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Sat, 08 June 2013 08:37  |
stick miller
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We are at Jekyll Island GA and I have possible engine problems. After leaving Panama City for the long trip across I-10 I began hearing what I thought was a muffler leaking. Pulled off but couldn't see anything. Engine was way too hot to fool with. Over the course of the 5 hour trip the noise got worse to the point of embarrassment.
I don't expect a diagnosis over the telephone but I would solicit your suggestions for some possible self diagnosis AND any recommendations for someone down this way to help me out.
Anyone ever heard of Xtreme RV in Hortense (waynesville) ga?
I can be reached at two 29- ninethree8 zero zero 68.
Thanks. Stick miller
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210329 is a reply to message #210312] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 10:58  |
powerjon
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Stick,
Just going to take a SWAG on your noise as I have had to fix this type problem that got worse the longer it went. I believe that you may be the victim of an exhaust leak either where the header and or manifold and the head match up or the exhaust donut. Does it get louder under load and go away or get softer when you get up to speed? When you take your foot of the gas does it have a mild backfire sometimes? Take a flashlight and look at the matching point where the header or manifold are bolted to the head and you may see the gasket pushed out or missing or a dark exhaust streak. After you have let the motor cool down, start it and feel just above the mating surface and you can feel the leak. If this is the case you can drive it home and it will be noisy. The cure will be new header or exhaust manifold gasket. I recommend the Reflex gaskets. http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/670
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
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> We are at Jekyll Island GA and I have possible engine problems. After leaving Panama City for the long trip across I-10 I began hearing what I thought was a muffler leaking. Pulled off but couldn't see anything. Engine was way too hot to fool with. Over the course of the 5 hour trip the noise got worse to the point of embarrassment.
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> I don't expect a diagnosis over the telephone but I would solicit your suggestions for some possible self diagnosis AND any recommendations for someone down this way to help me out.
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> Anyone ever heard of Xtreme RV in Hortense (waynesville) ga?
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> I can be reached at two 29- ninethree8 zero zero 68.
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> Thanks. Stick miller
> --
> Stick Miller
> '78 Royale - she left me for another man
> '76 Eleganza
> Americus, Georgia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210338 is a reply to message #210329] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 12:40 |
stick miller
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Hole in muffler bottom. Headed home
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210363 is a reply to message #210338] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 16:24 |
kerry pinkerton
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| Stick Miller wrote on Sat, 08 June 2013 12:40 |
Hole in muffler bottom. Headed home
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Great news. Probably way too late but a VERY SHORT TERM fix to quieten down the passenger and muffler is the 'muffler repair tape' that you can find at any chain auto parts store by the muffler clamps and such. Won't last but a few hundred miles but might make the trip a bit more pleasant.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210385 is a reply to message #210338] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 18:38 |
Carl S.
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| Stick Miller wrote on Sat, 08 June 2013 10:40 |
Hole in muffler bottom. Headed home
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I had the same thing happen back in January. At first I was afraid it might be an engine problem, but it soon became obvious what it was. I ordered and installed one of Jim K's 3" mandrel bent exhaust systems, and the coach runs and sounds better than ever.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210465 is a reply to message #210338] |
Sun, 09 June 2013 12:53 |
jhbridges
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Cool. If they still sell Gun Gum <tm> get some, a piece of tin, and a couple band clamps and it's good as new - until another hole appears sopmeplace else :)
The Flowmasters work nicely and sound good in the bargain.
--johnny
From: Stick Miller <stickmiller@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems
Hole in muffler bottom. Headed home
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Stick Miller
'78 Royale - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza
Americus, Georgia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210519 is a reply to message #210465] |
Sun, 09 June 2013 20:19 |
stick miller
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I got home. I'm going to the muffler shop in the morning. I have a suspicion both will need replacement.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210549 is a reply to message #210519] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 04:38 |
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mike miller
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| Stick Miller wrote on Sun, 09 June 2013 18:19 |
I got home. I'm going to the muffler shop in the morning. I have a suspicion both will need replacement.
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Good idea.
If the outsides are rusting the insides are also. Not replacing both could leave you open for other issues.
To Explain:
In an OEM set-up, if a baffle comes loose and causes restriction in one muffler, the extra pressure will cause (more) exhaust to flow through the crossover heating it up MUCH more than it should be.
If the crossover is blocked or there is a single muffler (both non-OEM) a blocked muffle might cause other issues but not "over heated crossover."
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210574 is a reply to message #210573] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 10:42 |
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Don't know if anyone has piped up or this post of yours or not as much of the emails from the gmc net have been going into my spam folder. The foam in the Pig is 1" fwiw
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Stick,
>
> Your '77 Eleganza should have the following sandwich for a floor (top to bottom)
>
> Carpet or vinyl
> Plywood (3/4" or 1" I can't remember)
> Foam (3/4")
> Aluminum sheet
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> Early coaches had:
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> Carpet/vinyl
> Plywood
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gene Fisher
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> be sure to put al plate between muffler and wood floor
> changed my 2 gmc's to single rear mufflers
>
> good luck
> gene
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Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210579 is a reply to message #210575] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 11:17 |
sgltrac
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Rob, all of your posts end up in my spam. Gotta figure out how to fix that on my I phone. :/
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:50 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Todd,
>
> I have noticed that quite often I don't get copies of the emails I send to the GMCnet, however, when I check the Forum they are
> there.
>
> Shouda noted:
>
> Foam (3/4" or 1" I can't remember)
>
> ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Sullivan
>
> Don't know if anyone has piped up or this post of yours or not as much of the emails from the gmc net have been going into my spam
> folder. The foam in the Pig is 1" fwiw
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210581 is a reply to message #210579] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 11:27 |
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Hi, Sully and all.
I don't know how gmail is set up and what options are available,
but if I add any sender's email address to my address book, then
whatever comes in from that sender goes directly to my inbox.
That is part of my setup in what is named an "Exclusive" mode
where any mail from an address that is not in my address book
or is not specifically identified as "Not Spam" goes to Junk Mail.
Hope this helps you and possibly others.
And I'm sorry, but I don't know what changed in HoTMaiL when
Microsoft did its latest "improvement" but my texts all seem to
come out double spaced. I have no idea as to how to stop that!
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> From: sgltrac@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:17:36 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems
>
> Rob, all of your posts end up in my spam. Gotta figure out how to fix that on my I phone. :/
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:50 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Todd,
> >
> > I have noticed that quite often I don't get copies of the emails I send to the GMCnet, however, when I check the Forum they are
> > there.
> >
> > Shouda noted:
> >
> > Foam (3/4" or 1" I can't remember)
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Todd Sullivan
> >
> > Don't know if anyone has piped up or this post of yours or not as much of the emails from the gmc net have been going into my spam
> > folder. The foam in the Pig is 1" fwiw
> >
> > Sully
> > 77 royale
> > Seattle
> >
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210583 is a reply to message #210581] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 11:38 |
sgltrac
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Thanks Mac, I was just checking out the gmail help page when you sent this message. Apparently all gmcnet emails from
Rob
Dan
Gene
Ken B
And a few others have been going to spam for some time. I think it's an issue with my phone. I added the above and some others that were in my spam folder to my contacts and well see if that does the trick. I thought it had been a bit quiet for awhile ;)
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
Todd Sullivan
On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:27 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Sully and all.
>
>
> I don't know how gmail is set up and what options are available,
>
> but if I add any sender's email address to my address book, then
>
> whatever comes in from that sender goes directly to my inbox.
>
>
>
> That is part of my setup in what is named an "Exclusive" mode
>
> where any mail from an address that is not in my address book
>
> or is not specifically identified as "Not Spam" goes to Junk Mail.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps you and possibly others.
>
>
>
> And I'm sorry, but I don't know what changed in HoTMaiL when
>
> Microsoft did its latest "improvement" but my texts all seem to
>
> come out double spaced. I have no idea as to how to stop that!
>
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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>> From: sgltrac@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:17:36 -0700
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems
>>
>> Rob, all of your posts end up in my spam. Gotta figure out how to fix that on my I phone. :/
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 royale
>> Seattle
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:50 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Todd,
>>>
>>> I have noticed that quite often I don't get copies of the emails I send to the GMCnet, however, when I check the Forum they are
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Shouda noted:
>>>
>>> Foam (3/4" or 1" I can't remember)
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rob M.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Todd Sullivan
>>>
>>> Don't know if anyone has piped up or this post of yours or not as much of the emails from the gmc net have been going into my spam
>>> folder. The foam in the Pig is 1" fwiw
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> 77 royale
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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77 Royale basket case.
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems [message #210584 is a reply to message #210583] |
Mon, 10 June 2013 12:02 |
k2gkk
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Hotmail has a lot of helpful (IMNHO) features that I like.
When it comes up, a list of "folders" shows. Most of these
are ones I have created (there is a limit, which I have
reached). However, there are a few that are "standard"
that come with the program: Inbox, Junk, Drafts, Sent, and
Deleted which are the top of the list displayed on the left
side of the monitor screen. The number of "unread" messages
in each Folder is displayed. I go to the "Junk" folder when
a number shows up there. I can then read the messages,
decide to add the sender address, simply delete, or even
report a message as a phishing attempt (I do that a lot!).
My big problem now is that Microsoft seems to always assume
that its users have the latest operating system, biggest
amount of hard memory, and fastest possible Internet connection.
Various processes in the email program are now taking much
longer to accomplish than previously. Maybe (I hope) M.S.
is working thebugs out!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> CC: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: sgltrac@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:38:32 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems
>
> Thanks Mac, I was just checking out the gmail help page when you sent this message. Apparently all gmcnet emails from
> Rob
> Dan
> Gene
> Ken B
> And a few others have been going to spam for some time. I think it's an issue with my phone. I added the above and some others that were in my spam folder to my contacts and well see if that does the trick. I thought it had been a bit quiet for awhile ;)
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
>
> Todd Sullivan
>
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:27 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Sully and all.
> >
> > I don't know how gmail is set up and what options are available,
> > but if I add any sender's email address to my address book, then
> > whatever comes in from that sender goes directly to my inbox.
> >
> > That is part of my setup in what is named an "Exclusive" mode
> > where any mail from an address that is not in my address book
> > or is not specifically identified as "Not Spam" goes to Junk Mail.
> >
> > Hope this helps you and possibly others.
> >
> > And I'm sorry, but I don't know what changed in HoTMaiL when
> > Microsoft did its latest "improvement" but my texts all seem to
> > come out double spaced. I have no idea as to how to stop that!
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> >
> >
> >> From: sgltrac@gmail.com
> >> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:17:36 -0700
> >> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Possible engine problems
> >>
> >> Rob, all of your posts end up in my spam. Gotta figure out how to fix that on my I phone. :/
> >>
> >> Sully
> >> 77 royale
> >> Seattle
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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. the foam has a very high autoignition point...600 degrees iirc. I used walker SoundFX mufflers in original position.