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Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Hey All;

Went to check the batteries on the Stretch and found that the
chassis battery was at 12.8VDC and the coach batteries (2x6 volt
batteries) were sitting at 6.1VDC. I went and looked at the
Inteli-Power PD9140A, and the Charge-Wizard had no green light. There
was no noise (fan) and the unit was warm. I checked the input (even
ran an extension cord to power it up) and it was good. So, where is
the preferred locations to purchase either a new or rebuilt unit?
Amazon has them for $139.41 (Free Shipping) and eBay has them for
$135.99 ($10.90 shipping). Does anyone rebuild these things? Thanks...

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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #216817 is a reply to message #216815] Sat, 03 August 2013 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go Here:

http://www.progressivedyn.com/servicedept.html

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On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey All;
>
> Went to check the batteries on the Stretch and found that the
> chassis battery was at 12.8VDC and the coach batteries (2x6 volt
> batteries) were sitting at 6.1VDC. I went and looked at the
> Inteli-Power PD9140A, and the Charge-Wizard had no green light. There
> was no noise (fan) and the unit was warm. I checked the input (even
> ran an extension cord to power it up) and it was good. So, where is
> the preferred locations to purchase either a new or rebuilt unit?
> Amazon has them for $139.41 (Free Shipping) and eBay has them for
> $135.99 ($10.90 shipping). Does anyone rebuild these things? Thanks...
>
> --
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> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #216819 is a reply to message #216817] Sat, 03 August 2013 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Hey JR;

Yep, they have factory reconditioned units for around $167. Tweetys
RV have them for $122.80 through Amazon.com. The Progressive Dynamics
service page says to check that the retailer sells units that have a
"valid serial number" for warranty reasons.. Not sure how to check
this, but I sent an email to the Tweetys sales department asking them
if they sell units with this valid serial number, so will see what
information I get back. It's interesting that Tweetys sells this
PD9140A on their website for around $177, so am wondering why it's $50
cheaper through Amazon.com.

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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #216822 is a reply to message #216819] Sat, 03 August 2013 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,
I am also unsure by what they mean "Valid serial number", but at a new price of 122.80 +sh it might be better to just get new if the repair price is too high.

JR
On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey JR;
>
> Yep, they have factory reconditioned units for around $167. Tweetys
> RV have them for $122.80 through Amazon.com. The Progressive Dynamics
> service page says to check that the retailer sells units that have a
> "valid serial number" for warranty reasons.. Not sure how to check
> this, but I sent an email to the Tweetys sales department asking them
> if they sell units with this valid serial number, so will see what
> information I get back. It's interesting that Tweetys sells this
> PD9140A on their website for around $177, so am wondering why it's $50
> cheaper through Amazon.com.
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
>> Go Here:
>>
>> http://www.progressivedyn.com/servicedept.html
>>
>> JR Wright
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217014 is a reply to message #216815] Mon, 05 August 2013 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Gary Berry wrote:

> Went to check the batteries on the Stretch and found that the chassis battery was at 12.8VDC and the coach batteries (2x6 volt batteries) were sitting at 6.1VDC. I went and looked at the Inteli-Power PD9140A, and the Charge-Wizard had no green light.

Make sure to check the three DC-side fuses on the PD. Mine blew during a recent reverse-polarity event (don't ask) but they could blow for other reasons too.

--Jim Miller
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1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH

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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217019 is a reply to message #216815] Mon, 05 August 2013 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why don't you just send the one you have in to be fixed?



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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217031 is a reply to message #217014] Mon, 05 August 2013 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Jim;

Good idea. I'll see if I can find them.
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On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Jim Miller <gmcnet@jcmco.com> wrote:

> Make sure to check the three DC-side fuses on the PD. Mine blew during a recent reverse-polarity event (don't ask) but they could blow for other reasons too.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217033 is a reply to message #217019] Mon, 05 August 2013 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Hey Ken;

Can't have the Stretch down that long. I have a trip planned next
week to the Oregon Coast. I've ordered a new one from Tweetys and it
will be here Thursday. They said that they order straight from
Progressive Dynamics so there is no problem with serial numbers (of
course, this is what they say...). I still have to fix the "not
getting out of 1st gear" problem...
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73 CL Stretch in Wa.

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> Why don't you just send the one you have in to be fixed?
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217038 is a reply to message #217033] Mon, 05 August 2013 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary, if your transmission will not upshift, it is usually a vacuum
problem..Check the line to the Modulator from the manifold first. Then all
other vacuum lines and include the carb base.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Aug 5, 2013 9:15 AM, "Gary Berry" <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Ken;
>
> Can't have the Stretch down that long. I have a trip planned next
> week to the Oregon Coast. I've ordered a new one from Tweetys and it
> will be here Thursday. They said that they order straight from
> Progressive Dynamics so there is no problem with serial numbers (of
> course, this is what they say...). I still have to fix the "not
> getting out of 1st gear" problem...
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Why don't you just send the one you have in to be fixed?
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217039 is a reply to message #217038] Mon, 05 August 2013 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Jim;

I forgot to mention that the speedometer isn't working either. I'll
check the vacuum line for sure as I just installed the EFI (about 750
miles ago) and the vacuum line could have disconnected for some
reason. Thanks for the info.
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On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gary, if your transmission will not upshift, it is usually a vacuum
> problem..Check the line to the Modulator from the manifold first. Then all
> other vacuum lines and include the carb base.
> Jim Hupy
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217046 is a reply to message #217039] Mon, 05 August 2013 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary,
Was the transmission still shifting when the speedometer was not working? If they both failed at the same time then you have lost the gear on the bottom of the governor.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

On Aug 5, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Jim;
>
> I forgot to mention that the speedometer isn't working either. I'll
> check the vacuum line for sure as I just installed the EFI (about 750
> miles ago) and the vacuum line could have disconnected for some
> reason. Thanks for the info.
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gary, if your transmission will not upshift, it is usually a vacuum
>> problem..Check the line to the Modulator from the manifold first. Then all
>> other vacuum lines and include the carb base.
>> Jim Hupy
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[GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217053 is a reply to message #217046] Mon, 05 August 2013 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey JR;

Yep, it was working. I'm going to drop the header and pull the governor
and check out that gear. I think the way I have the Rostra cruise control
installed is pinching the cable and since all of the turning force begins
with that gear, heir is probably sheared. The weak link in that whole
system is the gear. We shall see...
GaryB


On Monday, August 5, 2013, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Gary,
> Was the transmission still shifting when the speedometer was not working?
If they both failed at the same time then you have lost the gear on the
bottom of the governor.
/
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #217084 is a reply to message #217038] Mon, 05 August 2013 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the first gear thing for me was the vacuum hose to the transmission that slipped off on the bottom passenger side of the trans tube.

It was put back but the shop i went to would not tell me what it was until he slipped and said something, i was to think he

rebuilt the trans or something. it was just a hose slipped off the tube and the vacuum was stopped from being attached to the trans.

It slipped off when i down shifted on the freeway to stop for a big truck in front of me that slammed on his brakes and the vacuum was

some how blown off the tube in the under side of the trans and then it was stuck in first. I drove it 10 miles to MGM in first and

was never told what it was. I had just had it rebuilt by Manny. I thought manny had screwed up. How wrong i was, and i was not told

what did it for a few weeks till a slip of the lips that it was the vacuum tube slipped off. I thought manny had screwed up - what a

mistake that was. Manny is the best in the west and i am sorry i was asking him what happened because i was put in the dark by the

shop. It would seem to me that a shop would tell you what happened and not that he fixed the transmission and saved manny.

i was put in the twilight zone for no reason at all. That was just one of the many problems i had. fini.

If you stick ini first, check the vacuum tube to the bottom of the transmission and see if it has slipped off the tube leading into the

trans on the passenger side bottom middle area.

mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.


On Aug 5, 2013, at 9:20 AM, James Hupy wrote:

> Gary, if your transmission will not upshift, it is usually a vacuum
> problem..Check the line to the Modulator from the manifold first. Then all
> other vacuum lines and include the carb base.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 Gmc Royale 403
> On Aug 5, 2013 9:15 AM, "Gary Berry" <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ken;
>>
>> Can't have the Stretch down that long. I have a trip planned next
>> week to the Oregon Coast. I've ordered a new one from Tweetys and it
>> will be here Thursday. They said that they order straight from
>> Progressive Dynamics so there is no problem with serial numbers (of
>> course, this is what they say...). I still have to fix the "not
>> getting out of 1st gear" problem...
>> --
>> Gary and Diana Berry
>> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why don't you just send the one you have in to be fixed?
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #218309 is a reply to message #216815] Wed, 14 August 2013 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey All;

Got my new PD9140A yesterday and just installed it. Looks like it's
working. Appears to have a valid serial number. Cost me $122.70 ($136.80
with shipping (Tweetys RV via Amazon)). Thanks for all of the help and
information. My batteries should now be happy, happy, happy.
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #218377 is a reply to message #218309] Wed, 14 August 2013 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speaking of batteries and chargers, I filled my house and motor batteries
last February; coach has been up on blocks and plugged in since. Just
checked the fluids again, took over a gallon of water just for the house
batteries (2 six volt golf cart). I am running a Truecharge 40 charger.
which I installed new in 2000. I have a new PD9260 (or something like
that) that I will swap with the Truecharge unit later this year. Why would
all that water disappear??
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR (will be in Oregon within 24 hours).


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey All;
>
> Got my new PD9140A yesterday and just installed it. Looks like it's
> working. Appears to have a valid serial number. Cost me $122.70 ($136.80
> with shipping (Tweetys RV via Amazon)). Thanks for all of the help and
> information. My batteries should now be happy, happy, happy.
> --
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> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #218379 is a reply to message #218377] Wed, 14 August 2013 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what are the voltages?
something is boiling it out

gene


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Jerry Wheeler <jrwheeler7@gmail.com> wrote:

> Speaking of batteries and chargers, I filled my house and motor batteries
> last February; coach has been up on blocks and plugged in since. Just
> checked the fluids again, took over a gallon of water just for the house
> batteries (2 six volt golf cart). I am running a Truecharge 40 charger.
> which I installed new in 2000. I have a new PD9260 (or something like
> that) that I will swap with the Truecharge unit later this year. Why would
> all that water disappear??
> JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR (will be in Oregon within 24 hours).
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey All;
> >
> > Got my new PD9140A yesterday and just installed it. Looks like it's
> > working. Appears to have a valid serial number. Cost me $122.70 ($136.80
> > with shipping (Tweetys RV via Amazon)). Thanks for all of the help and
> > information. My batteries should now be happy, happy, happy.
> > --
> > Gary and Diana Berry
> > 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #218380 is a reply to message #218309] Wed, 14 August 2013 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Gary Berry wrote:

> Got my new PD9140A yesterday and just installed it.

I take it that the fuses in your old/defective unit were OK and the failure was internal?


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1977 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #218389 is a reply to message #218377] Wed, 14 August 2013 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Wheeler wrote on Wed, 14 August 2013 20:15

Speaking of batteries and chargers, I filled my house and motor batteries last February; coach has been up on blocks and plugged in since. Just checked the fluids again, took over a gallon of water just for the house batteries (2 six volt golf cart). I am running a Truecharge 40 charger which I installed new in 2000. I have a new PD9260 (or something like that) that I will swap with the Truecharge unit later this year. Why would all that water disappear??
That 13 year old charger boiled it out. You want to swap to the PD9260 sooner rather than later. Like now.
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I have had a Statpower TrueCharge 40+ since 1998 and have never had any issues with the unit. I just check my batteries today after not being checked for at least 8 months and the water level was only down about 3/8 of an inch. I used to service the batteries about every 5 or 6 months, but over the years have found that once a year works for me. I got 8 years out of my first set of batteries and changed them only because they started to show weakness and I was planning on some dry camping.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:50 PM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> Jerry Wheeler wrote on Wed, 14 August 2013 20:15
>> Speaking of batteries and chargers, I filled my house and motor batteries last February; coach has been up on blocks and plugged in since. Just checked the fluids again, took over a gallon of water just for the house batteries (2 six volt golf cart). I am running a Truecharge 40 charger which I installed new in 2000. I have a new PD9260 (or something like that) that I will swap with the Truecharge unit later this year. Why would all that water disappear??
> That 13 year old charger boiled it out. You want to swap to the PD9260 sooner rather than later. Like now.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Inteli-Power PD9140A KaPut... [message #218402 is a reply to message #218377] Thu, 15 August 2013 00:57 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Jerry Wheeler wrote on Wed, 14 August 2013 20:15

Speaking of batteries and chargers, I filled my house and motor batteries
last February; coach has been up on blocks and plugged in since. Just
checked the fluids again, took over a gallon of water just for the house
batteries (2 six volt golf cart). I am running a Truecharge 40 charger.
which I installed new in 2000. I have a new PD9260 (or something like
that) that I will swap with the Truecharge unit later this year. Why would
all that water disappear??
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR (will be in Oregon within 24 hours).





The simple answer is the batteries were over charged and boiled an excessive amount of the electrolyte away. Get rid of that Truecharge or do not leave it plugged it in when the coach is not in use.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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