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appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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Yes everything is more expensive in Europe American goods are double the price on the market but this is outrages

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Re: outrages [message #208442 is a reply to message #208440] Tue, 21 May 2013 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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appie wrote on Mon, 20 May 2013 23:01

Yes everything is more expensive in Europe American goods are double the price on the market but this is outrages

http://suchen.mobile.de/wohnwagen-inserat/andere-gmc-eleganza-palm-beach-berlin/179006101.html?lang=de&pageNumber=1&action=eyeCatcher&__lp =1&scopeId=MH&sortOption.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=gmc&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=fals e&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&vehicleCategory=Motorhome&segment=Motorhome&ne gativeFeatures=EXPORT



Is this what you are talking about?
<http://suchen.mobile.de/wohnwagen-inserat/andere-gmc-eleganza-palm-beach-berlin/179006101.html>

I THINK they are asking ONLY $70884.00.

But it seems to say it is a Diesel. (But it might as well be Greek to me!)




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Re: outrages [message #208443 is a reply to message #208442] Tue, 21 May 2013 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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Right only 70.000 usd

yes it says 8 cylinder diesel, wonder if thats right
Seems like skin is popping of on left side


Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark
Re: outrages [message #208444 is a reply to message #208443] Tue, 21 May 2013 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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appie wrote on Tue, 21 May 2013 00:42

Right only 70.000 usd

yes it says 8 cylinder diesel, wonder if thats right
Seems like skin is popping of on left side


From the pictures I would say it "was" a 1976 Palm Beach. (Electro-Level switches on dash, green panels in the bath.)

I do know of a v8 diesel being installed in a GMC... and it WAS done in Europe, but that coach is now in New Mexico.



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Re: outrages [message #208445 is a reply to message #208444] Tue, 21 May 2013 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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I asked the seller and got this reply:

Hallo Herr Middelberg,
es ist ein 6 1/2 Liter V8 GM Diesel ohne Turbolader.
(Ein Sidewinder Torbolader wäre nachrüstbar.)

In English 6,5 liter gm diesel without turbo


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Re: outrages [message #208446 is a reply to message #208445] Tue, 21 May 2013 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rippled effect on lower body panels on left side is normal because of different expansion rates of the Al and plastic parts used.
Marc did Avery very nice diesel installation, so it can be done.
Price is out if sight.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208447 is a reply to message #208446] Tue, 21 May 2013 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Looks to have the original 16.5" wheels, I wonder how available those tires
are in Europe and at what cost?

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Rippled effect on lower body panels on left side is normal because of
> different expansion rates of the Al and plastic parts used.
> Marc did Avery very nice diesel installation, so it can be done.
> Price is out if sight.
> Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208448 is a reply to message #208447] Tue, 21 May 2013 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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It’s not outrageous if he can get it. And if that’s what the market will bear, imagine the opportunities. Every dead coach rotting In a cornfield would worth restoring. Pretty sure RORO from the East Coast to Liverpool is pretty cheap, it’s around $1500 for a car.



Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208450 is a reply to message #208440] Tue, 21 May 2013 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Appie,

The GMC I have in Australia was imported, converted to RHD, and "restored" by the previous owner. He did an OK job but because I am
a perfectionist I went crazy and gutted it to do it all over. At any rate I know he paid $15,000 for it from a dealer in El Paso, TX
by the time he finished the coach he had $85,000 in it. I got lucky and got it for $30,000.

One of the things that contributed to that cost was the fact that any modifications to a vehicle in New South Wales is that the work
must be done under the supervision of an engineer with a degree in automotive engineering with a license from the NSW Roads and
Traffic Administration.

If I am not mistaken in Germany they have a similar system called TUV. When I was building hot rod Harley's in Hong Kong I had one
customer who was from Germany. I asked him if he wanted me to use parts that had TUV approval and he said not to bother he would
never be moving back to Germany. Six months later he lost his job in HK and went back to Germany and he could not get his Harley
registered. He owned a vacation home in Portugal and wound up registering it there.

Now for those of you who think this is ridiculous I was speaking to Bill Bramlet at a GMCMI Convention one time and the subject came
up and when he heard of the onerous rules in NSW he noted that it was ridiculous. I asked him how many modified cars he had worked
on in his life that he wouldn't ride in. He thought for a moment and gave me an understanding look and said; "you've got a point
there."

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: lenze middelberg

Yes everything is more expensive in Europe American goods are double the price on the market but this is outrages


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Appie
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Re: outrages [message #208453 is a reply to message #208440] Tue, 21 May 2013 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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Yes we are very envious about your liberal system.
Overal in Europe cars go for control once a year and every change has to be approved
Some countrys are more stricked then others.

Olga, that I bought in Germany has the Algoa's written in the papers as approved, but not the quadrabags or the new braks or precissionsteering. The good thing is that officials have no way og knowing this is not original, and I will not tell them.

But we have no change to built those fantastic conversions you have in the states


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Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208463 is a reply to message #208445] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I recall, prior to the Isuzu-designed Diesel
currently being used by GM, they had what was
somewhat charitably described as a "wimpy"
6.2 L non-turbo engine. I wonder if that is what
is in this Berlin coach.

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~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: lenze@middelberg.dk
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 03:30:50 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] outrages
>
>
>
> I asked the seller and got this reply:
>
> Hallo Herr Middelberg,
> es ist ein 6 1/2 Liter V8 GM Diesel ohne Turbolader.
> (Ein Sidewinder Torbolader wäre nachrüstbar.)
>
> In English 6,5 liter gm diesel without turbo
> --
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> eleganza 76
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Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208466 is a reply to message #208463] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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he said it was 6,5


Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark
Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208469 is a reply to message #208463] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If so run like hell
Howard
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On May 21, 2013, at 10:18 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:

> If I recall, prior to the Isuzu-designed Diesel
> currently being used by GM, they had what was
> somewhat charitably described as a "wimpy"
> 6.2 L non-turbo engine. I wonder if that is what
> is in this Berlin coach.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>
>
>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> From: lenze@middelberg.dk
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 03:30:50 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] outrages
>>
>>
>>
>> I asked the seller and got this reply:
>>
>> Hallo Herr Middelberg,
>> es ist ein 6 1/2 Liter V8 GM Diesel ohne Turbolader.
>> (Ein Sidewinder Torbolader wäre nachrüstbar.)
>>
>> In English 6,5 liter gm diesel without turbo
>> --
>> Appie
>> eleganza 76
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Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208471 is a reply to message #208466] Tue, 21 May 2013 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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He MAY have been misinformed!

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~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
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~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: lenze@middelberg.dk
> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 12:38:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] outrages
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>
>
> he said it was 6,5
>
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Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208472 is a reply to message #208463] Tue, 21 May 2013 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, the 6.2L is a good engine but it is a little anemic. I had one in
an 82 Chevy 1-ton Crew Cab Dually, but it had an Air Research aftermarket
turbo on it. I hauled lots of very heavy stuff with it and I never had a
speed or mountain problem. It was every bit as good as my current Chevy
6.5TD 1-ton Dually Crew Cab. I would like to put the 6.5L in my coach once
a kit becomes available.
--
Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

> If I recall, prior to the Isuzu-designed Diesel
> currently being used by GM, they had what was
> somewhat charitably described as a "wimpy"
> 6.2 L non-turbo engine.
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Re: [GMCnet] outrages [message #208497 is a reply to message #208472] Tue, 21 May 2013 18:51 Go to previous message
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Here is my story
Back twenty years ago.
I picked up a Chevy pickup with a broken 6.2 Diesel engine cheap.
The engine had the crank hanging the bottom of the pan.
We replaced it with a Olds 350 gas engine from the wrecking yard.
Total cost just short of $1,000
Our daughter had truck for school and to pick up feed for her 4 H Steer.
We sold it when Kaliforina got wind of what folks where doing with broken Diesel engine cars and trucks.
Howard
Alpine CA
26' Canyon Lands






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On May 21, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, the 6.2L is a good engine but it is a little anemic. I had one in
> an 82 Chevy 1-ton Crew Cab Dually, but it had an Air Research aftermarket
> turbo on it. I hauled lots of very heavy stuff with it and I never had a
> speed or mountain problem. It was every bit as good as my current Chevy
> 6.5TD 1-ton Dually Crew Cab. I would like to put the 6.5L in my coach once
> a kit becomes available.
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> If I recall, prior to the Isuzu-designed Diesel
>> currently being used by GM, they had what was
>> somewhat charitably described as a "wimpy"
>> 6.2 L non-turbo engine.
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