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[GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219225] Tue, 20 August 2013 09:52 Go to next message
glwgmc is currently offline  glwgmc   United States
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Mean driving distance was one reason for selecting Coos Bay, OR, for our three GMC club event. Within the western GMC clubs we have members in several Provinces of Canada all the way to the Mexican border and everywhere west and a bit east of the Rocky Mountains. Coos Bay is close to the north/south center of that region (but there are far more GMCs south than north of that point). If you draw a circle using Coos Bay as the center point and San Diego as the southern point, you will pick up the majority of the GMC coaches that live in the west (but, again, there are far more GMCs east of that arc than there are west of that arc). Combine that with how beautiful the west coast is in October and we think it is a fair and winning combination. If you used population density alone as the location metric there would never be a rally much north of the greater LA basin. Come join us, still plenty of room and time whether you drive your GMC, a car, a SOB or fly in.

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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:33:41 -0500
From: Richard <GMC77Birchaven@yahoo.com>
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It's not about geographic and general population centers, where are the GMCs located? Then we can start talking about mean driving distance and such. If the general GMC population and not just the Black list were charted, that would be an interesting third graphic.

This would also be useful for the smaller chapters' rallies and determing driving distances. Maybe that's where it should start? Having each GMC chapter of the FMCA chart their members - town alone would probably be fine enough detail.

Dan, aka Kudzu, has done a nifty job putting the Black list onto Google Maps. Maybe he's up for a little more self-punishment...? ;) If you need a hand, Dan, let me know. I figure I have to volunteer for volunteering you.

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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219265 is a reply to message #219225] Tue, 20 August 2013 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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We will not be able to attend either event due to scheduling issues (and our jobs Sad ), but we are pretty much shut out of both by distance at this point in our lives. Believe it or not, Coos Bay, OR is farther from Tucson AZ than Branson, MO. We are currently stuck with taking GMC trips that are less than three days drive from home. It makes sense to accommodate as many people as possible and that sounds like it is what both organizations try to do.

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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219268 is a reply to message #219265] Tue, 20 August 2013 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

> It makes sense to accommodate as many people as possible and that sounds like it is what both organizations try to do.
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach

Not "both" but all four. The Coos Bay is being put on by three clubs.

Emery Stora

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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219272 is a reply to message #219268] Tue, 20 August 2013 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Maybe "both" because GMCWS and GMCMI are the two, technical clubs involved.
The other "two" on the west side of the Rockies aren't organized with a
technical agenda operating in the INTO setup of FMCA.

My take on Coos Bay or Branson is that those interested in the TZE make an
effort to get to either location for great conversation about all things
GMC.

Perhaps the name "Motorhomes International" is a bit of off target for the
way things are. But, if the name were anything else, would it make a
difference? It seems to have it's operating area defined and attempts to
meet that need with locations bouncing around the territory east of
Colorado.

Western States seems to be meeting the needs of those in California, Nevada,
Oregon, Washington, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, etc.

How about we just enjoy getting to where we can and leaving the complaints
in the circular file in the cloud? It'll be impossible to please everyone at
any given point in time.

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY


Emery Stora wrote:

>
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> >
> Not "both" but all four. The Coos Bay is being put on by three clubs.
>
> Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219274 is a reply to message #219272] Tue, 20 August 2013 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Superbly well put, Byron!

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> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:48:57 -0400
> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust
>
> Maybe "both" because GMCWS and GMCMI are the two, technical clubs involved.
> The other "two" on the west side of the Rockies aren't organized with a
> technical agenda operating in the INTO setup of FMCA.
>
> My take on Coos Bay or Branson is that those interested in the TZE make an
> effort to get to either location for great conversation about all things
> GMC.
>
> Perhaps the name "Motorhomes International" is a bit of off target for the
> way things are. But, if the name were anything else, would it make a
> difference? It seems to have it's operating area defined and attempts to
> meet that need with locations bouncing around the territory east of
> Colorado.
>
> Western States seems to be meeting the needs of those in California, Nevada,
> Oregon, Washington, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, etc.
>
> How about we just enjoy getting to where we can and leaving the complaints
> in the circular file in the cloud? It'll be impossible to please everyone at
> any given point in time.
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
>
>
> Emery Stora wrote:
>
> >
> > On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> > >
> > Not "both" but all four. The Coos Bay is being put on by three clubs.
> >
> > Emery Stora

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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219313 is a reply to message #219272] Tue, 20 August 2013 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Byron -- you are quoting part of my email and implying that my email was a complaint. It was in no way a complaint. I just felt that the Cascaders and the 49ers should get some credit for the Coos Bay rally because I am sure that they also put time and effort into it and have club members attending.

Rallies and conventions are not just technical.seminar events. They are also a great social time for members to meet old friends and make new ones.

From time to time some of the people on this GMCnet seem to like to make comments that imply that GMCWS and GMCMI are in some kind of competition. That is far from the truth.

I have been a member of GMCWS longer than I have been a member of GMCMI. In the past I was also an officer of GMCWS.

In looking over the July 2013 roster of 239 members of GMCWS and making a quick pass through the GMCMI membership I find that 156 of the 239 GMCWS members are also members of GMCMI. That is 66%. Does that sound like there is competition between the clubs? Also, 6 of the 8 officers of GMCWS are also members of GMCMI and 11 of the 17 officers of GMCMI are members of GMCWS.

I would really like to request that people stop taking potshots of one or the other club and get on with enjoying our GMCs. I also find that It is often people who are not members of either club who are doing this. If there are any members of GMCMI or of GMCWS that are doing this -- shame on you!

Those of us that will be at the GMCMI Convention at Branson hope that the people attending Coos Bay have a really great time. If it wasn't so far a drive from Branson and If there was more time between the two events I would go to both.

Emery Stora
President of GMCMI
Member of GMCWS


On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Byron Songer wrote:

> Maybe "both" because GMCWS and GMCMI are the two, technical clubs involved.
> The other "two" on the west side of the Rockies aren't organized with a
> technical agenda operating in the INTO setup of FMCA.
>
> My take on Coos Bay or Branson is that those interested in the TZE make an
> effort to get to either location for great conversation about all things
> GMC.
>
> Perhaps the name "Motorhomes International" is a bit of off target for the
> way things are. But, if the name were anything else, would it make a
> difference? It seems to have it's operating area defined and attempts to
> meet that need with locations bouncing around the territory east of
> Colorado.
>
> Western States seems to be meeting the needs of those in California, Nevada,
> Oregon, Washington, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, etc.
>
> How about we just enjoy getting to where we can and leaving the complaints
> in the circular file in the cloud? It'll be impossible to please everyone at
> any given point in time.
>
> Byron Songer
> Louisville, KY
>
>
> Emery Stora wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>>>
>> Not "both" but all four. The Coos Bay is being put on by three clubs.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>

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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219395 is a reply to message #219313] Wed, 21 August 2013 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Emery,

Yours was the last thread I read of many. Some have been on the complaint
side and others just conversation. Yours was the last I read and used it as
a springboard to make the comparison between WS and MI. ES continues to
struggle to stay in the realm of the vital living. I didn't take what you
said as a complaint.

I've always said the GMC is the reason we got together but the friends are
what keep us going. That's just not my case but that is a universal feeling.
Ask anyone who's been to more than two rallies and that'll be their
response, especially Dan Gregg.

I, too, fail to understand why comments are made that imply that GMCMI
doesn't care about the west and other comments like the one which seems to
indicate one group does a better job of courting vendors than another. The
old crap about "our stuff is free and you have to be a member to get their
stuff" is more a matter of opinion and policy than anything worth worrying
about. Life is short. Worry about drinking too much caffeine instead of
access to information (of which there's more than enough any day of the
week).

I liked your factual analysis of the breakdown on membership in the
organizations.

I, too, would like to have been at Coos Bay. If I weren't still teaching at
the college I'd be there. I fudge as it is to attend GMCMI. I do it for two
reasons. One is to get us GMCMI (btw, we'll not be doing pancakes this time
since the KOA will be filling that bill) and the other is to give students
time to research and turn in a writing assignment. Oddly, they apply more of
themselves when they write than they do just listening to me. There are
great things in store for those attending the three club rally. Beside, my
wife would have enjoyed the opportunity to become a millionaire since it
didn't pan out for her in Shawnee.

No offence meant so don't take any, please.

Byron Songer
Member of more than one club, gas or diesel
Webmaster for more than one club, gas or diesel
Newsletter editor for more than one club, gas or diesel
Still an admirer of the GMC concept but owner of a diesel pusher
Hooked on the lifestyle and will be doing it full time in 2015


Emery Stora wrote:

> Byron -- you are quoting part of my email and implying that my email was a
> complaint. It was in no way a complaint. I just felt that the Cascaders and
> the 49ers should get some credit for the Coos Bay rally because I am sure that
> they also put time and effort into it and have club members attending.
>
> Rallies and conventions are not just technical.seminar events. They are also
> a great social time for members to meet old friends and make new ones.
>
> From time to time some of the people on this GMCnet seem to like to make
> comments that imply that GMCWS and GMCMI are in some kind of competition.
> That is far from the truth.
>
> I have been a member of GMCWS longer than I have been a member of GMCMI. In
> the past I was also an officer of GMCWS.
>
> In looking over the July 2013 roster of 239 members of GMCWS and making a
> quick pass through the GMCMI membership I find that 156 of the 239 GMCWS
> members are also members of GMCMI. That is 66%. Does that sound like there
> is competition between the clubs? Also, 6 of the 8 officers of GMCWS are
> also members of GMCMI and 11 of the 17 officers of GMCMI are members of GMCWS.
>
> I would really like to request that people stop taking potshots of one or the
> other club and get on with enjoying our GMCs. I also find that It is often
> people who are not members of either club who are doing this. If there are
> any members of GMCMI or of GMCWS that are doing this -- shame on you!
>
> Those of us that will be at the GMCMI Convention at Branson hope that the
> people attending Coos Bay have a really great time. If it wasn't so far a
> drive from Branson and If there was more time between the two events I would
> go to both.
>
> Emery Stora
> President of GMCMI
> Member of GMCWS


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Re: [GMCnet] Coos Bay, Branson, or Bust [message #219412 is a reply to message #219395] Wed, 21 August 2013 08:53 Go to previous message
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Hey! I read my name in there. I am just a happy guy who enjoys others of like nature. Why do you think they have me in charge of the ice cream? It has nothing to do with how I dip the cream. I delegate all of those responsibilities. Actually Teri does the work, I have no illusions there. I work the crowd. Some of us have many talents and some of us are kinda like the one talent guy. Well, I am not burying my one talent. Some time ago I figured out that my main talent is that of a "cheerleader". I do my best to do that well. You guys fix problems, I try to keep folks happy.
Life is good.
Make it to the closest GMC rally when you can. If you have not been before, you will enjoy yourself.
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