they were used to torque the calibration period
> > ran from as low as every three months to once a year.
> >
> > The only problem is you'll have to mortgage the house to afford the damn
> > things! Typical CRAZY Snap-On prices.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ronald Pottol
> >
> > Well, the same reason y you would buy a clicky type wrench. I only have a
> > beam type myself.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench [message #220993 is a reply to message #220785] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 08:20 |
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USAussie
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Ron,
I must apologize, I'm sorry I got a bit uppity but that torque wrench was designed to torque rifle sights. I couldn't see with the
limited number of settings where it would be of use on a GMC or any other vehicle for that matter.
Plus it is ridiculously expensive!
If you're looking for a 1/4" drive low range breakaway torque wrench McMaster Carr has them. However, to check the steering box you
need a beam type.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Pottol
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 6:28 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] interesting inch-pound torque wrench
Rob, you clearly know more that I ever will, but I would be that from the
factory, these didn't come anything close to the closeness of the specs the
FAA, let alone NASA, require, and now, 40 years down the road...
Mostly, I just thought it was an interesting solution to the problem,
probably holds spec better than most clicky type wrenches, I'd guess, but
I'll probably just keep living with needle type, and kludging reading the
needle some times.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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