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Mon, 26 August 2013 08:27

Steven Ferguson

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Bob,
You're gonna hate this. 860 hp vs 18 hp. A bit unfair but fun to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQhvruimfs&feature=youtu.be

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #219972 is a reply to message #219965]

Mon, 26 August 2013 08:45

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Steve
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On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:27, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob,
> You're gonna hate this. 860 hp vs 18 hp. A bit unfair but fun to watch:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQhvruimfs&feature=youtu.be
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220046 is a reply to message #219965]

Mon, 26 August 2013 21:33

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Steve,

If you can apply 18 hp to the ground you can beat 860 (and probably more).

I wonder how much each of those rear cast iron wheels weigh?

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Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
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Bob,
You're gonna hate this. 860 hp vs 18 hp. A bit unfair but fun to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQhvruimfs&feature=youtu.be

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220084 is a reply to message #219965]

Tue, 27 August 2013 07:30

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I had an uncle that was into antique tractors and such. Several times we went to the Thresher-mans convention in Duquoin, Il. You have to be around some of the steam engines to appreciate the amount of power they can put on the ground. On top of that they make very little noise unless they are really getting on it.

They had this demonstration in a nearby unworked field. A steam traction engine pulling a man operated 7 bottom plow. (one man on each plow bottom to raise and lower it...7 men). The other tractor was an early gas powered tractor. HUGE beast...well both were huge but the gas engine tractor was even bigger.

They were side by side, the gas engine started off with no plows in the ground and they dropped them in one at a time as the tractor built up speed. The steam engine, dropped all seven at once and just rolled off, hardly making a sound.

Amazing to watch.

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220085 is a reply to message #219965]

Tue, 27 August 2013 07:45

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Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 26 August 2013 08:27

Steve & others;

And then you have this...where only 4 horsesdoes the job...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTM-EzD4pgg

Bob Drewes in SESD...(right smack dab in corn & ethanol country!!)

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220088 is a reply to message #220085]

Tue, 27 August 2013 08:36

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Pretty neat Bob....but I just can't see you painting a horse green and
yellow :>)

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Bob Drewes <bmdrewes@iw.net> wrote:

>
>
> Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 26 August 2013 08:27
> > Bob,
> > You're gonna hate this. 860 hp vs 18 hp. A bit unfair but fun to
> watch:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQhvruimfs&feature=youtu.be
> >
> > --
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> Steve & others;
>
> And then you have this...where only 4 horsesdoes the job...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTM-EzD4pgg
>
> Bob Drewes in SESD...(right smack dab in corn & ethanol country!!)
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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220089 is a reply to message #220088]

Tue, 27 August 2013 09:08

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Steven Ferguson wrote on Tue, 27 August 2013 08:36

Pretty neat Bob....but I just can't see you painting a horse green and
yellow :>)

Steve,

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220099 is a reply to message #220085]

Tue, 27 August 2013 11:15

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Ya' gotta respect torque and mass!

On 8/27/2013 5:45 AM, Bob Drewes wrote:
> Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 26 August 2013 08:27
>> >Bob,
>> > You're gonna hate this. 860 hp vs 18 hp. A bit unfair but fun to watch:
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQhvruimfs&feature=youtu.be
>> >

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220169 is a reply to message #219965]

Wed, 28 August 2013 07:57

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It all comes down to F=�N Friction = �(coefficient of friction)X Normal force (in this case weight)...

The � of both tractors is probably not that different, but the weight sure is.

Another thing in the favor of the steam traction engine is that it will produce its maximum torque at Zero Speed. This is one of the reasons that steam locomotives existed into the late 1950's when diesel technology was well established.

Those beautiful draft horses were able to pull that rig out of the snow is the same answer. What most people don't understand is that as soon as you spin a wheel on a bad surface (snow, ice, mud or wet grass) the � goes down to zilch.....
Hooves just don't do that except in very rare conditions.

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220173 is a reply to message #219965]

Wed, 28 August 2013 08:29

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The mouse almost upset the thing.

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Re: [GMCnet] Non GMC Bob Drewes [message #220178 is a reply to message #220169]

Wed, 28 August 2013 08:48

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Matt,

Speaking of draft horses Google Budweiser TV ads, they have a number of them on You Tube that are great!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Colie

Those beautiful draft horses were able to pull that rig out of the snow is the same answer. What most people don't understand is
that as soon as you spin a wheel on a bad surface (snow, ice, mud or wet grass) the � goes down to zilch.....
Hooves just don't do that except in very rare conditions.

Matt

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