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[GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209159] Wed, 29 May 2013 14:48 Go to next message
Guy Lopes is currently offline  Guy Lopes   United States
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My new-to-me 76 Birch has new looking tires on it with only about 500 miles
since installed. Unfortunately they are eleven years old, so I am replacing
them.

I just checked with my local tire shop (where I have always taken all of my
vehicles) about new tires. They suggested Mesa Tires. I've never heard of
that brand, but was told that they are made by Cooper Tire right here in the
USA (one of my requirements). For a set of six 225/75R16s to go on my Alcoa
clones, including disposal fees, tax etc, the cost out the door is
$1,095.30. That seems reasonable to me, but I thought that I would ask if
anyone has good or bad experiences with Mesa?

Thanks,

Guy in Sacramento
76 Birchaven




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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209166 is a reply to message #209159] Wed, 29 May 2013 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Sumitomo Corporation makes the Mesa A/P brand of tires. The company filed for a U.S. trademark on the Mesa brand name on May 13, 2003. Founded in 1919, the Sumitomo Corporation has its headquarters in Tokyo, Japan.


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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209178 is a reply to message #209166] Wed, 29 May 2013 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Guy Lopes is currently offline  Guy Lopes   United States
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Well that settles that then! I stick to American made whenever I can. I
called the shop and talked to the owner. He apologized and said that the Big
O brand Big Foot HT (which is made by Cooper) is a little more expensive.
$1,276.68 out the door. It's worth the $200 difference to me. Plus it has a
3 year roadside hazard insurance, even for a nail through the sidewall!

Thanks Ken, in the future I will perform due diligence on my own instead of
taking someone's word for it.



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From Answerbag.com

The Sumitomo Corporation makes the Mesa A/P brand of tires. The company
filed for a U.S. trademark on the Mesa brand name on May 13, 2003. Founded
in 1919, the Sumitomo Corporation has its headquarters in Tokyo, Japan.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209181 is a reply to message #209178] Wed, 29 May 2013 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is awfully expensive IMHO. I bought 6 Deltas for $900 out the door. I would have bought cheaper Vietcong tires if I could have found them. I'll never wear them out.

Stick Miller
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209210 is a reply to message #209181] Wed, 29 May 2013 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your reference to "Vietcong tires" is a feeble attempt at humor; is in poor taste and offensive to guys like me, Viet Nam vets,
especially a couple of days after labor day.

Rob "who helped load wounded vets on the C-141 Medi-vac" M.


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That is awfully expensive IMHO. I bought 6 Deltas for $900 out the door. I would have bought cheaper Vietcong tires if I could have
found them. I'll never wear them out.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209211 is a reply to message #209181] Wed, 29 May 2013 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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I meant Memorial Day!

Regards,
Rob M.

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Your reference to "Vietcong tires" is a feeble attempt at humor; is in poor taste and offensive to guys like me, Viet Nam vets,
especially a couple of days after labor day.

Rob "who helped load wounded vets on the C-141 Medi-vac" M.

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From: Stick Miller

That is awfully expensive IMHO. I bought 6 Deltas for $900 out the door. I would have bought cheaper Vietcong tires if I could have
found them. I'll never wear them out.
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209218 is a reply to message #209211] Wed, 29 May 2013 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Geez I was gonna say... Is it September already?

Thanks for your service.  My father in law did 3 tours as a Marine.  Toughest guy I know.




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I meant Memorial Day!

Regards,
Rob M.

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Your reference to "Vietcong tires" is a feeble attempt at humor; is in poor taste and offensive to guys like me, Viet Nam vets,
especially a couple of days after labor day.

Rob "who helped load wounded vets on the C-141 Medi-vac" M.

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From: Stick Miller

That is awfully expensive IMHO. I bought 6 Deltas for $900 out the door. I would have bought cheaper Vietcong tires if I could have
found them. I'll never wear them out.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209219 is a reply to message #209218] Wed, 29 May 2013 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No offense intended Rob.

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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209221 is a reply to message #209181] Wed, 29 May 2013 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My mistake. The Big O tires aren't $1276.00, they're $1199.00 out the door.

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That is awfully expensive IMHO. I bought 6 Deltas for $900 out the door. I
would have bought cheaper Vietcong tires if I could have found them. I'll
never wear them out.
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'78 Royale - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza
Americus, Georgia



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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209226 is a reply to message #209159] Wed, 29 May 2013 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guy,
See yesterday's thread on this topic- Tire Advice ~ Load Range.
Good price on Cooper tires at America's Tire Company.


Gene Barrow
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209229 is a reply to message #209226] Thu, 30 May 2013 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Guy Lopes is currently offline  Guy Lopes   United States
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Thanks Gene. I'll do some comparison shopping tomorrow.



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Guy,
See yesterday's thread on this topic- Tire Advice ~ Load Range.
Good price on Cooper tires at America's Tire Company.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209233 is a reply to message #209178] Thu, 30 May 2013 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guy Lopes wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 17:07

Well that settles that then! I stick to American made whenever I can. I
called the shop and talked to the owner. He apologized and said that the Big
O brand Big Foot HT (which is made by Cooper) is a little more expensive.
$1,276.68 out the door. It's worth the $200 difference to me. Plus it has a
3 year roadside hazard insurance, even for a nail through the sidewall!

Thanks Ken, in the future I will perform due diligence on my own instead of
taking someone's word for it.



I know nothing about the brand myself. I just found that on the Internet. That only tells you who owns the brand. Maybe Cooper is making the tires for them. Who knows? All tires carry a "made in ???" on the side wall. If you can find one you could check the the side wall.

I bought a set of Yokohamas for my daughter's Honda Fit. They are made in the USA.

I once bought a set of Michelins from Canadian Tire in Alberta. I checked the tire on display and is said "Made in USA" I was worried about the US customs people trying to charge me when I came back. After the tires were installed I noticed the 4 I got all said "Made in Canada". A couple of thousand miles in Canada and some good Canadian mud made them not look new when I returned home. It turned out in that model 14" and 16" tires were made in the US, while 15" tires were made in Quebec (I believe).

Ken B.


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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209234 is a reply to message #209233] Thu, 30 May 2013 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think i will get 16.5 inch tires where and what should it get if i do. To anyone that is interested. THank you mickey anaheim ca, 77 palm beach



On May 30, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Ken Burton wrote:

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>
> Guy Lopes wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 17:07
>> Well that settles that then! I stick to American made whenever I can. I
>> called the shop and talked to the owner. He apologized and said that the Big
>> O brand Big Foot HT (which is made by Cooper) is a little more expensive.
>> $1,276.68 out the door. It's worth the $200 difference to me. Plus it has a
>> 3 year roadside hazard insurance, even for a nail through the sidewall!
>>
>> Thanks Ken, in the future I will perform due diligence on my own instead of
>> taking someone's word for it.
>
> I know nothing about the brand myself. I just found that on the Internet. That only tells you who owns the brand. Maybe Cooper is making the tires for them. Who knows? All tires carry a "made in ???" on the side wall. If you can find one you could check the the side wall.
>
> I bought a set of Yokohamas for my daughter's Honda Fit. They are made in the USA.
>
> I once bought a set of Michelins from Canadian Tire in Alberta. I checked the tire on display and is said "Made in USA" I was worried about the US customs people trying to charge me when I came back. After the tires were installed I noticed the 4 I got all said "Made in Canada". A couple of thousand miles in Canada and some good Canadian mud made them not look new when I returned home. It turned out in that model 14" and 16" tires were made in the US, while 15" tires were made in Quebec (I believe).
>
> Ken B.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209264 is a reply to message #209234] Thu, 30 May 2013 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mickeysss wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 02:42

I think i will get 16.5 inch tires where and what should it get if i do. To anyone that is interested. THank you mickey anaheim ca, 77 palm beach
For load range E 8.75R16.5 tires, the only one in production is the Firestone Transforce HT. Where I live, the only national chain I can find that sells them is Sears, and they don't stock them. Can order online and will be ready for pickup or installation in 6 - 8 days.
Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209265 is a reply to message #209264] Thu, 30 May 2013 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thank you mickey:-) anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.

On May 30, 2013, at 9:07 AM, A. wrote:

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> mickeysss wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 02:42
>> I think i will get 16.5 inch tires where and what should it get if i do. To anyone that is interested. THank you mickey anaheim ca, 77 palm beach
> For load range E 8.75R16.5 tires, the only one in production is the Firestone Transforce HT. Where I live, the only national chain I can find that sells them is Sears, and they don't stock them. Can order online and will be ready for pickup or installation in 6 - 8 days.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209266 is a reply to message #209264] Thu, 30 May 2013 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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they are $273.96 each, wow. mickey :-) anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.



On May 30, 2013, at 9:07 AM, A. wrote:

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> mickeysss wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 02:42
>> I think i will get 16.5 inch tires where and what should it get if i do. To anyone that is interested. THank you mickey anaheim ca, 77 palm beach
> For load range E 8.75R16.5 tires, the only one in production is the Firestone Transforce HT. Where I live, the only national chain I can find that sells them is Sears, and they don't stock them. Can order online and will be ready for pickup or installation in 6 - 8 days.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209276 is a reply to message #209266] Thu, 30 May 2013 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mickeysss wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 11:23



they are $273.96 each, wow. mickey Smile anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
Ouch. Makes the price of alloy wheels a little less oppressive. There are lots of 225/75R16 LRE tires around with a per tire price around $100 less than that. I'm glad I found 7 16" steel wheels for a little over $30 each and 6 brand new Michelin tires for $100 each. Apparently I transitioned to 16" rims with new tires for half the cost of new 16.5" tires.

A year or so ago Firestones were only about $150 - $160 each.
Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209279 is a reply to message #209276] Thu, 30 May 2013 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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where can i get this deal here in ca. michelin's for $100 each, not out here, i hope so, but also where can i get $30 rims.

mickey :-) anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.

thank you i should look around more and see what happens.


On May 30, 2013, at 10:06 AM, A. wrote:

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>
> mickeysss wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 11:23
>> they are $273.96 each, wow. mickey :) anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
> Ouch. Makes the price of alloy wheels a little less oppressive. There are lots of 225/75R16 LRE tires around with a per tire price around $100 less than that. I'm glad I found 7 16" steel wheels for a little over $30 each and 6 brand new Michelin tires for $100 each. Apparently I transitioned to 16" rims with new tires for half the cost of new 16.5" tires.
>
> A year or so ago Firestones were only about $150 - $160 each.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire buying advice [message #209280 is a reply to message #209279] Thu, 30 May 2013 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just checked with our local tire chain (Jack Furrier's Western Tire) and they do stock the Firestone Transforce at their warehouse. He only shows three in stock but can get them on a next day delivery, probably from Phoenix. They are about $190.00 per tire.

I also called Discount Tire and they said they were NOT able to even get them (in an LT tire, they could get them in e trailer service tire). The guy I talked to suggested doing what most here have done, and that is to buy 16" rims and tires. The lower cost of the 16" tires would offset some of the cost of the rims and would further save money at replacement time.


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mickeysss wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 12:20

where can i get this deal here in ca. michelin's for $100 each, not out here, i hope so, but also where can i get $30 rims. ...
I got 7 rims (with OLD wrong sized tires) for $225 off craigslist, then, a few months later I found 6 brand new tires with recent date codes on craigslist for $100 each. I had other things to do to get the CanyonLands ready to roll, so I could wait for bargains.
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