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| [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208038] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 09:54  |
John Boyer
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Hi all,
Just busted off my new fuel filter from Applied GMC. Had it attached to the exterior of the frame rail. I know this is it's
recommended location according to Nick, but not a lot of protection there.
As an aside, the incident was my own fault, having stored my GMC on 2 x 6's.
When I moved it, one of the boards kicked up and smacked the filter.
My question is has anyone had success installing a protective plate or barrier ahead if the filter/pump array to ward
off the inevitable road debris?
John Boyer
'73 GMC Glacier 23'
Ottawa, IL
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| Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208045 is a reply to message #208038] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 10:17  |
kerry pinkerton
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My beloved PO had installed an external fuel pump in front of the tanks and it actually hung down BELOW the frame rail. It was mounted to a piece of wood bolted to the crossmember. I've moved it up so it's not hanging below the crossmember but it's still a temporary solution imo.
My new filter came in yesterday and I'm going to plumb it in before the fuel pump and will definitely make a bolt on 1/4 steel plate to protect it and another for the fuel pump. I'll post some photos when I do.
I hit a piece of tire earlier this year that knocked a muffler hard enough to loosen the exhaust donut. I shudder to think what could have happened if it had hit the fuel pump. At least it would have been on the other side from the exhaust pipe.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208077 is a reply to message #208038] |
Fri, 17 May 2013 15:09 |
sgltrac
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If you plan on leaving that stuff outside of the frame you could go see your local metal fabricator an have a cage made to protect it for small $
There is plenty of room to mount that type of stuff on the interior or the frame where it will be much less prone especially in a collision however installation will be more complicated and access perhaps not quite as convenient.
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
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On May 17, 2013, at 7:54 AM, "jboyer" <jboyer@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just busted off my new fuel filter from Applied GMC. Had it attached to the exterior of the frame rail. I know this is it's
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> recommended location according to Nick, but not a lot of protection there.
>
> As an aside, the incident was my own fault, having stored my GMC on 2 x 6's.
>
> When I moved it, one of the boards kicked up and smacked the filter.
>
> My question is has anyone had success installing a protective plate or barrier ahead if the filter/pump array to ward
>
> off the inevitable road debris?
>
>
> John Boyer
> '73 GMC Glacier 23'
> Ottawa, IL
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| Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208222 is a reply to message #208038] |
Sun, 19 May 2013 00:54 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| John Boyer wrote on Fri, 17 May 2013 08:54 |
Hi all,
Just busted off my new fuel filter from Applied GMC. Had it attached to the exterior of the frame rail. I know this is it's
recommended location according to Nick, but not a lot of protection there.
As an aside, the incident was my own fault, having stored my GMC on 2 x 6's.
When I moved it, one of the boards kicked up and smacked the filter.
My question is has anyone had success installing a protective plate or barrier ahead if the filter/pump array to ward
off the inevitable road debris?
John Boyer
'73 GMC Glacier 23'
Ottawa, IL
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Frankly John, every part you add results in deamatically lower reliability. The tempation is to put more and more backup stuff on our coaches, but if you do the reliabity calculations, the fewer parts the better by a loooong shot. Replacing parts with those of better quality is always a good thing but adding more parts is not a good thing. That applies to most things that this net seems to advocate.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208354 is a reply to message #208346] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 01:09 |
jimk
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We will send you another under our warranty program.
We mount these to where the bottom of the frame is lower than the filter.
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 19 May 2013 01:54
> > Frankly John, every part you add results in deamatically lower
> reliability. The tempation is to put more and more backup stuff on our
> coaches, but if you do the reliabity calculations, the fewer parts the
> better by a loooong shot. Replacing parts with those of better quality is
> always a good thing but adding more parts is not a good thing. That applies
> to most things that this net seems to advocate.
>
> Gee Bob,
>
> This sounds so much like the reason for a twin engine light plane is to
> deliver you safely to the scene of the crash.......
>
> Matt (only about 45 hours on an student book 40yo).
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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http://www.appliedgmc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208365 is a reply to message #208346] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 07:17 |
jhbridges
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Well, I dunno now, but in the late 60s, early 70s, according tro the FAA an engine out situation was tweice as likely to result in fatality in a twin as in a single. I suspect that's because when the single quits, there's no question where you're headed; while in the twin you have some options which you can get wrong.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail
Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 19 May 2013 01:54
> Frankly John, every part you add results in deamatically lower reliability. The tempation is to put more and more backup stuff on our coaches, but if you do the reliabity calculations, the fewer parts the better by a loooong shot. Replacing parts with those of better quality is always a good thing but adding more parts is not a good thing. That applies to most things that this net seems to advocate.
Gee Bob,
This sounds so much like the reason for a twin engine light plane is to deliver you safely to the scene of the crash.......
Matt (only about 45 hours on an student book 40yo).
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Matt & Mary Colie
'73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208398 is a reply to message #208365] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 13:23 |
Ronald Pottol
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Classically, it was that twins were owned by people who had less time to
fly, and thus were less proficient.
On May 20, 2013 5:18 AM, "Johnny Bridges" <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Well, I dunno now, but in the late 60s, early 70s, according tro the FAA
> an engine out situation was tweice as likely to result in fatality in a
> twin as in a single. I suspect that's because when the single quits,
> there's no question where you're headed; while in the twin you have some
> options which you can get wrong.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
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> From: Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail
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> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 19 May 2013 01:54
> > Frankly John, every part you add results in deamatically lower
> reliability. The tempation is to put more and more backup stuff on our
> coaches, but if you do the reliabity calculations, the fewer parts the
> better by a loooong shot. Replacing parts with those of better quality is
> always a good thing but adding more parts is not a good thing. That applies
> to most things that this net seems to advocate.
>
> Gee Bob,
>
> This sounds so much like the reason for a twin engine light plane is to
> deliver you safely to the scene of the crash.......
>
> Matt (only about 45 hours on an student book 40yo).
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail [message #208422 is a reply to message #208398] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 20:33 |
jhbridges
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I'd easily believe that. I watched the guy who owned our Company mount up in 'his' Twin Commanche on the ramp at MGM, fire it up, jump the chocks, and avaiate off to a job in Mississippi. I made a mental note, next time I went someplace with him I'd just say 'Gene, I'll drive,you can get some work done'. And show up early and be sure he thing had gas and oil and maybe count the wings before he got there. Fortunately, the situation never arose. The gent died, nmany years later in bed with his boots off.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Ronald Pottol <ronaldpottol@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail
Classically, it was that twins were owned by people who had less time to
fly, and thus were less proficient.
On May 20, 2013 5:18 AM, "Johnny Bridges" <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Well, I dunno now, but in the late 60s, early 70s, according tro the FAA
> an engine out situation was tweice as likely to result in fatality in a
> twin as in a single. I suspect that's because when the single quits,
> there's no question where you're headed; while in the twin you have some
> options which you can get wrong.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
>
> From: Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] fuel filter outside frame rail
>
>
>
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> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 19 May 2013 01:54
> > Frankly John, every part you add results in deamatically lower
> reliability. The tempation is to put more and more backup stuff on our
> coaches, but if you do the reliabity calculations, the fewer parts the
> better by a loooong shot. Replacing parts with those of better quality is
> always a good thing but adding more parts is not a good thing. That applies
> to most things that this net seems to advocate.
>
> Gee Bob,
>
> This sounds so much like the reason for a twin engine light plane is to
> deliver you safely to the scene of the crash.......
>
> Matt (only about 45 hours on an student book 40yo).
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> _______________________________________________
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