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Tue, 11 June 2013 12:41  |
Keith V
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I've seen a couple of coaches with thicker front and added rear sway bars.
Anyone want to shrae their opinion of them?
I think I'd really like a stiffer front bar, but I like a lot of roll stiffness in front.
Thanks!
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
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| Re: [GMCnet] Sway bars [message #210696 is a reply to message #210695] |
Tue, 11 June 2013 12:54  |
James Hupy
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Keith, with the reaction arm rear brakes, you have included in the package
two additional sway bars in the rear. If you install the disc system
reaction arms, you might not need a larger front sway bar. I have driven
coaches both ways. The reaction arm set up with disc brakes, sway bars,
Quadra Bags, and 1 ton front end that is at proper ride height and
alignment will handle like a bowling ball going down a mail chute. I really
like the way they perform. If all the bushings are urethane, it might be a
tad bit harsh for some who expect a boulevard type ride. Just my take on
it. Other opinions may vary.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I've seen a couple of coaches with thicker front and added rear sway bars.
> Anyone want to shrae their opinion of them?
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> I think I'd really like a stiffer front bar, but I like a lot of roll
> stiffness in front.
>
> Thanks!
>
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| Re: Sway bars [message #210697 is a reply to message #210695] |
Tue, 11 June 2013 13:10 |
rcjordan
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>The reaction arm set up with disc brakes, sway bars, Quadra Bags, and 1 ton front end that is at proper ride height and alignment will handle like a bowling ball going down a mail chute. I really like the way they perform.
Jim, what ride height do you like best for the above equipped gmc? I,too, prefer the front end to be stiff.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Sway bars [message #210699 is a reply to message #210697] |
Tue, 11 June 2013 13:33 |
James Hupy
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R. C., MOST COACHES drive very well at exact ride height as per factory
recommendations. I prefer the front end with 0 degrees camber, 3 to 4
degrees caster. ( make sure that both sides are the same caster) , and no
more than 1/16" toe in.On the rear, make sure that both wheel mounting
flanges on the hubs are parallel to the frame and each other. Shims are the
only provision for camber adjustment on the rear. I try to stay pretty much
with 0 degrees on the rear. If it tries to rut wander with the rear, check
the wear in the bogie pins and bushings, as well as axial play there. Some
people prefer to have the rear ride height higher when in town to help keep
the rear from scraping in intersections and driveways. If you leave it
high, when on the hiway, buffeting from trucks and crosswinds will be more
pronounced, because of the loss of caster. Just what I have found. Your
experience may differ.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Jun 11, 2013 11:10 AM, "RC Jordan" <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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> >The reaction arm set up with disc brakes, sway bars, Quadra Bags, and 1
> ton front end that is at proper ride height and alignment will handle like
> a bowling ball going down a mail chute. I really like the way they perform.
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> Jim, what ride height do you like best for the above equipped gmc? I,too,
> prefer the front end to be stiff.
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| Re: Sway bars [message #210720 is a reply to message #210695] |
Tue, 11 June 2013 16:27 |
Carl S.
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| Keith V wrote on Tue, 11 June 2013 10:41 |
I've seen a couple of coaches with thicker front and added rear sway bars.
Anyone want to shrae their opinion of them?
I think I'd really like a stiffer front bar, but I like a lot of roll stiffness in front.
Thanks!
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Keith,
Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn here, but control arm refurbisher Steve F. doesn't recommend the larger front sway bars. In his opinion, they put too much stress on the mounting ears and cause/contribute to, breakage of the ear where the link attaches to the lower control arm.
I have the Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm brakes, which employ rear sway bars as part of the system, and I like the way the coach handles as a result of having those (lightweight) bars installed. They have not affected suspension adjustments at campsites. I am still able to utilize the full range of travel.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Sway bars [message #210734 is a reply to message #210695] |
Tue, 11 June 2013 19:32 |
habbyguy
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I have only a limited amount of experience driving GMCs other than my own, but mine has two large rear swaybars mounted (thanks to my generous PO), and it corners flatter than any motorhome I've ever seen. Really, it's more like a big minivan (oxymoron alert...) than anything, and the limitation to going around corners faster isn't lean, but things flying out of the cabinets.
I also installed a set of the Straight Track bogie devices (that keep the front wheels from self-steering the rear of the coach), and the effect was dramatic, especially on truck-rutted interstates, or recovering after dropping a rear wheel off the edge of the road.
After all that, AND working out a few issues with the steering, I'm very, very happy with the way my coach handles. I put people who've never driven any motorhome behind the wheel and they don't have any trouble at all (other than figuring out where they are in their lane, as you've all experienced at some time, no doubt).
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Sway bars [message #210758 is a reply to message #210734] |
Tue, 11 June 2013 22:30 |
jimk
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There are or were two HD front and rear Stabalizer bars.
Caspro had the very stiff one that really made camping on unlevel grounds
inposible.
I had them on in 1986
In 1998 I went with the ones we now supply that is lot more flexable but
effective.
When it comes to side blast of wind, they make lot of diferance.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Mark <mark@habcycles.com> wrote:
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> I have only a limited amount of experience driving GMCs other than my own,
> but mine has two large rear swaybars mounted (thanks to my generous PO),
> and it corners flatter than any motorhome I've ever seen. Really, it's
> more like a big minivan (oxymoron alert...) than anything, and the
> limitation to going around corners faster isn't lean, but things flying out
> of the cabinets.
>
> I also installed a set of the Straight Track bogie devices (that keep the
> front wheels from self-steering the rear of the coach), and the effect was
> dramatic, especially on truck-rutted interstates, or recovering after
> dropping a rear wheel off the edge of the road.
>
> After all that, AND working out a few issues with the steering, I'm very,
> very happy with the way my coach handles. I put people who've never driven
> any motorhome behind the wheel and they don't have any trouble at all
> (other than figuring out where they are in their lane, as you've all
> experienced at some time, no doubt).
> --
> Mark Hickey
> Mesa, AZ
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Sway bars [message #210794 is a reply to message #210695] |
Wed, 12 June 2013 11:13 |
jhbridges
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Sirum put the one on the front of my 23' for the PO. It's huge. Like the way the coach handles, can't compare to one without.
--johnny
'76n 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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From: Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:41 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Sway bars
I've seen a couple of coaches with thicker front and added rear sway bars.
Anyone want to shrae their opinion of them?
I think I'd really like a stiffer front bar, but I like a lot of roll stiffness in front.
Thanks!
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Keith
69 Vette
29 Dodge
75 Royale GMC
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