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My wife and i have been searching for our new gmc and have come across this unit in Louisville




Not sure if the link is working so i here is the URL

http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/

for our purposes of shipping to Australia the rear opening hatch means we wont have to relocate the door
we will have to build a bed shower toilet and table but we think a new interior will be easier than dealing with exterior mods.

does anybody know this vehicle and have an opinion

thanks
trevor


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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213868 is a reply to message #213856] Wed, 10 July 2013 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A great tailgating vehicle. Looks like way more than $17k put into it...

Dan in NC
1976 Eleganza II

On 7/10/2013 3:18 AM, Trevor Pordage wrote:
>
> My wife and i have been searching for our new gmc and have come across this unit in Louisville
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/
>
>
> Not sure if the link is working so i here is the URL
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/
>
> for our purposes of shipping to Australia the rear opening hatch means we wont have to relocate the door
> we will have to build a bed shower toilet and table but we think a new interior will be easier than dealing with exterior mods.
>
> does anybody know this vehicle and have an opinion
>
> thanks
> trevor
>

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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213874 is a reply to message #213856] Wed, 10 July 2013 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Trevor,
It appears to be a good deal. If you plan on doing the interior to your own taste then I would try and have someone in the area look. JR Slaten lives in Looaville, that how he pronounces it. He doesn't follow the net very often. He can be reached at jrslaten@aol.com. His phone is five 0 two-8 three six-two 0 nine 7. He should be able to help you out.

JR Wright
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 3:18 AM, Trevor Pordage <junk@cadelec.com.au> wrote:

>
>
> My wife and i have been searching for our new gmc and have come across this unit in Louisville
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/
>
>
> Not sure if the link is working so i here is the URL
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/
>
> for our purposes of shipping to Australia the rear opening hatch means we wont have to relocate the door
> we will have to build a bed shower toilet and table but we think a new interior will be easier than dealing with exterior mods.
>
> does anybody know this vehicle and have an opinion
>
> thanks
> trevor
>
> --
> Trevor
> Brisbane Australia
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213875 is a reply to message #213868] Wed, 10 July 2013 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like the design myself, with the top escape route and view. Very bold design. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach,



On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Daniel Jarvis wrote:

> A great tailgating vehicle. Looks like way more than $17k put into it...
>
> Dan in NC
> 1976 Eleganza II
>
> On 7/10/2013 3:18 AM, Trevor Pordage wrote:
>>
>> My wife and i have been searching for our new gmc and have come across this unit in Louisville
>>
>> http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/
>>
>>
>> Not sure if the link is working so i here is the URL
>>
>> http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/
>>
>> for our purposes of shipping to Australia the rear opening hatch means we wont have to relocate the door
>> we will have to build a bed shower toilet and table but we think a new interior will be easier than dealing with exterior mods.
>>
>> does anybody know this vehicle and have an opinion
>>
>> thanks
>> trevor
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213879 is a reply to message #213875] Wed, 10 July 2013 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't see any reference to a topside access. The escape route out the back is neat, though!


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> From: mickeysss@me.com
> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:22:04 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale
>
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> I like the design myself, with the top escape route and view. Very bold design. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach,
>
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> On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Daniel Jarvis wrote:
>
> > A great tailgating vehicle. Looks like way more than $17k put into it...
> >
> > Dan in NC
> > 1976 Eleganza II
> >
> > On 7/10/2013 3:18 AM, Trevor Pordage wrote:
> >>
> >> My wife and i have been searching for our new gmc and have come across this unit in Louisville
> >>
> >> http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/
> >>
> >> for our purposes of shipping to Australia the rear opening hatch means we wont have to relocate the door
> >> we will have to build a bed shower toilet and table but we think a new interior will be easier than dealing with exterior mods.
> >>
> >> does anybody know this vehicle and have an opinion
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> trevor

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Re: opinions on rv for sale [message #213880 is a reply to message #213856] Wed, 10 July 2013 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Perhaps the rear hatch will allow licensing the coach in Australia, but it won't really be much of a virtue when/if the coach is converted back to a "liveable coach" (unless you want a full-size hatch as part of your bedroom - along with the leaks that would likely come with it). And even if you re-seal the rear hatch, you will be entering/exiting the coach from the wrong (street) side from then on.

To me, it seems that it would be preferable to find a more liveable coach in great mechanical condition as a starting point, unless you plan to gut anything you buy and start over (intriguing, but costly). A lot of the value with the Louisville coach is in the toy hauler conversion, which (correct me if I'm wrong) will actually be a detriment to rebuilding this coach up to its final configuration.

Not to mention Louisville isn't too close to any shipping point...


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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213883 is a reply to message #213879] Wed, 10 July 2013 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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k2gkk wrote on Wed, 10 July 2013 07:33

I didn't see any reference to a topside access. The escape route out the back is neat, though!



It is odd that the topside access wasn't mentioned, but Mickey picked up on it. I had to go back and look. The roof deck railing opening is at the front, and there's a ladder visible through the window going up through the enlarged AC framed opening.

Richard


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Re: opinions on rv for sale [message #213884 is a reply to message #213856] Wed, 10 July 2013 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cadelec wrote on Wed, 10 July 2013 02:18


for our purposes of shipping to Australia the rear opening hatch means we wont have to relocate the door
we will have to build a bed shower toilet and table but we think a new interior will be easier than dealing with exterior mods.

does anybody know this vehicle and have an opinion





Oh, EVERYBODY has an opinion,

That is a very cool coach for its intended purpose but you gotta' really love diamond plate.

Will you make an extended trip to the States for your final purchase?

Do i understand correctly that the entrance door has to be on the left? Do you have to convert to right hand drive also?

If i were in your situation i would start with Jim K in California or Jim B in Florida and get a price for the door conversion and get one of them to help help you find a coach in their area.

The door conversion might not be so bad if you can leave the existing and get a donor for the other side, which either of the jims is likely to have.


Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213887 is a reply to message #213856] Wed, 10 July 2013 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Trev,

The rear door may not cut it, NevilleC out in WA added a door there but someone else wanted to do that and the authorities in that
state said it was too far from the driver seat.

Regards,
Rob M.


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My wife and i have been searching for our new gmc and have come across this unit in Louisville

http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/


Not sure if the link is working so i here is the URL

http://www.gmcmotorhomesforsale.com/forsale/KY/louisville/3660683975/

for our purposes of shipping to Australia the rear opening hatch means we wont have to relocate the door
we will have to build a bed shower toilet and table but we think a new interior will be easier than dealing with exterior mods.

does anybody know this vehicle and have an opinion

thanks
trevor

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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213892 is a reply to message #213884] Wed, 10 July 2013 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave,

FYI modifications to vehicles in Australia must be reviewed and meet AUSTRALIAN regulations.

Converting to RHD in New South Wales must be overseen by an engineer with a degree in automotive engineering that holds a "ticket"
to approve said modification.

If you add a second door you loose approximately 24 inches of wall / floor space which is at a premium in a GMC.

Regards,
Rob


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Oh, EVERYBODY has an opinion,

That is a very cool coach for its intended purpose but you gotta' really love diamond plate.

Will you make an extended trip to the States for your final purchase?

Do i understand correctly that the entrance door has to be on the left? Do you have to convert to right hand drive also?

If i were in your situation i would start with Jim K in California or Jim B in Florida and get a price for the door conversion and
get one of them to help help you find a coach in their area.

The door conversion might not be so bad if you can leave the existing and get a donor for the other side, which either of the jims
is likely to have.
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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213900 is a reply to message #213892] Wed, 10 July 2013 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like that machine. Someone in that area knows that coach. It has the Rockwell intake on the new engine so owner is familiar with our group. Bet he buys parts from Jim K. I would contact JR, as mentioned, or Byron. One of those two will know that one.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213908 is a reply to message #213892] Wed, 10 July 2013 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Wed, 10 July 2013 10:25

Dave,

FYI modifications to vehicles in Australia must be reviewed and meet AUSTRALIAN regulations.

Converting to RHD in New South Wales must be overseen by an engineer with a degree in automotive engineering that holds a "ticket"
to approve said modification.

If you add a second door you loose approximately 24 inches of wall / floor space which is at a premium in a GMC.

Regards,
Rob



Well, I suppose if i was actually in his situation i would have known that. Smile



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Re: opinions on rv for sale [message #213911 is a reply to message #213856] Wed, 10 July 2013 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not sure if I would want to travel accross the US without a bathroom. one of the best parts of having a motorhome is to have your own bathroom when you are needed, and the family needs it.

I would think the cost of installing a bathroom, would be equal to moving or adding a door?



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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #213927 is a reply to message #213892] Wed, 10 July 2013 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Wed, 10 July 2013 08:25

Dave,

FYI modifications to vehicles in Australia must be reviewed and meet AUSTRALIAN regulations.

Converting to RHD in New South Wales must be overseen by an engineer with a degree in automotive engineering that holds a "ticket"
to approve said modification.

If you add a second door you loose approximately 24 inches of wall / floor space which is at a premium in a GMC.

Regards,
Rob





Rob,

What would happen if you had the modifications done here in the US (by Jim Bounds, maybe) and THEN shipped it to Australia? Would it still need to be certified by an engineer?

That might be an easier way to do it.


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Re: [GMCnet] opinions on rv for sale [message #214001 is a reply to message #213887] Thu, 11 July 2013 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 11 July 2013 01:17

Trev,

The rear door may not cut it, NevilleC out in WA added a door there but someone else wanted to do that and the authorities in that
state said it was too far from the driver seat.

According to QLD transport question 7 is

Does the vehicle have an outward facing or sliding door on the left hand side of the vehicle?

Note The door must allow a normal size person to easily enter or exit the living cabin of the vehicle without use of external fixtures and must be free of impediments

Here is a link 

  
we will either get it registered first and then do the interior or place a beed each side in the rear and leave between them free to exit in an emergency .

we dont plan on using this door at all it is just to satisfy the rego requirements




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Carl S. wrote on Thu, 11 July 2013 04:59

Robert Mueller wrote on Wed, 10 July 2013 08:25

Dave,

FYI modifications to vehicles in Australia must be reviewed and meet AUSTRALIAN regulations.

Converting to RHD in New South Wales must be overseen by an engineer with a degree in automotive engineering that holds a "ticket"
to approve said modification.

If you add a second door you loose approximately 24 inches of wall / floor space which is at a premium in a GMC.

Regards,
Rob





Rob,

What would happen if you had the modifications done here in the US (by Jim Bounds, maybe) and THEN shipped it to Australia? Would it still need to be certified by an engineer?

That might be an easier way to do it.


from my discussions with an engineer
he will charge around $2000 due to the age of the vehicle i can carry out the work my self but i need to document and he needs to see the conversion at various stages.
If i get the GVM reduced to 4500 KG i only need a car licence to drive this and then as the vehicle is over 30 years old it classifies as a special interest vehicle therefore i can leave it LHD

if the work was carreied out overseas if there were photos taken and documentation to back up the photos we will be able to get it engineered.


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lqqkatjon wrote on Thu, 11 July 2013 02:48

not sure if I would want to travel accross the US without a bathroom. one of the best parts of having a motorhome is to have your own bathroom when you are needed, and the family needs it.

I would think the cost of installing a bathroom, would be equal to moving or adding a door?




have though about that but last trip was in a conversion van
porta potties are only 150 dollars for night time convenience.

we are used to these inconveniences out here .


Trevor Brisbane Australia Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores) 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
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habbyguy wrote on Thu, 11 July 2013 00:43



Not to mention Louisville isn't too close to any shipping point...


we will have about a month of holiday when we fly over to pick up

we have found a cheap flights Brisbane to FIJI 4 hours stay a few days
Fiji to LA 8 hours
LA to St Louis or Dallas
rent a car have a look around take a 3-5 days to get to Louisville
then go for a drive
drop off at a port either new york
or LA we don't care where we go
Fly home Direct 13 hours

we are flexible with our travel destinations it will all depend on where we purchase a vehicle


Trevor Brisbane Australia Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores) 71 Cadillac Eldo Convert 58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
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cadelec wrote on Thu, 11 July 2013 03:18


from my discussions with an engineer
he will charge around $2000 due to the age of the vehicle i can carry out the work my self but i need to document and he needs to see the conversion at various stages.
If i get the GVM reduced to 4500 KG i only need a car licence to drive this and then as the vehicle is over 30 years old it classifies as a special interest vehicle therefore i can leave it LHD

if the work was carreied out overseas if there were photos taken and documentation to back up the photos we will be able to get it engineered.



I wonder how much that coach weighs? They pulled a bunch of stuff out, but they added a lot, too. You might be ripping off a lot of the expensive and best features of that already-once-converted coach to modify it to conform to Australian regulations, and to get it down under the weight limit you mentioned.

Considering that the rear hatch and skydeck do nothing to aid in that conversion - the main issue is the left hand door, right? - wouldn't a more stock GMC with all of the conveniences already in place be an easier and cheaper modification? Then it's "just" swapping the dinette/bed and door.

I guess what I'm asking is whether there are other reasons that that coach does it for you. Why choose that one over a more standard and fully stocked coach?

Richard


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Bobby Moore coach for sale has the layout that would allow the left hand door...behind the driver's seat...this may be the one you have been waiting for...
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=26846&start=0&rid=2526



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