| CV Boots.... [message #208473] |
Tue, 21 May 2013 14:46  |
quadracerx1
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Wondering how hard the CV Boots are to change? Any hints to speed the process would be great...
Thanks again...
Steve
75 26' GMC Glenbrook
Puyallup, Washington
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| Re: CV Boots.... [message #208479 is a reply to message #208473] |
Tue, 21 May 2013 16:07  |
jtblank
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Couple hours per side, probably longer the first time and if you're like me, even longer as I always find something else to clean or take apart while I'm at it. Use double wrap clamps and use the multi-pleated boots like Jim K sells. I've done mine 3 times the first two were OEM type with one big pleat but didn't last long as they cracked and leaked. I finally got some from Jim K about 3 years ago http://www.appliedgmc.com/products/full/660.jpg and haven't had a problem since they are much more pliable and seems to me to have more range of motion.
JWID
John Blankenship
'76 Palm Beach
Tulare, CA
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| Re: CV Boots.... [message #208488 is a reply to message #208473] |
Tue, 21 May 2013 17:24 |
quadracerx1
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Does anyone know of a shop in WA. Preferably Seattle/Tacoma area. That could do this job? Or can any shop familiar with front end work do it? Doesn't seem like there are special tools for the job except the band re-installation tool?
Steve
75 26' GMC Glenbrook
Puyallup, Washington
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| Re: CV Boots.... [message #208500 is a reply to message #208473] |
Tue, 21 May 2013 19:07 |
quadracerx1
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Thanks for the reply Matt... So based on what you said, almost any good Front End Shop could do it? I already have the 12 point socket on order..LOL 3/8 drive ok? or is 1/2 the best?
Thanks again... you guys rule..
Steve
75 26' GMC Glenbrook
Puyallup, Washington
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boots.... [message #208503 is a reply to message #208500] |
Tue, 21 May 2013 19:20 |
James Hupy
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Steve, I am not Matt, but I do know these front ends well. Any Front End
Shop CAN'T work on GMC front ends. If they leave the hubs and knuckles
together, and do not mess with the front wheel bearings, a competent
mechanic familiar with front wheel drive vehicles can remove and replace
the drive axles and replace the CV joint boots. You need to be the person
in charge, and if the shop has no experience with GMC hubs and knuckles, my
best advice to you is to find a shop who does. The 12 point fasteners on
the inner flanges retorque to 75 foot pounds. Replace the lock washers with
new ones, and use loctite on them. You do not want them to come loose.
Also, pay attention: The bolts on the drivers side of the coach are shorter
than the ones on the passenger side. If you use a long bolt on the drivers
side the end of the bolt will project out the back of the flange and hang
up on the final drive case. Hate to see you have a bad experience on a GMC
front end.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Steve <quadracerx@aol.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for the reply Matt... So based on what you said, almost any good
> Front End Shop could do it? I already have the 12 point socket on
> order..LOL 3/8 drive ok? or is 1/2 the best?
>
> Thanks again... you guys rule..
>
> Steve
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| Re: CV Boots.... [message #208511 is a reply to message #208473] |
Tue, 21 May 2013 21:11 |
An87ttype
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I read that you can slide the axle out of the CV by just removing the retainer, leaving everything still in the coach. It sounded like it would allow you just enough room to slide on the new boot. I would be interested in giving something like that a try in the dooryard if it's really possible. I wouldn't want to remove everything and worry about the bearings, special tools etc. I'm just an old shade tree mechanic with hand tools willing to get dirty.
I did manage to fix a small hole with "Shoe Goo" that is holding so far. Its been a couple of thousand miles but it does vibrate.
Has anybody done something like this? I'd love to hear about the experience.
Thanks all...
1975 Eleganza II
Hudson Valley NY
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boots.... [message #208516 is a reply to message #208511] |
Tue, 21 May 2013 21:25 |
powerjon
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Daryn,
You do need to remove the axle assembly from the coach to do the repair of the CV boot. It cannot be done with parts of it still installed. You really don't want to go there.
Gene pointed you to this picture album.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/cv-joint-boots/p5689.html
It gives you the basic info on how to do the job. The axles will come out of the coach, just take your time and do it right. The boot kit comes with one pack of grease and that is all you need when just changing out the boot.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On May 21, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Daryn <An87ttype@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I read that you can slide the axle out of the CV by just removing the retainer, leaving everything still in the coach. It sounded like it would allow you just enough room to slide on the new boot. I would be interested in giving something like that a try in the dooryard if it's really possible. I wouldn't want to remove everything and worry about the bearings, special tools etc. I'm just an old shade tree mechanic with hand tools willing to get dirty.
>
> I did manage to fix a small hole with "Shoe Goo" that is holding so far. Its been a couple of thousand miles but it does vibrate.
>
> Has anybody done something like this? I'd love to hear about the experience.
>
> Thanks all...
> --
> 1975 Eleganza II
> Hudson Valley NY
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boots.... [message #208530 is a reply to message #208511] |
Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00 |
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Daryn,
This statement bothers me; "but it does vibrate."
I cannot see how patching a hole with shoe goo would cause a CV joint to vibrate. I suspect you have something else going on that
ain't right.
Unless you are a very good mechanic with lots of experience working on the GMC I would not attempt to R&R the boot without removing
inner CV joint, axle, and outer CV joint.
In order to R&R the boot you will have to jack the GMC up and put it on a set of jack stands and chock the rear wheels. While you've
got it up in the air and both front wheels are off the ground set the parking brake and fire the engine up, put it in drive and
listen to the noise standing next to the wheels. Without crawling under the GMC look at the axles and see what they're doing.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daryn
I read that you can slide the axle out of the CV by just removing the retainer, leaving everything still in the coach. It sounded
like it would allow you just enough room to slide on the new boot. I would be interested in giving something like that a try in the
dooryard if it's really possible. I wouldn't want to remove everything and worry about the bearings, special tools etc. I'm just an
old shade tree mechanic with hand tools willing to get dirty.
I did manage to fix a small hole with "Shoe Goo" that is holding so far. Its been a couple of thousand miles but it does vibrate.
Has anybody done something like this? I'd love to hear about the experience.
Thanks all...
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] CV Boots.... [message #208546 is a reply to message #208530] |
Wed, 22 May 2013 08:52 |
Ronald Pottol
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And he should note you jack the front end from the center, not one side at
a time.
On May 21, 2013 10:00 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Daryn,
>
> This statement bothers me; "but it does vibrate."
>
> I cannot see how patching a hole with shoe goo would cause a CV joint to
> vibrate. I suspect you have something else going on that
> ain't right.
>
> Unless you are a very good mechanic with lots of experience working on the
> GMC I would not attempt to R&R the boot without removing
> inner CV joint, axle, and outer CV joint.
>
> In order to R&R the boot you will have to jack the GMC up and put it on a
> set of jack stands and chock the rear wheels. While you've
> got it up in the air and both front wheels are off the ground set the
> parking brake and fire the engine up, put it in drive and
> listen to the noise standing next to the wheels. Without crawling under
> the GMC look at the axles and see what they're doing.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daryn
>
>
> I read that you can slide the axle out of the CV by just removing the
> retainer, leaving everything still in the coach. It sounded
> like it would allow you just enough room to slide on the new boot. I
> would be interested in giving something like that a try in the
> dooryard if it's really possible. I wouldn't want to remove everything and
> worry about the bearings, special tools etc. I'm just an
> old shade tree mechanic with hand tools willing to get dirty.
>
> I did manage to fix a small hole with "Shoe Goo" that is holding so far.
> Its been a couple of thousand miles but it does vibrate.
>
> Has anybody done something like this? I'd love to hear about the
> experience.
>
> Thanks all...
>
>
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