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losing power [message #220016] Mon, 26 August 2013 17:07 Go to next message
Glenn is currently offline  Glenn   Canada
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Intermitent problem of losing power. Also notice that the vacuum is down but may be related to increased throttle trying to overcome the problem,(all new vacuum hose and have checked for leaks/connection problems). Do not totally lose power but have trouble maintaining speed(55mph without considerably more throttle)even on level cruise. Comes and goes but the fuel pressure on gage remains constant.In tank pump with new filters. Do not think it is hot enough for vapour lock as it has happened when just starting out for the day.Does not seem to matter if fan clutch is on or off but had to put on old clutch as new one would not release. Running 91 octane gas. What you all think, carburator,crappy fuel or ignition problem????? Thanks for all opinions.
Glenn


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Re: losing power [message #220017 is a reply to message #220016] Mon, 26 August 2013 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Sounds to me like stuck spark advance not working. Could be mechanical, vacuum or both. Remove cap and check and lubricate mechanism as needed. You can confirm first with timing light. Could be a sloppy timing chain as well would be similar symptoms.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: losing power [message #220018 is a reply to message #220016] Mon, 26 August 2013 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
winter is currently offline  winter   United States
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cracked intake?

Jerrod Winter
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Green Jelly Bean
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Re: losing power [message #220020 is a reply to message #220016] Mon, 26 August 2013 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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What John said. Happened to me. Not vapor lock if your fuel pressure is constant when pedal is depressed.
Dan


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Re: losing power [message #220021 is a reply to message #220020] Mon, 26 August 2013 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Also, I had a module go bad. Ran 55 mph if on flat. If I gave it more pedal, stammered all over the place.
Dan


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Re: losing power [message #220031 is a reply to message #220016] Mon, 26 August 2013 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Make sure the secondaries on the carburetor are opening, too.

Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: losing power [message #220033 is a reply to message #220016] Mon, 26 August 2013 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glenn is currently offline  Glenn   Canada
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New motor, block off plates on intake, if i punch it secondaries open, will check vac advance. no internet but using campground computer so will check back. thanks
glenn


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Re: losing power [message #220053 is a reply to message #220033] Mon, 26 August 2013 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Replace the fuel filter(s).



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Re: losing power [message #220059 is a reply to message #220016] Mon, 26 August 2013 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Parking brake?

Mike


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Re: [GMCnet] losing power [message #220081 is a reply to message #220017] Tue, 27 August 2013 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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I'm chiming in with John on this one. Recheck your timing, start at 12 deg
initial. Inspect your mechanical advance mechanism, it may be rusted and
binding. Sooner or later, most do.
Steve F.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM, John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com> wrote:

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> Sounds to me like stuck spark advance not working. Could be mechanical,
> vacuum or both. Remove cap and check and lubricate mechanism as needed.
> You can confirm first with timing light. Could be a sloppy timing chain
> as well would be similar symptoms.
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Re: [GMCnet] losing power [message #220082 is a reply to message #220081] Tue, 27 August 2013 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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When checking the mechanical advance mechanism, you should be able to twist
the rotor , let go, and it should snap back to original position. If it
hesitates at all the distributor shaft passing through the bushing is most
likely gummed up.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm chiming in with John on this one. Recheck your timing, start at 12 deg
> initial. Inspect your mechanical advance mechanism, it may be rusted and
> binding. Sooner or later, most do.
> Steve F.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM, John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Sounds to me like stuck spark advance not working. Could be mechanical,
> > vacuum or both. Remove cap and check and lubricate mechanism as needed.
> > You can confirm first with timing light. Could be a sloppy timing chain
> > as well would be similar symptoms.
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Re: losing power [message #220132 is a reply to message #220016] Tue, 27 August 2013 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glenn is currently offline  Glenn   Canada
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turns out to be mechanical advance. Can I access everything from the top or do I need to pull distributor? Also whats the best to lube it with?Thanks
Glenn


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Re: losing power [message #220185 is a reply to message #220016] Wed, 28 August 2013 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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If it's the weight pivots and pins and rub areas, you can put a bit of grease on your finger and apply a film, thin so barely visible. If it's the concentric shafts you could try a spout oiler, but the right way is to remove and knock out the roll pin and separate to clean and grease. Pay attention to thrust washers as reverse rotation makes force opposite of Chevy. I have Synpower so that is what I'd use.

John Lebetski
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Re: losing power [message #220361 is a reply to message #220185] Thu, 29 August 2013 15:13 Go to previous message
Glenn is currently offline  Glenn   Canada
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Well it was the mechanical advance that was hanging up. I pulled the distributor and cleaned, greased etc etc etc all under the watchful eye of the master from Coldwater. Thanks to all that replied.
Glenn


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