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[GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219309]

Tue, 20 August 2013 17:54

Kingsley Coach

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Netters

Does anyone has an easy way to lube the shifter cable.

It seized from just sitting since April when I got back from my winter in
the cold Southwest .
I removed the cable and got it free in it's casing ...now how do I lube
it so that it doesn't cause a headache again ?

Thanks

Mike in NS

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219310 is a reply to message #219309]

Tue, 20 August 2013 17:57

tphipps

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No idea of the official answer, but I would try using the graphite lubes, used in bicycle cables.
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219319 is a reply to message #219309]

Tue, 20 August 2013 18:25

emerystora

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Hi Mike

if you can detach the high end you can form a "funnel around it with modeling clay or plumbers clay and fill that with some of your favorite penetrating oil. Let it soak down inside the cable. That should free up rust in the inside of the cable. However, I see that you already have the inside cable out. In that case you don't have to form a funnel around it as the penetrating oil should flow down freely.

Rinse it well with mineral spirits to get the rust particles out.
Then grease your cable well with a moly disulfide based grease. You could also use a graphite product but with the interior of the cable being rusted a moly grease should work better.

Emery Stora

On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:

> Netters
>
> Does anyone has an easy way to lube the shifter cable.
>
> It seized from just sitting since April when I got back from my winter in
> the cold Southwest .
> I removed the cable and got it free in it's casing ...now how do I lube
> it so that it doesn't cause a headache again ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike in NS
>
> --
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> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219320 is a reply to message #219309]

Tue, 20 August 2013 18:33

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There are kits for lubing similar cables (motorcycle for instance) that allow you to force cable lubricant into the housing. Here's one example.

http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Life-Kit/dp/B004CMDDLK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_8

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219321 is a reply to message #219320]

Tue, 20 August 2013 18:54

emerystora

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Most of those kits are for lubricating it when you cannot get the center cable out. Mike said he already have the center cable out so he doesn't have to force any lubricant down along the cable which is what those kits are designed to do.

Emery Stora

On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:33 PM, David Orders wrote:

>
>
> There are kits for lubing similar cables (motorcycle for instance) that allow you to force cable lubricant into the housing. Here's one example.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Life-Kit/dp/B004CMDDLK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_8
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219368 is a reply to message #219309]

Tue, 20 August 2013 23:32

Ken Burton

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Mike,

It is the bottom end of those cables that rusts in place. Disconnect both ends of the cable and you can slide the center of the cable way past it's normal travel. Then lube up the extended cable with anti-seize. The anti-seize will provide a coating to minimize future rusting on the bottom end. You could do the top end also but that is not the area that usually rusts.

Ken B.

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219369 is a reply to message #219320]

Tue, 20 August 2013 23:35

emerystora

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Most of those kits are for lubricating it when you cannot get the center cable out. Mike said he already have the center cable out so he doesn't have to force any lubricant down along the cable which is what those kits are designed to do.

Emery Stora

On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:33 PM, David Orders wrote:

>
>
> There are kits for lubing similar cables (motorcycle for instance) that allow you to force cable lubricant into the housing. Here's one example.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Life-Kit/dp/B004CMDDLK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_8
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219374 is a reply to message #219309]

Wed, 21 August 2013 00:38

George Beckman

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Kingsley Coach wrote on Tue, 20 August 2013 15:54

Netters

Does anyone has an easy way to lube the shifter cable.

It seized from just sitting since April when I got back from my winter in
the cold Southwest .
I removed the cable and got it free in it's casing ...now how do I lube
it so that it doesn't cause a headache again ?

Thanks

Mike in NS

--

How about never seize?. I am using it more and more. I put it on my torsion bar bolts and they are like velvet. (wondering, not a guarantee)

'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219385 is a reply to message #219374]

Wed, 21 August 2013 06:10

Kingsley Coach

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Thanks for the replies.

I removed the cable but don't see a way to separate the inner cable
from its casing, so I will be soaking and dripping lube between the sliding
parts (sorry for being so technical) until I run out of oil or it drips out
the other end.
As a life long fan of anti seize, everything I own usually gets slathered
in the stuff.

Mike in NS

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:38 AM, George Beckman <gbeckman@pggp.com> wrote:

>
>
> Kingsley Coach wrote on Tue, 20 August 2013 15:54
> > Netters
> >
> > Does anyone has an easy way to lube the shifter cable.
> >
> > It seized from just sitting since April when I got back from my winter in
> > the cold Southwest .
> > I removed the cable and got it free in it's casing ...now how do I lube
> > it so that it doesn't cause a headache again ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike in NS
> >
> > --
>
>
> How about never seize?. I am using it more and more. I put it on my
> torsion bar bolts and they are like velvet. (wondering, not a guarantee)
>
> --
> '74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
> Best Wishes,
> George
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219386 is a reply to message #219385]

Wed, 21 August 2013 06:20

JJUNKSELL

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Tape a funnel to one end and put oil in it, the funnel and hang it with a container under it.oil shoul flow thru it.

Dave, 76 PB moneypit.Center of CT.

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219388 is a reply to message #219385]

Wed, 21 August 2013 06:45

Mr ERFisher

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buy a new one from JimK

I tried everything - first
then bought one

gene

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks for the replies.
>
> I removed the cable but don't see a way to separate the inner cable
> from its casing, so I will be soaking and dripping lube between the sliding
> parts (sorry for being so technical) until I run out of oil or it drips out
> the other end.
> As a life long fan of anti seize, everything I own usually gets slathered
> in the stuff.
>
> Mike in NS
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:38 AM, George Beckman <gbeckman@pggp.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Kingsley Coach wrote on Tue, 20 August 2013 15:54
> > > Netters
> > >
> > > Does anyone has an easy way to lube the shifter cable.
> > >
> > > It seized from just sitting since April when I got back from my winter
> in
> > > the cold Southwest .
> > > I removed the cable and got it free in it's casing ...now how do I
> lube
> > > it so that it doesn't cause a headache again ?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Mike in NS
> > >
> > > --
> >
> >
> > How about never seize?. I am using it more and more. I put it on my
> > torsion bar bolts and they are like velvet. (wondering, not a guarantee)
> >
> > --
> > '74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
> > Best Wishes,
> > George
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219410 is a reply to message #219369]

Wed, 21 August 2013 08:46

cbwoodsr

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.....I removed the cable but don't see a way to separate the inner cable
from its casing, so I will be soaking and dripping lube between the sliding
parts (sorry for being so technical) until I run out of oil or it drips out
the other end.

He later clarified it...

CBW

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219411 is a reply to message #219388]

Wed, 21 August 2013 08:48

cbwoodsr

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Should be a lot more gooder to do this(Get one from JimK, I had to when my flashover allowed the covering to penetrate thru to the inside), comes with lubricant and you wont have to worry about it rusting up again...

JWIWDNM

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219431 is a reply to message #219320]

Wed, 21 August 2013 10:55

USAussie

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G'day,

In Sydney have one of those kits and it is for M/C cables which are about 1/8" OD, I wouldn't order one as I doubt it will fit our
shift cable which (from memory) is 3/8" OD.

There is a rubber seal around the end of the cable but it isn't leak tight and you won't 'force" lubricant down the inside of the
cable the seal keeps the spray lube from squirting out all over the place.

You can make your own cable lubricant. Dissolve a moly grease (Synpower, Durablend, Caterpillar Desert Gold) in Acetone or MEK and
put it in a plastic ketchup squeeze bottle and squeeze it on the end of the shift cable that's attached to the lever on the steering
column. Keep doing it until you see black drips coming from the end on the tranny. Probably a good idea to move the cable from Park
to L back and forth as you squirt in the lube. The Acetone / MEK evaporates leaving the Moly on / in the cable.

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: David Orders

There are kits for lubing similar cables (motorcycle for instance) that allow you to force cable lubricant into the housing. Here's
one example.

http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Life-Kit/dp/B004CMDDLK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_8

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219438 is a reply to message #219385]

Wed, 21 August 2013 11:45

Ken Burton

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Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 21 August 2013 06:10

Thanks for the replies.

I removed the cable but don't see a way to separate the inner cable
from its casing, so I will be soaking and dripping lube between the sliding
parts (sorry for being so technical) until I run out of oil or it drips out
the other end.
As a life long fan of anti seize, everything I own usually gets slathered
in the stuff.

Mike in NS

Just be sure to shove the cable all the way down in it's casing and coat it with anti-seize. The bottom end is where the water gets splashed into it and where it eventually rusts.

I do not care what you do about lubricating the rest of the cable. Choose a lubricant that you like or nothing at all. If the lubricant you choose has any ability to run, it will drain out of the cable over a few weeks any way and you will find it on the floor under the coach.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #219842 is a reply to message #219438]

Sun, 25 August 2013 07:13

Kingsley Coach

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Gentlemen

The cable has been freed, lubed and works Extremely well.
In fact, when I made my first shift with the 'new' cable, it was so easy
that I almost pulled the shift lever out of the steering column <VBG>

Thanks Guys !

Mike in NS

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 21 August 2013 06:10
> > Thanks for the replies.
> >
> > I removed the cable but don't see a way to separate the inner cable
> > from its casing, so I will be soaking and dripping lube between the
> sliding
> > parts (sorry for being so technical) until I run out of oil or it drips
> out
> > the other end.
> > As a life long fan of anti seize, everything I own usually gets slathered
> > in the stuff.
> >
> > Mike in NS
>
> Just be sure to shove the cable all the way down in it's casing and coat
> it with anti-seize. The bottom end is where the water gets splashed into
> it and where it eventually rusts.
>
> I do not care what you do about lubricating the rest of the cable. Choose
> a lubricant that you like or nothing at all. If the lubricant you choose
> has any ability to run, it will drain out of the cable over a few weeks any
> way and you will find it on the floor under the coach.
> --
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #220039 is a reply to message #219842]

Mon, 26 August 2013 20:53

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Mike,

Glad to hear you are no longer shiftless! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder

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From: Kingsley Coach

Gentlemen

The cable has been freed, lubed and works Extremely well.
In fact, when I made my first shift with the 'new' cable, it was so easy
that I almost pulled the shift lever out of the steering column <VBG>

Thanks Guys !

Mike in NS

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #220040 is a reply to message #220039]

Mon, 26 August 2013 21:01

Kingsley Coach

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Rob

Now I'm shifty !

Mike

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Glad to hear you are no longer shiftless! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kingsley Coach
>
> Gentlemen
>
> The cable has been freed, lubed and works Extremely well.
> In fact, when I made my first shift with the 'new' cable, it was so easy
> that I almost pulled the shift lever out of the steering column <VBG>
>
> Thanks Guys !
>
> Mike in NS
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #222910 is a reply to message #220040]

Tue, 17 September 2013 20:13

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What works for me on various cables: Find a nurse who can get you a 3-6 cc syringe. Cut the needle end off, use fuel hoses of appropriate size and hose clamp the syringe barrell in place on the cable. You place the solvent of choice or oil afterward in the syrynge and use the plunger to presurize the cable. If you leave some air room and punp it, it will go.

76 Glenbrook

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Re: [GMCnet] Shifter cable seized [message #222944 is a reply to message #219309]

Wed, 18 September 2013 06:35

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> syringe

I use those, too. You can get a box of oral-app syringes from most pharmacies --no needle to cut off. They also work well as micro-caulking guns for laying sealant in a fine line. For larger capacity I buy those horse-needle 'flavor injectors' from the cooking utensil section at Walmart.

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