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Tue, 28 May 2013 06:59 |
mmmm ka
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Thanks to all who checked in here with my question about LR-E tires .... Looks like all of us run "E"s without problems. Seems I got opinionated advice from a sales person who prefers "F's" so strongly that he won't recommend anything else.
As for my weigh station ticket. It was one I found from the PO. Shows a picture of a 18 wheeler with 0 lb under the front axle, 7740 lb under the tractor rears, and 3720 lb under the rear (trailer) axles. I was also confused that the 4 tires in the rear carried less weight than the front axles. Could my PO have driven on the scale backwards ? I guess I'll just have to hit the scales myself to find out.
Anyway, looks like I will be saddling up with Load range "E" today. Found 3 to choose from.
Michelin LTX MS @ 222 each
Firestone Trans HT @ 173 each
BFG Commercial T/A @ 183 each
I will talk to my dealer about all your input (steel sidewalls v. poly, tire pressures, load range and all) and make an informed decision.
Thanks to you all,
Mark Kasiewicz & Dawn Koepp
77 Kingsley "Gus da Bus" (soon to be rid of orange carpet)
Eau Claire, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209013 is a reply to message #209012] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 07:04 |
C Boyd
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Might check Dunlops, USA made and not as pricy. I`m happy with mine.
mmmm ka wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 07:59 | Thanks to all who checked in here with my question about LR-E tires .... Looks like all of us run "E"s without problems. Seems I got opinionated advice from a sales person who prefers "F's" so strongly that he won't recommend anything else.
As for my weigh station ticket. It was one I found from the PO. Shows a picture of a 18 wheeler with 0 lb under the front axle, 7740 lb under the tractor rears, and 3720 lb under the rear (trailer) axles. I was also confused that the 4 tires in the rear carried less weight than the front axles. Could my PO have driven on the scale backwards ? I guess I'll just have to hit the scales myself to find out.
Anyway, looks like I will be saddling up with Load range "E" today. Found 3 to choose from.
Michelin LTX MS @ 222 each
Firestone Trans HT @ 173 each
BFG Commercial T/A @ 183 each
I will talk to my dealer about all your input (steel sidewalls v. poly, tire pressures, load range and all) and make an informed decision.
Thanks to you all,
Mark Kasiewicz & Dawn Koepp
77 Kingsley "Gus da Bus" (soon to be rid of orange carpet)
Eau Claire, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209017 is a reply to message #209012] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 08:15 |
appie
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Just ordered 7 pc Hankook vantra RA18C 121R (E)
After european test the best and priceworthy
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209020 is a reply to message #209017] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 08:45 |
Keith V
Messages: 2337 Registered: March 2008 Location: Mounds View,MN
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No steel sidewalls!
that topic has been thrashed over pretty good.
Not necessary.
very harsh ride
subject to sidewall failure if pressure allows the sidewall to crease
expensive.
Get Load range E rag walls and run at 65 psi for a 26 footer
Keith Vasilakes
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209023 is a reply to message #209012] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 08:57 |
powerjon
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Mark,
Back in middle May I wrote this email on ragwall vs all steel tires. Might be good to reread.
NOT TO START A TIRE WAR HERE! You're results may vary!
The only reason that Cinnabar recommends the All Steel tire @80 psi is that GM said that is the tire to use and the pressure to run back in the 70's and Wes will not vary from the party line.
My comments relate to tire style/construction and not BRAND. You buy what you want and then you live with it.
If you put all steel tires in all position on your coach run them as Cinnabar recommends you WILL BE disappointed in the ride and handling of your coach!
We have owned coaches since 1997 ( Eleganza II) and have gone thru several different styles/construction of tires.
The first coach we bought came with Goodyear G159 tires (16.5) which were the recommended tire of the time and it drove terrible. It rut ran and was a handful down the road. The next spring we put on Firestone Steeltex LT225/75R-16 LRE tires along with new Alcoa Rims and it was a completely different coach to drive. These tires were a steel tread with polyside walls. I ran them at 65psi all around. The coach drove with 2 fingers going down the road and I ran these tires until 2007. Granted the rims made a difference in the ride, but the tire were the main player.
In 2007 we purchased a 1975 Avion model GMC and brought it home. It had pretty good tires on it so swapped out the rims and tires to the Eleganza II coach. It had all steel tires on the rear and poly sidewalls on the front and I believe that the tires were all Michelin tires. The coach still drove quite well and other have used this tire combo with success.
Sold the 77 Eleganza II and purchased the Buskirk Stretch in spring of 2011. The new coach had all poly sidewall tires which were Michelin LTX tires (245/75R16 LRE all positions) and they were out of date by a long ways and were in very poor shape. Re-tired the coach with Michelin LTX tires, 245 on the rear and 225 on the front all LRE. Why the 225 tire on the front? The coach has a 3.21 final and a 3.50 chain drive in the tranny. This gives a 3.667 final drive ratio with the 225 tire, but with the 245 tire the ratio went to a 3.50 ratio which is a loss of mechanical advantage. The coach drives extremely well.
I like the Michelin tire, yes I paid a little bit more, but I got several discounts and the time that lowered my overall cost down and they are made in the US or Canada. There are many tire brands out there and most have be tried on our coach with personal success. Buy whatever brands you what or can afford.
Why the difference between the All Steel tire and the Poly sidewall tire. The all steel tire has a much stiffer sidewall tire and will transmit the road conditions to the coach causing it change directions as the road surface changes and is a much harsher ride and could skid easier. The Poly sidewall tire on the other hand has the flexible sidewalls that reduce the transmission of road surface conditions and grips the road better. The Poly sidewall tire setup is the best ride going down the road and there are a large number of GMC owners that have switch to this combination and are very pleased with the results. Most also run in the 60 to 65 PSI range in their tire pressures depending on weight load.
Again, you can buy what you want, but other have found a better ride.
JR Wright
> Thanks to all who checked in here with my question about LR-E tires .... Looks like all of us run "E"s without problems. Seems I got opinionated advice from a sales person who prefers "F's" so strongly that he won't recommend anything else.
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> As for my weigh station ticket. It was one I found from the PO. Shows a picture of a 18 wheeler with 0 lb under the front axle, 7740 lb under the tractor rears, and 3720 lb under the rear (trailer) axles. I was also confused that the 4 tires in the rear carried less weight than the front axles. Could my PO have driven on the scale backwards ? I guess I'll just have to hit the scales myself to find out.
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> Anyway, looks like I will be saddling up with Load range "E" today. Found 3 to choose from.
> Michelin LTX MS @ 222 each
> Firestone Trans HT @ 173 each
> BFG Commercial T/A @ 183 each
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> I will talk to my dealer about all your input (steel sidewalls v. poly, tire pressures, load range and all) and make an informed decision.
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> Thanks to you all,
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> Mark Kasiewicz & Dawn Koepp
> 77 Kingsley "Gus da Bus" (soon to be rid of orange carpet)
> Eau Claire, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209027 is a reply to message #209012] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 09:24 |
appie
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I have been looking for a while but don't seem to be able to find info on sidewalls
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209028 is a reply to message #209013] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 10:01 |
jhbridges
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Coopers cost me just an a hundred and a half mounted and balanced.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range
Might check Dunlops, USA made and not as pricy. I`m happy with mine.
mmmm ka wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 07:59
> Thanks to all who checked in here with my question about LR-E tires .... Looks like all of us run "E"s without problems. Seems I got opinionated advice from a sales person who prefers "F's" so strongly that he won't recommend anything else.
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> As for my weigh station ticket. It was one I found from the PO. Shows a picture of a 18 wheeler with 0 lb under the front axle, 7740 lb under the tractor rears, and 3720 lb under the rear (trailer) axles. I was also confused that the 4 tires in the rear carried less weight than the front axles. Could my PO have driven on the scale backwards ? I guess I'll just have to hit the scales myself to find out.
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> Anyway, looks like I will be saddling up with Load range "E" today. Found 3 to choose from.
> Michelin LTX MS @ 222 each
> Firestone Trans HT @ 173 each
> BFG Commercial T/A @ 183 each
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> I will talk to my dealer about all your input (steel sidewalls v. poly, tire pressures, load range and all) and make an informed decision.
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> Thanks to you all,
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> Mark Kasiewicz & Dawn Koepp
> 77 Kingsley "Gus da Bus" (soon to be rid of orange carpet)
> Eau Claire, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209030 is a reply to message #209023] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 10:14 |
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I suppose this explains why my 16.5" Firestone TransForce tires are so aptly named - they Transfer the Force of every rut, pothole, bump, and crown right back to the driver!
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
Fremont, CA
On May 28, 2013, at 6:57 AM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Mark,
> Back in middle May I wrote this email on ragwall vs all steel tires. Might be good to reread.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209031 is a reply to message #209030] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 10:34 |
tphipps
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Wal-Mart has a Chinese made Polywall tire, load range E, that fits our coach. $119 or so. Add the additional warranties and get service at all Wal-Mart locations. Work very nice.
But, I would have bought Cooper PolyWalls, if Wal-Mart sold them. Service upon failure is what I bought. No questions asked replacement upon failure. Nice ride quality.
JMO.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209049 is a reply to message #209012] |
Tue, 28 May 2013 14:32 |
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mike miller
Messages: 3576 Registered: February 2004 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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mmmm ka wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 04:59 | ...
As for my weigh station ticket. It was one I found from the PO. Shows a picture of a 18 wheeler with 0 lb under the front axle, 7740 lb under the tractor rears, and 3720 lb under the rear (trailer) axles. I was also confused that the 4 tires in the rear carried less weight than the front axles. Could my PO have driven on the scale backwards ? I guess I'll just have to hit the scales myself to find out. ...
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The math almost works out to match my '73 26 foot coach if you take the fronts and the mids wheels as the first measurement and the rear most set as the the last measurement.
Pretty much makes the measurements useless, so you should hit the scales yourself. Load the coach as if you are making a trip and get the weight on each wheel.
Around here they leave the state scales turned on even when the station is closed. I drive up onto the scales slowly and watch as each set of wheels gets on the scale. I write down each of the three readings. Then I back up and cross the scale again with only the wheels on one side. A bit of math gives the weight on each wheel.
For info: I have weighed two of my coaches, each front carries just over 2000lbs (about 2200lbs) and each rear under 2000. (1750lbs for the 26 foot and 1500lbs for the 23 foot.) I understand these numbers are fairly typical.
Use the highest weight on each axle on the tire pressure chart to find the tire pressures you should be running. Also, if you find a large imbalance, you need to find the cause and correct it to get the best handling out of your coach.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209092 is a reply to message #209012] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 00:35 |
gbarrow2
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Mark,
I have posted this info twice in the recent past and the Net's response has been a big Ho Hum. Only Johnny Bridges and Tom Phipps have confessed to liking in Cooper tires.
Seems like many here on the net, myself included, are always looking for a "deal". Many go to great lengths to save a dollar on a $10 item. So, it seems strange that saving %50 on a big ticket item like tires (Cooper vs BFG) is greeted with NO enthusiasm.
America's/Discount Tire is offering Cooper Discoverer load range E tires at $97 a copy. I installed 7 on my Eleganza last week- total bill little over $900 including Cal sales tax, mounting, free lifetime rotation and balancing and road hazard replacement certificates. That's $128 each. Date codes indicated that the tires were 3 weeks old.
I have driven my Palm Beach 100,000 miles in the last 10 years using one set of Bridgestones and one set of BFG Commercial TA's. About half way through a second set of BFG's.
The Coopers ride and handle as well as the Bridgestones or BFG's. And they only cost half as much.
I buy from America's tire for the same reason Tom Phipps buys from Wal Mart-excellent warranty and service and they are everywhere.
End of infomercial!!
Enjoy the ride on what ever you buy.
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209095 is a reply to message #209012] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 00:43 |
appie
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I am looking through the web to find sidewall specs for tires but can t find such info
How do you guys find out ?
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209098 is a reply to message #209097] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 01:25 |
mickeysss
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I still have the 19.5 inch rims and tires, they have another 4 or 5 years to go, i use them very little now.
They have the original wheels. Where is the best place to get tires if i need them for the original rims?
Does it really cost less to get new rims at 18 inch and tires than get the old tires renewed?
mickey :-)
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.
On May 28, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> appie wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 00:43
>> I am looking through the web to find sidewall specs for tires but can t find such info
>> How do you guys find out ?
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> I'm not sure what you are looking for but,
> http://tirerack.com
> is a good place to look up the design specifications on most tires.
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> As an example, here are the tires I have on my GMC:
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> https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Road+Venture+AT+KL78&partnum=275QR6KL78OWL10&vehicleSearch=false&fro mCompare1=yes&tab=Specs
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> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209102 is a reply to message #209098] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 03:40 |
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mickeysss wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 23:25 |
I still have the 19.5 inch rims and tires, they have another 4 or 5 years to go, i use them very little now.
They have the original wheels. Where is the best place to get tires if i need them for the original rims?
Does it really cost less to get new rims at 18 inch and tires than get the old tires renewed?
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I assume you mean "original 16.5 inch wheels" and costing less going to 16 inch wheels. (Not 19.5 and 18 inch.)
I do not think that price of the tire is a reason to change to 16 inch wheels... yet. It is more of an availability issue.
Using the link Ken supplied above, Tire rack only shows one brand of 16.5 inch tire in the size that came on our coaches, the Firestone Transforce HT Highway All-Season. (I have them on two out of three... they work just fine.) The price is the same for both 8.75R16.5LT and LT225/75R16 at $151.00 each.
But you could go with Cooper's for about $50 less.... but that wouldn't get you wheels. But in the long run, going to 16 inch wheels will save you money. Just depends on how long you plan on keeping your coach.
IE: How many sets of tires do you plan on buying for your GMC over the years?
IIRC: Copper Tires are US made. I'll look into them the next time I need tires.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209105 is a reply to message #209102] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 04:32 |
tphipps
Messages: 3005 Registered: August 2004 Location: Spanish Fort, AL
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Apple, hard to directly answer your question because we know most American tires, and names and brands may not carry over to European production. The sidewall description should identify the construction material. It is a requirement here, and I cannot imagine the TUV specs would not require the same or very similar information. PolyWalls have a softer ride and are more closely related to the original tires "give" . Steel tires are much stiffer and reportedly ride much harsher. Steel tires may have potential longer service life, but our tires tend to age out, instead of wear out.
Tom,MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209111 is a reply to message #209092] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 07:27 |
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Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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$22 a tyre over mine- ya done good. Either they make a >lot< of E range or we've both got lucky when we pushed for recent manufacture. I think Cooper probably has a better handle on sales than some makers. They don't seem to languish as long in the warehouse. I went and looked at my pickup and jmy wifes van, and if memory serves, they were both within a couple of monthst of when I bought them at the most. Which is really moot, we wear them out before they age out.
--johnny
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range
Mark,
I have posted this info twice in the recent past and the Net's response has been a big Ho Hum. Only Johnny Bridges and Tom Phipps have confessed to liking in Cooper tires.
Seems like many here on the net, myself included, are always looking for a "deal". Many go to great lengths to save a dollar on a $10 item. So, it seems strange that saving %50 on a big ticket item like tires (Cooper vs BFG) is greeted with NO enthusiasm.
America's/Discount Tire is offering Cooper Discoverer load range E tires at $97 a copy. I installed 7 on my Eleganza last week- total bill little over $900 including Cal sales tax, mounting, free lifetime rotation and balancing and road hazard replacement certificates. That's $128 each. Date codes indicated that the tires were 3 weeks old.
I have driven my Palm Beach 100,000 miles in the last 10 years using one set of Bridgestones and one set of BFG Commercial TA's. About half way through a second set of BFG's.
The Coopers ride and handle as well as the Bridgestones or BFG's. And they only cost half as much.
I buy from America's tire for the same reason Tom Phipps buys from Wal Mart-excellent warranty and service and they are everywhere.
End of infomercial!!
Enjoy the ride on what ever you buy.
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Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209138 is a reply to message #209102] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 11:50 |
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THanks mike, yes i mean 16 .5 and 16, thank you. I am thinking of just getting the 16.5 but also
like Mac, i was thinking of getting the rock star rims and 16 inch just for the front tires first but i would have
to have a spare for it, so three of the rims and 16 inch tires and keep the 16.5 on the back until they get older
that way i am keeping the front wheels and tires new and have a spare for rear and front both.
rock star rims are about 215 dollars i think, and 16 inch are around 140 dollars $350 x 3 + 1K to get started
to the 16 inch world. put the others on in another year or so like mac did. I would have to keep 2 spares for this.
until i went all 16 inch. Is there a better buying design than this, alcoa rims are a lot more. What would anyone else do.
I could go 2400 dollars and get all 7 rims and tires new. But there is a lot of life left on my 16.5 tires. they are only about
4 years old and like new. covered at all times. ??? DOes anyone have any 16 inch rims for sale - good ones.
mickey :-)
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.
On May 29, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
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> mickeysss wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 23:25
>> I still have the 19.5 inch rims and tires, they have another 4 or 5 years to go, i use them very little now.
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>> They have the original wheels. Where is the best place to get tires if i need them for the original rims?
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>> Does it really cost less to get new rims at 18 inch and tires than get the old tires renewed?
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> I assume you mean "original 16.5 inch wheels" and costing less going to 16 inch wheels. (Not 19.5 and 18 inch.)
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> I do not think that price of the tire is a reason to change to 16 inch wheels... yet. It is more of an availability issue.
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> Using the link Ken supplied above, Tire rack only shows one brand of 16.5 inch tire in the size that came on our coaches, the Firestone Transforce HT Highway All-Season. (I have them on two out of three... they work just fine.) The price is the same for both 8.75R16.5LT and LT225/75R16 at $151.00 each.
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> But you could go with Cooper's for about $50 less.... but that wouldn't get you wheels. But in the long run, going to 16 inch wheels will save you money. Just depends on how long you plan on keeping your coach.
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> IE: How many sets of tires do you plan on buying for your GMC over the years?
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> IIRC: Copper Tires are US made. I'll look into them the next time I need tires.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209139 is a reply to message #209138] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 12:13 |
Carl S.
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Mickey,
Look on Jim K's site. He has several wheel options including some used Alcoas:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/level.itml/icOid/489
You can use a 16.5 for a spare. The diameter of a 225/75R16 is almost the same as an 8.75/16.5
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire Advice ~ Load Range [message #209150 is a reply to message #209138] |
Wed, 29 May 2013 13:02 |
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My coach (Money Pit) came with 16" chromed steel wheels and I put BFG TAs on as soon as I bought the coach. About two years later, I bought a pair of the Rock Star wheels each month using the previously bought tires.
Mac in OKC
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On May 29, 2013, at 11:49, "Mickey Space Ship Shuttle" <mickeysss@me.com> wrote:
THanks mike, yes i mean 16 .5 and 16, thank you. I am thinking of just getting the 16.5 but also
like Mac, i was thinking of getting the rock star rims and 16 inch just for the front tires first but i would have
to have a spare for it, so three of the rims and 16 inch tires and keep the 16.5 on the back until they get older
that way i am keeping the front wheels and tires new and have a spare for rear and front both.
rock star rims are about 215 dollars i think, and 16 inch are around 140 dollars $350 x 3 + 1K to get started
to the 16 inch world. put the others on in another year or so like mac did. I would have to keep 2 spares for this.
until i went all 16 inch. Is there a better buying design than this, alcoa rims are a lot more. What would anyone else do.
I could go 2400 dollars and get all 7 rims and tires new. But there is a lot of life left on my 16.5 tires. they are only about
4 years old and like new. covered at all times. ??? DOes anyone have any 16 inch rims for sale - good ones.
mickey :-)
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.
On May 29, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
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> mickeysss wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 23:25
>> I still have the 19.5 inch rims and tires, they have another 4 or 5 years to go, i use them very little now.
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>> They have the original wheels. Where is the best place to get tires if i need them for the original rims?
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>> Does it really cost less to get new rims at 18 inch and tires than get the old tires renewed?
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> I assume you mean "original 16.5 inch wheels" and costing less going to 16 inch wheels. (Not 19.5 and 18 inch.)
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> I do not think that price of the tire is a reason to change to 16 inch wheels... yet. It is more of an availability issue.
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> Using the link Ken supplied above, Tire rack only shows one brand of 16.5 inch tire in the size that came on our coaches, the Firestone Transforce HT Highway All-Season. (I have them on two out of three... they work just fine.) The price is the same for both 8.75R16.5LT and LT225/75R16 at $151.00 each.
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> But you could go with Cooper's for about $50 less.... but that wouldn't get you wheels. But in the long run, going to 16 inch wheels will save you money. Just depends on how long you plan on keeping your coach.
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> IE: How many sets of tires do you plan on buying for your GMC over the years?
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> IIRC: Copper Tires are US made. I'll look into them the next time I need tires.
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