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zip dee awning [message #208715] Fri, 24 May 2013 11:20 Go to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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Does anybody have a picture of where the zip dee awning hooks up to the awning rail? both extended, and not extended?

I am curious as to the size of the aluminum C that holds the flex key material. or if people have any patio awnings that go directly into the awning rail without the flex key Fabric material.



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Re: [GMCnet] zip dee awning [message #208716 is a reply to message #208715] Fri, 24 May 2013 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here are a few
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p36605-zdf.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p36604-zdd.html
and the next 3 pix

gene


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> Does anybody have a picture of where the zip dee awning hooks up to the
> awning rail? both extended, and not extended?
>
> I am curious as to the size of the aluminum C that holds the flex key
> material. or if people have any patio awnings that go directly into the
> awning rail without the flex key Fabric material.
>
>
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Re: zip dee awning [message #208723 is a reply to message #208715] Fri, 24 May 2013 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carguy is currently offline  carguy   United States
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Sorry, not sure what you are asking for but this might be helpful:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc-gmc-photos/p49194-awning-stuff.html


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Re: zip dee awning [message #208724 is a reply to message #208715] Fri, 24 May 2013 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not sure about the guy helping me at zip dee. I might need to chat with the owner.

From what i am learning via google, is old zip dee awnings, did not use the fabric "flex key". but had a metal hinge piece that mounted directly into the awning rail on the coach. I do not have that hinge piece. and it might not be available. Plus it might only fit into a old style awning rail.

need to see if I can change out the last slat in my awning case to a new style piece that uses the fabric flex key.

waiting for a call back from them now. But last time I talked to him he originally told me that all patio awnings uses the fabric flex key, and only window awnings went directly into the awning rail.

I have searched the photo site, and just do not see pictures of the case going directly into the awning rail without the fabric flex key.



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Re: zip dee awning [message #208726 is a reply to message #208723] Fri, 24 May 2013 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks. I had not seen that one... that last slat is different then the one i have.




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Re: zip dee awning [message #208729 is a reply to message #208726] Fri, 24 May 2013 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carrying that conversation further, is it possible for an accomplished seamstress (not Elise) to replace the awning material on a Zip Dee. Mine is in good shape but doesn't fit into our eventual color scheme.

We'd like to do Sunbrella or similar fabric.


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Re: [GMCnet] zip dee awning [message #208730 is a reply to message #208729] Fri, 24 May 2013 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick,

Anyone with a commercial sewing machine can make you an awning if you provide them with the old one by copying it.

However, someone here mentioned that Sunbrella was no longer available as it did not rot and the Feds made them stop making it.

Whether that's true or not I have no idea, however, since it was mentioned here it MUST be true and CORRECT as well! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

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Carrying that conversation further, is it possible for an accomplished seamstress (not Elise) to replace the awning material on a
Zip Dee. Mine is in good shape but doesn't fit into our eventual color scheme.

We'd like to do Sunbrella or similar fabric.
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Re: zip dee awning [message #208731 is a reply to message #208729] Fri, 24 May 2013 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had mine rolled out today. It did not look that overly complicated.

However a good material, I would think would be costly. Have you priced out replacement material with Zip Dee?

otherwise, the supplier I used for my upholstery project carries sunbrella:

http://www.rochfordsupply.com/shop/Awning/Fabric/Sunbrella_Awning_Fabric_-_Solid_46/index.html


I would think though that depending on what zip dee would charge for new fabric, completely sewn and ready for install, could not be that far off from purchasing the fabric, and having to pay a decent seamstress to stich it up.

I would take a wild guess wholesale material cost is $300.00.

I would guess if you had to pay someone to sew it, it would cost a few hundred?

How much is new material from zip dee?



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Re: zip dee awning [message #208732 is a reply to message #208715] Fri, 24 May 2013 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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to update my awning problem. Zip dee is sending me some flex strip samples to see if I can make it work, before purchasing anything.

looking at an owners manual. I am pretty sure what i have is a old style awning that uses a metal hinge type piece to mount it to the awning rail. and I am missing that piece.

never got a straight answer if a new end rail that works with the fabric flex strip, would fit my case slats.(just change out last slat with new one). but I was told shipping would be tough. or extremely costly for an 18' slat.





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Re: [GMCnet] zip dee awning [message #208734 is a reply to message #208730] Fri, 24 May 2013 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Boy, I am not sure where people come up with these things. Sun fella fabric is readily available.

So, with that reasoning I guess they cannot us aluminum in anything as it doesn't rot either!

Emery Stora

On May 24, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Stick,
>
> Anyone with a commercial sewing machine can make you an awning if you provide them with the old one by copying it.
>
> However, someone here mentioned that Sunbrella was no longer available as it did not rot and the Feds made them stop making it.
>
> Whether that's true or not I have no idea, however, since it was mentioned here it MUST be true and CORRECT as well! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stick Miller
>
> Carrying that conversation further, is it possible for an accomplished seamstress (not Elise) to replace the awning material on a
> Zip Dee. Mine is in good shape but doesn't fit into our eventual color scheme.
>
> We'd like to do Sunbrella or similar fabric.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] zip dee awning [message #208735 is a reply to message #208734] Fri, 24 May 2013 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep - sunbrella is available as are other fabrics that are just as effective. We have an upholsterer/seamstress who will swap out time at the beach condo for sewing.

The current awning on my Eleganza is dark brown with orange accents. It'll have to do for a while.


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Re: [GMCnet] zip dee awning [message #208737 is a reply to message #208732] Fri, 24 May 2013 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon
I believe the metal "key" and the fabric "key" both fit the standard awning rail.

Emery Stora

On May 24, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> to update my awning problem. Zip dee is sending me some flex strip samples to see if I can make it work, before purchasing anything.
>
> looking at an owners manual. I am pretty sure what i have is a old style awning that uses a metal hinge type piece to mount it to the awning rail. and I am missing that piece.
>
> never got a straight answer if a new end rail that works with the fabric flex strip, would fit my case slats.(just change out last slat with new one). but I was told shipping would be tough. or extremely costly for an 18' slat.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] zip dee awning [message #208751 is a reply to message #208730] Sat, 25 May 2013 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 24 May 2013 13:40

Stick,

Anyone with a commercial sewing machine can make you an awning if you provide them with the old one by copying it.

However, someone here mentioned that Sunbrella was no longer available as it did not rot and the Feds made them stop making it.

Whether that's true or not I have no idea, however, since it was mentioned here it MUST be true and CORRECT as well! Wink

Regards,
Rob M.

Here is what Rob is talking about.
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=190950&rid=2253&srch=Sunbrella#msg_190950


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Re: [GMCnet] zip dee awning [message #208753 is a reply to message #208751] Sat, 25 May 2013 08:04 Go to previous message
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Bruce,

Well it looks like my memory is only partially correct and partially accurate and therefore I owe Matt an apology, had I not been
too lazy to do a search on the Forum and seen it was from "someone" who had checked with Sunbrella obviously I would not have said
what I said.

I can attest to the fact that the "old" Sunbrella fabric really resists UV as Helen and I brought a patio umbrella with us when we
retired to Sydney in 2002 and the fabric has stood up to the Australian sun quite well and as I understand it the levels of UV are
very high Downunder.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hart

Here is what Rob is talking about.

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=190950&rid=2253&srch=Sunbrella#msg_190950

Bruce

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