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appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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Did anybody make a air outlet to use the onboard compressor to pumpop tires?

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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219040 is a reply to message #219039] Sun, 18 August 2013 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did on my 76 Birch

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Did anybody make a air outlet to use the onboard compressor to pumpop tires?
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Re: pumping tires? [message #219042 is a reply to message #219039] Sun, 18 August 2013 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you describe how you did it? /picture

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Re: pumping tires? [message #219096 is a reply to message #219039] Mon, 19 August 2013 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What air source do those of you who have an outside air connection use? Seems to me that the compressors we use for our suspension would have enough pressure but not enough volume capability to pressurize a tire.

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I did this on my Chevy 1-ton with Ride-Rite air bags. Just put a t with a schrader fitting in the line coming from the compressor under the hood and got a 25' coiled air hose. The compressor is considerably smaller than the the onboard GMC, but it will pump up a load range E tire to 80 psi if you have the patience.



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Re: pumping tires? [message #219132 is a reply to message #219039] Mon, 19 August 2013 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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appie wrote on Sun, 18 August 2013 21:36

Did anybody make a air outlet to use the onboard compressor to pumpop tires?


Here are some pics of a manifold my PO made up and I modified to use for tire inflation:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-viair-suspension-compressor/p34680-new-viair-suspension-c.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-viair-suspension-compressor/p34683-new-viair-suspension-compressor.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-viair-suspension-compressor/p34689-new-viair-suspension-compressor.html

I now carry two coiled hoses with quick disconnect fittings on them, plus a blow gun and a tire chuck.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: pumping tires? pressure quadrabags [message #219190 is a reply to message #219039] Mon, 19 August 2013 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice pictures, thank you
I am impressed to see the pressure on your system, makes me wonder how much pressure one could send out to the quadrabags?


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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? pressure quadrabags [message #219203 is a reply to message #219190] Tue, 20 August 2013 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Quadra Bag System operates on around 85psi and can be pumped to 135psi
for max height.
The other design operates at 110psi and takes about 165 or more to reach
max height.
Basic Q Bag design was acquired from the late Ken Rose, who felt that the
other design was too harsh of a ride and could not raise the coach to max
height.
Jim Bounds asked me to get a design that would hold up his stretch ed
coaches.
After acquiring the basic design from Ken Rose, Our designer, Rick Flanagan
moved it up to a new level with several innovative design and came up with
a unit that Jim Bounds endorses.

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> Nice pictures, thank you
> I am impressed to see the pressure on your system, makes me Our
> Qquadrabags?
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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219224 is a reply to message #219132] Tue, 20 August 2013 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,

I'll be moving my QD from the side of the tank up to where your PO put it as it's a PITA to connect it.

I've seen brass crosses with extra material between two branches with a mounting hole. I just searched McMaster Carr and Grainger
with no luck anybody know where I could get them?

Regards,
Rob M.

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appie wrote on Sun, 18 August 2013 21:36
> Did anybody make a air outlet to use the onboard compressor to pumpop tires?


Here are some pics of a manifold my PO made up and I modified to use for tire inflation:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-viair-suspension-compressor/p34680-new-viair-suspension-c.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-viair-suspension-compressor/p34683-new-viair-suspension-compressor.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-viair-suspension-compressor/p34689-new-viair-suspension-compressor.html

I now carry two coiled hoses with quick disconnect fittings on them, plus a blow gun and a tire chuck.
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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219226 is a reply to message #219224] Tue, 20 August 2013 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mine is a bit simpler, and IMHO more reliable.

I put a ball valve on the tank with a female quick connect.
Quick connects too often leak in my opinion, so it's shut off most of the time.

I can then plug an air hose into the quick connect and run my impact wrench or air up the tires, works great Smile

I can also use shop air to pressurize the system by using a double ended male quick connect fitting. I shut off the valve, stick the double male in the air tank fitting, then connect the air hose to the other end of the double male adapter and then open the valve...

away it goes.

I suppose I should post pictures


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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219232 is a reply to message #219226] Tue, 20 August 2013 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How bout them photos Keith?

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On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Mine is a bit simpler, and IMHO more reliable.
>
> I put a ball valve on the tank with a female quick connect.
> Quick connects too often leak in my opinion, so it's shut off most of the time.
>
> I can then plug an air hose into the quick connect and run my impact wrench or air up the tires, works great :)
>
> I can also use shop air to pressurize the system by using a double ended male quick connect fitting. I shut off the valve, stick the double male in the air tank fitting, then connect the air hose to the other end of the double male adapter and then open the valve...
>
> away it goes.
>
> I suppose I should post pictures
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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219240 is a reply to message #219232] Tue, 20 August 2013 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sgltrac wrote on Tue, 20 August 2013 10:12

How bout them photos Keith?

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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219261 is a reply to message #219226] Tue, 20 August 2013 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keith V wrote on Tue, 20 August 2013 07:55

Mine is a bit simpler, and IMHO more reliable.

I put a ball valve on the tank with a female quick connect.
Quick connects too often leak in my opinion, so it's shut off most of the time.

I can then plug an air hose into the quick connect and run my impact wrench or air up the tires, works great Smile

I can also use shop air to pressurize the system by using a double ended male quick connect fitting. I shut off the valve, stick the double male in the air tank fitting, then connect the air hose to the other end of the double male adapter and then open the valve...

away it goes.

I suppose I should post pictures



I have never had an issue with a quick disconnect leaking. I can also fill my system with shop air using a double ended male with a check valve between them. The ball valve would obviously work just as well. This was mostly a PO installed item, the only thing I changed was to add the QD. It works well.

Rob, the brass cross with a mounting hole you speak of would certainly be more elegant approach than the hose-clamped-to-a-piece-of-aluminum cross approach that Bruce used. If you find one, please share. I might be interested in cleaning mine up a bit.


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Carl,

10/4!

Regards,
Rob M.


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I have never had an issue with a quick disconnect leaking. I can also fill my system with shop air using a double ended male with a
check valve between them. The ball valve would obviously work just as well. This was mostly a PO installed item, the only thing I
changed was to add the QD. It works well.

Rob, the brass cross with a mounting hole you speak of would certainly be more elegant approach than the
hose-clamped-to-a-piece-of-aluminum cross approach that Bruce used. If you find one, please share. I might be interested in
cleaning mine up a bit.
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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219330 is a reply to message #219315] Tue, 20 August 2013 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 20 August 2013 18:20

Carl,

10/4!

Regards,
Rob M.


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I have never had an issue with a quick disconnect leaking. I can also fill my system with shop air using a double ended male with a
check valve between them. The ball valve would obviously work just as well. This was mostly a PO installed item, the only thing I
changed was to add the QD. It works well.

Rob, the brass cross with a mounting hole you speak of would certainly be more elegant approach than the
hose-clamped-to-a-piece-of-aluminum cross approach that Bruce used. If you find one, please share. I might be interested in
cleaning mine up a bit.
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you must have better quick connects than I do, I have a few around here that leak.

Anyway here's a picture of said valve and male to male connection
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/stuff/p50559-76-transmode-air-tank.html

and
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/stuff/p50557-76-transmode-air-tank-with-quick-connect.html


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Re: [GMCnet] pumping tires? [message #219331 is a reply to message #219315] Tue, 20 August 2013 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,
I found a plastic Festo Fitting.
http://www.pneumaticdepot.com/products.php?category=PZA%20-%20Union%20Cross&type=B

I found a brass ferrule compression
http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Ferrule-Compression-Fitting-Diameter/dp/B008DSMWX4




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> Carl,
>
> 10/4!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Stouffer
>
> I have never had an issue with a quick disconnect leaking. I can also
> fill my system with shop air using a double ended male with a
> check valve between them. The ball valve would obviously work just as
> well. This was mostly a PO installed item, the only thing I
> changed was to add the QD. It works well.
>
> Rob, the brass cross with a mounting hole you speak of would certainly be
> more elegant approach than the
> hose-clamped-to-a-piece-of-aluminum cross approach that Bruce used. If
> you find one, please share. I might be interested in
> cleaning mine up a bit.
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Keith V wrote on Tue, 20 August 2013 18:19


you must have better quick connects than I do, I have a few around here that leak.

Anyway here's a picture of said valve and male to male connection
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/stuff/p50559-76-transmode-air-tank.html

and
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/stuff/p50557-76-transmode-air-tank-with-quick-connect.html




Either that or I replace mine more frequently. Very Happy


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Bruce,

Great finds!

I wonder if you could tap out the brass fitting to 1/8 or 1/4 NPT.

Regards,
Rob M.

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Rob,
I found a plastic Festo Fitting.
http://www.pneumaticdepot.com/products.php?category=PZA%20-%20Union%20Cross&type=B

I found a brass ferrule compression
http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Ferrule-Compression-Fitting-Diameter/dp/B008DSMWX4

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from the pictures I get the impression that the front mounted tank is a lot bigger then the one in the mid cabinet. Is that right ?

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appie wrote on Wed, 21 August 2013 00:29

from the pictures I get the impression that the front mounted tank is a lot bigger then the one in the mid cabinet. Is that right ?


Yes


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