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Mon, 03 June 2013 06:55  |
Robin Hood
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http://youtu.be/Q-t94hHpL08
This weekend my wife and I worked on getting the Palm Beach up on blocks,
in preparation for brake work and new tires. The plan is to take the 16.5"
rims from the Royale since the Palm Beach is currently running on junkyard
rims, and put the aluminum Eagles from JimK onto the Royale.
Brakes on the Palm Beach are nearly nonexistent. Will bleed both coaches,
possibly put new calipers/shoes on, maybe mess with the rear brakes too.
Need to get a money order to James Hupy for his Amazing Bleed-O-Matic,
that'll go into the mail today.
Tom Phipps is going to come on Wednesday with his pickup truck, hopefully
the rims will be here by then, and I'll get the Firestone Transforce tires
mounted, and take the good rubber off the junkyard rims and onto the
Royale's old rims.
I am DEATHLY afraid of wasps, so I created a ridiculous "wasp proof suit".
We killed four nests and several individual wasps, and that was without
venturing inside. I'm wondering if I can get Terminex or some other pest
control company to put a tent around them and fog them into oblivion.
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Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209680 is a reply to message #209679] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 07:09  |
C Boyd
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Sir: soapy water will kill flying insects. A garden sprayer is the trick. Our friend Debbie had a huge yellow jacket nest under the siding of her house. She loaded up with Dawn and water and they dropped on contact. They breath thru their abdomen and it smothers them. Works on wasps, bees, any flying insect. Keep an old bottle of mean green loaded handy.
| Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 07:55 |
http://youtu.be/Q-t94hHpL08
This weekend my wife and I worked on getting the Palm Beach up on blocks,
in preparation for brake work and new tires. The plan is to take the 16.5"
rims from the Royale since the Palm Beach is currently running on junkyard
rims, and put the aluminum Eagles from JimK onto the Royale.
Brakes on the Palm Beach are nearly nonexistent. Will bleed both coaches,
possibly put new calipers/shoes on, maybe mess with the rear brakes too.
Need to get a money order to James Hupy for his Amazing Bleed-O-Matic,
that'll go into the mail today.
Tom Phipps is going to come on Wednesday with his pickup truck, hopefully
the rims will be here by then, and I'll get the Firestone Transforce tires
mounted, and take the good rubber off the junkyard rims and onto the
Royale's old rims.
I am DEATHLY afraid of wasps, so I created a ridiculous "wasp proof suit".
We killed four nests and several individual wasps, and that was without
venturing inside. I'm wondering if I can get Terminex or some other pest
control company to put a tent around them and fog them into oblivion.
--
Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209686 is a reply to message #209679] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 07:32 |
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Robin,
I am glad to see you went with Jim's pressure bleeder, having used vacuum AND pressure bleeders I GA-RON-TEE you've made the right
decision.
When you do pressure bleed / flush the brakes don't forget to suck the fluid that's in the M/C out and clean any muck that might be
in it before you put the bleeder on. I've used the blue high rag content paper towels and spray brake cleaner that Wal Mart sells
with great success. Make sure there's no brake cleaner left in the M/C before you connect the bleeder.
Also you might want to consider putting Equal tire balancing powder or bb's from Wal Mart in the tires instead of balancing them
with weights - IT WORKS!
Would one of those foggers you set in the middle of a room on a sheet of newspaper kill the wasps?
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Hood
http://youtu.be/Q-t94hHpL08
This weekend my wife and I worked on getting the Palm Beach up on blocks,
in preparation for brake work and new tires. The plan is to take the 16.5"
rims from the Royale since the Palm Beach is currently running on junkyard
rims, and put the aluminum Eagles from JimK onto the Royale.
Brakes on the Palm Beach are nearly nonexistent. Will bleed both coaches,
possibly put new calipers/shoes on, maybe mess with the rear brakes too.
Need to get a money order to James Hupy for his Amazing Bleed-O-Matic,
that'll go into the mail today.
Tom Phipps is going to come on Wednesday with his pickup truck, hopefully
the rims will be here by then, and I'll get the Firestone Transforce tires
mounted, and take the good rubber off the junkyard rims and onto the
Royale's old rims.
I am DEATHLY afraid of wasps, so I created a ridiculous "wasp proof suit".
We killed four nests and several individual wasps, and that was without
venturing inside. I'm wondering if I can get Terminex or some other pest
control company to put a tent around them and fog them into oblivion.
-
Robin
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209689 is a reply to message #209687] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 07:59 |
tphipps
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Forgers like a completely sealed room. Dangerous stuff to mess with. Garden sprayer with soapy water sounds like a good place to start. If mostly mud dabblers, they have no stinger as a attack weapon. I always dig their nests out.
Had a great one on the exhaust manifold, cooked those babies.
Jeff Serium place with his collection of GMC bodies has a great collection of mud dabber nests. Chucks barn has some also.
Paper wasps are another story. Very aggressive, defending their nest. That is for Wasp and Hornet spray. With the 20 ft range, you can attack them from a greater distance.
We shall see Weds.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209693 is a reply to message #209691] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 08:10 |
Robin Hood
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Well, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence from people without any ulterior
motives that argues in favor of balancing beads. I suppose it's possible
that there may be more going on in the system of vehicle/tire/road/beads
than may at first be apparent. Should be easy to test, though; just
unbalance the wheel with a weight, drive it, and meaure the vibration, then
pour in the beads and see if the vibration gets damped.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 05:38
> > ...
> >
> > From a physics standpoint, I don't see how BBs or tire balancing powder
> in
> > the tire would naturally balance a spinning tire. It would seem to me
> that
> > it would wind up off balance and more and more BBs accumulating at the
> > point most out of balance (where the centriugal force is greatest).
> >
> > ...
>
>
> Here are a few vids:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg>
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullnFQD4F1I>
>
> I have found the cheap lighter AirSoft plastic BB's work well for highway
> use rigs.... like our GMC's. (My theory is that the lighter ones find the
> balance at lower speeds and centrifugal forces.)
>
> I am NOT impressed with them for a "stop and go" use rig like my sidekick
> towd. When getting up to speed, you can feel the BB's shifting before
> smoothing out. While they do WORK... I think there might be value in the
> clumping agents in some of the commercial tire balancing beads.
>
> I suppose you do not get what you do not pay for. :roll:
>
>
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
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1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209697 is a reply to message #209693] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 09:00 |
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Robin,
I have been running Equal balancing powder in my Kumho Road Vantage KL-78.tires since Ken Frey put it in in 2007. I keep extra
sachets of the stuff in my spares so that if I have a flat I can replace it.
I only mentioned Air Soft BB's because a people here use them cause they're cheaper as Mike mentioned. I have NO experience with Air
Soft BB's or using this type of produce in Towds.
Here's a link to Equal's website if you want to read up on how it works: http://www.imiproducts.com/
Download the Quantity chart and you will note it says to use 3 oz in 225/75-16 tires, I would suggest you use 4 oz as that's what
Ken put in mine and it works well.
You can buy 4 oz bags from Meyer Tire Supply:
http://www.myerstiresupply.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=3783&info=Equal-Size-inchE-inch-4-oz-single-bag
Equal kits come with filtered Schrader valves, they will only fit in Haltec part number TV-553 valve stems (seal with a silicone
seal). I have absolutely NO idea if they will fit in any other valve stems from any other manufacturers.
The TV-553 valve stems are also available from Myer's Tire Supply
http://www.myerstiresupply.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=1356&info=Grommet-Seal-Valve-TV553
Regards,
Rob M.
PS - As I understand it the main useres of balancing powder are truckers, if the balancing powder didn't work why would they sell
it. Truckers aren't going to buy something that doesn't work.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Hood
Well, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence from people without any ulterior
motives that argues in favor of balancing beads. I suppose it's possible
that there may be more going on in the system of vehicle/tire/road/beads
than may at first be apparent. Should be easy to test, though; just
unbalance the wheel with a weight, drive it, and meaure the vibration, then
pour in the beads and see if the vibration gets damped.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 05:38
> > ...
> >
> > From a physics standpoint, I don't see how BBs or tire balancing powder
> in
> > the tire would naturally balance a spinning tire. It would seem to me
> that
> > it would wind up off balance and more and more BBs accumulating at the
> > point most out of balance (where the centriugal force is greatest).
> >
> > ...
>
>
> Here are a few vids:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg>
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullnFQD4F1I>
>
> I have found the cheap lighter AirSoft plastic BB's work well for highway
> use rigs.... like our GMC's. (My theory is that the lighter ones find the
> balance at lower speeds and centrifugal forces.)
>
> I am NOT impressed with them for a "stop and go" use rig like my sidekick
> towd. When getting up to speed, you can feel the BB's shifting before
> smoothing out. While they do WORK... I think there might be value in the
> clumping agents in some of the commercial tire balancing beads.
>
> I suppose you do not get what you do not pay for. :roll:
>
>
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
> http://m000035.blogspot.com
> _______________________________________________
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Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209698 is a reply to message #209697] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 09:04 |
Robin Hood
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I've seen enough counter-intuitive things in my life to know not to dismiss
it out-of-hand, so I'll give the airsoft pellets a try. :) The videos seem
to indicate there's SOMETHING going on that makes this work.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Robin,
>
> I have been running Equal balancing powder in my Kumho Road Vantage
> KL-78.tires since Ken Frey put it in in 2007. I keep extra
> sachets of the stuff in my spares so that if I have a flat I can replace
> it.
>
> I only mentioned Air Soft BB's because a people here use them cause
> they're cheaper as Mike mentioned. I have NO experience with Air
> Soft BB's or using this type of produce in Towds.
>
> Here's a link to Equal's website if you want to read up on how it works:
> http://www.imiproducts.com/
>
> Download the Quantity chart and you will note it says to use 3 oz in
> 225/75-16 tires, I would suggest you use 4 oz as that's what
> Ken put in mine and it works well.
>
> You can buy 4 oz bags from Meyer Tire Supply:
>
>
> http://www.myerstiresupply.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=3783&info=Equal-Size-inchE-inch-4-oz-single-bag
>
> Equal kits come with filtered Schrader valves, they will only fit in
> Haltec part number TV-553 valve stems (seal with a silicone
> seal). I have absolutely NO idea if they will fit in any other valve stems
> from any other manufacturers.
>
> The TV-553 valve stems are also available from Myer's Tire Supply
>
>
> http://www.myerstiresupply.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=1356&info=Grommet-Seal-Valve-TV553
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> PS - As I understand it the main useres of balancing powder are truckers,
> if the balancing powder didn't work why would they sell
> it. Truckers aren't going to buy something that doesn't work.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Hood
>
> Well, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence from people without any ulterior
> motives that argues in favor of balancing beads. I suppose it's possible
> that there may be more going on in the system of vehicle/tire/road/beads
> than may at first be apparent. Should be easy to test, though; just
> unbalance the wheel with a weight, drive it, and meaure the vibration, then
> pour in the beads and see if the vibration gets damped.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 05:38
> > > ...
> > >
> > > From a physics standpoint, I don't see how BBs or tire balancing powder
> > in
> > > the tire would naturally balance a spinning tire. It would seem to me
> > that
> > > it would wind up off balance and more and more BBs accumulating at the
> > > point most out of balance (where the centriugal force is greatest).
> > >
> > > ...
> >
> >
> > Here are a few vids:
> >
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg>
> >
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullnFQD4F1I>
> >
> > I have found the cheap lighter AirSoft plastic BB's work well for highway
> > use rigs.... like our GMC's. (My theory is that the lighter ones find
> the
> > balance at lower speeds and centrifugal forces.)
> >
> > I am NOT impressed with them for a "stop and go" use rig like my sidekick
> > towd. When getting up to speed, you can feel the BB's shifting before
> > smoothing out. While they do WORK... I think there might be value in the
> > clumping agents in some of the commercial tire balancing beads.
> >
> > I suppose you do not get what you do not pay for. :roll:
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> > (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77
> 23'
> > Birchaven Side Bath
> > http://m000035.blogspot.com
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Robin Hood
> Jackson, MS
> 2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209709 is a reply to message #209708] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 10:19 |
Robin Hood
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Exactly. For example, if you have a helium baloon on a string tied to the
dinette in your coach, and your make a hard right turn, you would expect
the baloon, like everyhing else, to lean to the left. What actually
happens, howeve,r is that the balloon leans to the RIGHT, which is
counterintuitive. You have to take "other factors" into consideration to
explain the behvior. It turns out that the air piling up in the left side
of the coach causes it to be denser, causing the balloon to float to the
right.
Another example is how your weight decreases, the farther below the surface
of the earth you get, which is contrary to the GMm/r-squared formula we
learned in high school physics. In proper calculus based college physics,
however, you learn to take into account the mass of the shell of material
above you, which cancels out and thus you only consider the mass of
whatever's between you and the center of mass.
*IF* the bead thing works, it's working due to some other factor that isn't
immediately obvious, and despite likeing to consider mysof fairly sharp
when it comes to physics, I've got NO idea what it is that makes this work.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:11 AM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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> Billy Massey wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 09:53
> > Centrifugal force.
> There is more to it than that. Centrifigal force would pull the heavy
> part of the tire out and the beads would settle there, making the
> out-of-balance situation worse, not better.
>
> That's why Robin said it was counterintuitive.
> --
>
> --
>
Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209719 is a reply to message #209709] |
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Ok, try centripetal force.
https://www.google.com/search?q=centripetal+force
Now please figure a simple explanation for us laymen.
bdub
-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of Robin Hood
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 10:20 AM
Exactly. For example, if you have a helium baloon on a string tied to the
dinette in your coach, and your make a hard right turn, you would expect the
baloon, like everyhing else, to lean to the left. What actually happens,
howeve,r is that the balloon leans to the RIGHT, which is counterintuitive.
You have to take "other factors" into consideration to explain the behvior.
It turns out that the air piling up in the left side of the coach causes it
to be denser, causing the balloon to float to the right.
Another example is how your weight decreases, the farther below the surface
of the earth you get, which is contrary to the GMm/r-squared formula we
learned in high school physics. In proper calculus based college physics,
however, you learn to take into account the mass of the shell of material
above you, which cancels out and thus you only consider the mass of
whatever's between you and the center of mass.
*IF* the bead thing works, it's working due to some other factor that isn't
immediately obvious, and despite likeing to consider mysof fairly sharp when
it comes to physics, I've got NO idea what it is that makes this work.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:11 AM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
> Billy Massey wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 09:53
> > Centrifugal force.
> There is more to it than that. Centrifigal force would pull the heavy
> part of the tire out and the beads would settle there, making the
> out-of-balance situation worse, not better.
>
> That's why Robin said it was counterintuitive.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen... [message #209720 is a reply to message #209698] |
Mon, 03 June 2013 11:04 |
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I tried a brand name tire balancing powder (don't recall which one) in one of my cars and hated the stuff. My opinion is that the tire balancing beads or Air Soft BB's will work for a vehicle that maintains a fairly constant highway speed, but it does not work for stop and go or slow speeds, especially on secondary roads with rough surfaces.
Conventional external tire balancing works well under all conditions, so i wont waste any more of my money or time on balancing beads when i know that external works for my type of conditions.
YMMV
Les Burt
Montreal
On 2013-06-03, at 10:04 AM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've seen enough counter-intuitive things in my life to know not to dismiss
> it out-of-hand, so I'll give the airsoft pellets a try. :) The videos seem
> to indicate there's SOMETHING going on that makes this work.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Robin,
>>
>> I have been running Equal balancing powder in my Kumho Road Vantage
>> KL-78.tires since Ken Frey put it in in 2007. I keep extra
>> sachets of the stuff in my spares so that if I have a flat I can replace
>> it.
>>
>> I only mentioned Air Soft BB's because a people here use them cause
>> they're cheaper as Mike mentioned. I have NO experience with Air
>> Soft BB's or using this type of produce in Towds.
>>
>> Here's a link to Equal's website if you want to read up on how it works:
>> http://www.imiproducts.com/
>>
>> Download the Quantity chart and you will note it says to use 3 oz in
>> 225/75-16 tires, I would suggest you use 4 oz as that's what
>> Ken put in mine and it works well.
>>
>> You can buy 4 oz bags from Meyer Tire Supply:
>>
>>
>> http://www.myerstiresupply.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=3783&info=Equal-Size-inchE-inch-4-oz-single-bag
>>
>> Equal kits come with filtered Schrader valves, they will only fit in
>> Haltec part number TV-553 valve stems (seal with a silicone
>> seal). I have absolutely NO idea if they will fit in any other valve stems
>> from any other manufacturers.
>>
>> The TV-553 valve stems are also available from Myer's Tire Supply
>>
>>
>> http://www.myerstiresupply.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=1356&info=Grommet-Seal-Valve-TV553
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>>
>> PS - As I understand it the main useres of balancing powder are truckers,
>> if the balancing powder didn't work why would they sell
>> it. Truckers aren't going to buy something that doesn't work.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robin Hood
>>
>> Well, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence from people without any ulterior
>> motives that argues in favor of balancing beads. I suppose it's possible
>> that there may be more going on in the system of vehicle/tire/road/beads
>> than may at first be apparent. Should be easy to test, though; just
>> unbalance the wheel with a weight, drive it, and meaure the vibration, then
>> pour in the beads and see if the vibration gets damped.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robin Hood wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 05:38
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> From a physics standpoint, I don't see how BBs or tire balancing powder
>>> in
>>>> the tire would naturally balance a spinning tire. It would seem to me
>>> that
>>>> it would wind up off balance and more and more BBs accumulating at the
>>>> point most out of balance (where the centriugal force is greatest).
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are a few vids:
>>>
>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg>
>>>
>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullnFQD4F1I>
>>>
>>> I have found the cheap lighter AirSoft plastic BB's work well for highway
>>> use rigs.... like our GMC's. (My theory is that the lighter ones find
>> the
>>> balance at lower speeds and centrifugal forces.)
>>>
>>> I am NOT impressed with them for a "stop and go" use rig like my sidekick
>>> towd. When getting up to speed, you can feel the BB's shifting before
>>> smoothing out. While they do WORK... I think there might be value in the
>>> clumping agents in some of the commercial tire balancing beads.
>>>
>>> I suppose you do not get what you do not pay for. :roll:
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77
>> 23'
>>> Birchaven Side Bath
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>>
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>> Robin Hood
>> Jackson, MS
>> 2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
>> 1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
>> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
>> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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jhbridges
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Registered: May 2011
Location: Braselton ga
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Welcom to the anti - wasp club. Take your EpiPen. IOur last house which the DOT got had a well house which had finished walls. A large hole or two allowed wasp nests in the walls a foot or two across in three of the four walls. I got a couple of fog bombs and tossed them in and shut the door. Aced the wasps out completely. I suppose you can still get them, they're an aerosol bomb which had a clip so when you press the sprayer it locks open and sprays till the thing is empty. You are warned to stay out of the treated area for like four hours, then air it out (I used a box fan) and then go in. They weren't expensive if you can still get them. For just a couple of wasps, knock-down spray works well, but it gets in your pocket. You can still get 50% Malathion at Homer the Despot, Spectracide puts it out among others. In a hand sprayer, it works well on wasps and other crunchbugs. We used to throw Toxaphene out of airplanes back in
The Day, but the EPA outlawed it many years ago. It was nasty stuff in the extreme, its only saving grace being it degraded fairly quickly in sunlight. I kept a couple gallons from my spraying days, but it's long used up now. A teaspoon full on a fire ant mound, and in the morning they're all wiped out.
Be careful.
--johnny
From: Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com>
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:55 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Raising the Barn Queen...
http://youtu.be/Q-t94hHpL08
This weekend my wife and I worked on getting the Palm Beach up on blocks,
in preparation for brake work and new tires. The plan is to take the 16.5"
rims from the Royale since the Palm Beach is currently running on junkyard
rims, and put the aluminum Eagles from JimK onto the Royale.
Brakes on the Palm Beach are nearly nonexistent. Will bleed both coaches,
possibly put new calipers/shoes on, maybe mess with the rear brakes too.
Need to get a money order to James Hupy for his Amazing Bleed-O-Matic,
that'll go into the mail today.
Tom Phipps is going to come on Wednesday with his pickup truck, hopefully
the rims will be here by then, and I'll get the Firestone Transforce tires
mounted, and take the good rubber off the junkyard rims and onto the
Royale's old rims.
I am DEATHLY afraid of wasps, so I created a ridiculous "wasp proof suit".
We killed four nests and several individual wasps, and that was without
venturing inside. I'm wondering if I can get Terminex or some other pest
control company to put a tent around them and fog them into oblivion.
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Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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