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| I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205415] |
Sun, 21 April 2013 12:22  |
rjw
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Well it happened again. Friday afternoon (4/19), on Northbound I95 about 65 miles South of Savannah, GA the Olds 455 died. It stopped once, restarted briefly then decided to call it quits for good. As I coasted to a stop on a nice wide part of I95, next to a weigh station, I was reminded why I spent a day last month installing a backup vacuum pump. What if this had happened going downhill in West Virginia instead of a part where Georgia is very flat? You get only 1 or 2 brake applications without vacuum before there is next to no braking. I would not have been able to stop on a steep hill without running off the road. Or, it could have been in the rain at night like when it happened to me in 2011 during "the incident at mile marker 123" in Michigan. I was lucky then to coast to a stop in a sort of safe area. How about an engine/vacuum failure in traffic where I would have to maneuver without good brakes coasting through traffic to get to the side of the road?
This was the fifth time in about 15 years (3 times in the last 2 years) that I've experienced a sudden and complete power failure. This was the first time that I wasn’t alone when it happened. Dear wife and our mechanically gifted cat were with me. They were both pretty good about it when I explained that this was just like the time it died last fall on the way back from Amana. That time it quit I was able to coast safely to a stop on the side of I80. I was able to restart after I let things cool off. I went to a vacant gas station, swapped distributor covers and finished the trip home. I never was sure what was wrong.
I thought before leaving on this trip that I had everything covered to avoid such a thing. I have a newly rebuilt 455, newly rebuilt distributor, new cover, rotor, module and new ignition wires. Plus I have Howell TBI fuel injection with EBL. All those components, including fuel lines and pump are less than 5 years old.
First thing I did was pull the air cleaner off and try a start. No fuel on the butterflies when trying to start. However, with fuel injection that doesn’t mean anything because with no engine start, the fuel pump shuts off. Nuts, the new/old laptop I’m running to monitor the engine wasn’t setup for the fuel pressure transducer. Get out my netbook that has fuel pressure setup. Yep have fuel pressure that slowly drops when trying to start. That means I have fuel and the filter is OK. Next to check is spark. Hook up spark tester to #1 and no spark! Smart cat in the back I’m sure is saying something about “distributor”. Good thing I have a complete spare distributor on board. I don’t really want to install that yet so I’ll start swapping parts. First is module swap. During that process I notice a very loose connection for the B+ lead. It won’t stay in the connector. That can’t be good. Maybe that’s what happened last fall. But this is a new rebuilt from a very reputable rebuilder. Oh well, everyone makes mistakes. I decided to swap harnesses (between distributor base and over) and see what happens. Crank it and bingo it starts up. All this took about 90 minutes and we were on our way again. The passengers were impressed that I acted like I knew what I was doing. The cat was happy that we had the Onan running so we could have air conditioning while I worked.
We are now safely in Savannah, with the wedding a few hours away. Oh and by the way got a great deal on a weekend (Friday to Monday) car rental from Enterprise. I rented a Toyota Prius hybrid for just $38 total. Plus they picked me up from the campground.
Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have one.
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com
Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205420 is a reply to message #205415] |
Sun, 21 April 2013 12:37  |
Mr ERFisher
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so the final answer is
a spare ignition module (gm only:>)
I carry 2 in each gmc
gene
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:22 AM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well it happened again. Friday afternoon (4/19), on Northbound I95 about
> 65 miles South of Savannah, GA the Olds 455 died. It stopped once,
> restarted briefly then decided to call it quits for good. As I coasted to
> a stop on a nice wide part of I95, next to a weigh station, I was reminded
> why I spent a day last month installing a backup vacuum pump. What if this
> had happened going downhill in West Virginia instead of a part where
> Georgia is very flat? You get only 1 or 2 brake applications without
> vacuum before there is next to no braking. I would not have been able to
> stop on a steep hill without running off the road. Or, it could have been
> in the rain at night like when it happened to me in 2011 during "the
> incident at mile marker 123" in Michigan. I was lucky then to coast to a
> stop in a sort of safe area. How about an engine/vacuum failure in traffic
> where I would have to maneuver without good brakes coasting through traffic
> to get to the side of the road?
>
> This was the fifth time in about 15 years (3 times in the last 2 years)
> that I've experienced a sudden and complete power failure. This was the
> first time that I wasn’t alone when it happened. Dear wife and our
> mechanically gifted cat were with me. They were both pretty good about it
> when I explained that this was just like the time it died last fall on the
> way back from Amana. That time it quit I was able to coast safely to a
> stop on the side of I80. I was able to restart after I let things cool
> off. I went to a vacant gas station, swapped distributor covers and
> finished the trip home. I never was sure what was wrong.
>
> I thought before leaving on this trip that I had everything covered to
> avoid such a thing. I have a newly rebuilt 455, newly rebuilt distributor,
> new cover, rotor, module and new ignition wires. Plus I have Howell TBI
> fuel injection with EBL. All those components, including fuel lines and
> pump are less than 5 years old.
>
> First thing I did was pull the air cleaner off and try a start. No fuel
> on the butterflies when trying to start. However, with fuel injection that
> doesn’t mean anything because with no engine start, the fuel pump
> shuts off. Nuts, the new/old laptop I’m running to monitor the
> engine wasn’t setup for the fuel pressure transducer. Get out my
> netbook that has fuel pressure setup. Yep have fuel pressure that slowly
> drops when trying to start. That means I have fuel and the filter is OK.
> Next to check is spark. Hook up spark tester to #1 and no spark! Smart
> cat in the back I’m sure is saying something about
> “distributor”. Good thing I have a complete spare distributor
> on board. I don’t really want to install that yet so I’ll
> start swapping parts. First is module swap. During that process I notice
> a very loose connection for the B+ lead. It won’t stay in the
> connector. That can’t be good. Maybe that’s w
> hat happened last fall. But this is a new rebuilt from a very reputable
> rebuilder. Oh well, everyone makes mistakes. I decided to swap harnesses
> (between distributor base and over) and see what happens. Crank it and
> bingo it starts up. All this took about 90 minutes and we were on our way
> again. The passengers were impressed that I acted like I knew what I was
> doing. The cat was happy that we had the Onan running so we could have air
> conditioning while I worked.
> We are now safely in Savannah, with the wedding a few hours away. Oh and
> by the way got a great deal on a weekend (Friday to Monday) car rental from
> Enterprise. I rented a Toyota Prius hybrid for just $38 total. Plus they
> picked me up from the campground.
>
> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
> one.
>
> --
> Richard
> 76 Palm Beach
> SE Michigan
> www.PalmBeachGMC.com
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205433 is a reply to message #205415] |
Sun, 21 April 2013 16:35 |
Ken Henderson
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Richard,
CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem and
solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
Ken H.
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well it happened again
...
> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
> one.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205440 is a reply to message #205433] |
Sun, 21 April 2013 17:27 |
Arthur Mansfield
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What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
Art & Doris
76 EL
Decatur AL
On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Richard,
>
> CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
>
> So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem and
> solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Well it happened again
>
> ...
>> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
>> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
>> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
>> one.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205446 is a reply to message #205440] |
Sun, 21 April 2013 18:46 |
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mike miller
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GM JC4 ... brand new, not from a junk yard. As the designed vehicle for this are "new", they can be found many places. But JimK sells a kit (I did not use the bracket as I mounted it differently):
<http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/769>
| Arthur Mansfield wrote on Sun, 21 April 2013 15:27 |
What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
>> ... And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
>> one.
>>
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(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205502 is a reply to message #205440] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 09:17 |
jhbridges
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Define "best" :)
I bagged mine from the Men's Mann in Buford, out from under teh driver's side front fender liner off an early 90s mid size Buick. $15, I think. Buick installed it in series with the booster line, I did mine differently cos I wanted a reservoir and a steady draw for the A/C controls.
Â
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
Noth Georgia
________________________________
From: 1104agm <1104agm@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
Art & Doris
76 EL
Decatur AL
On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Richard,
>
> CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
>
> So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem and
> solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Well it happened again
>
> ...
>> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
>> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
>> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
>> one.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205506 is a reply to message #205502] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 09:35 |
Mr ERFisher
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Define "best" :)
>
new
easy mount
built-in check valve
built-in power relay
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4896-vacuum-booster-pump-auxiliary-gmc-jc4.html
gene
> I bagged mine from the Men's Mann in Buford, out from under teh driver's
> side front fender liner off an early 90s mid size Buick. $15, I think.
> Buick installed it in series with the booster line, I did mine differently
> cos I wanted a reservoir and a steady draw for the A/C controls.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
> Noth Georgia
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: 1104agm <1104agm@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
>
>
> What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
>
> Art & Doris
> 76 EL
> Decatur AL
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
> >
> > So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem and
> > solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Well it happened again
> >
> > ...
> >> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> >> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
> >> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
> >> one.
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205508 is a reply to message #205506] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 09:46 |
jhbridges
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Mine got ever thing on your list  but 'new' :) And it's a hell of a sight newer than the coach anyhow.
Â
Â
--johnny
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From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Define "best" :)
>
new
easy mount
built-in check valve
built-in power relay
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4896-vacuum-booster-pump-auxiliary-gmc-jc4.html
gene
> I bagged mine from the Men's Mann in Buford, out from under teh driver's
> side front fender liner off an early 90s mid size Buick. $15, I think.
> Buick installed it in series with the booster line, I did mine differently
> cos I wanted a reservoir and a steady draw for the A/C controls.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
> Noth Georgia
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: 1104agm <1104agm@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
>
>
> What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
>
> Art & Doris
> 76 EL
> Decatur AL
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
> >
> > So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem and
> > solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Well it happened again
> >
> > ...
> >> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> >> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
> >> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
> >> one.
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205510 is a reply to message #205508] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 10:06 |
Mr ERFisher
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how about pictures and numbers?
can you still get them new?
gene
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Mine got ever thing on your list but 'new' :) And it's a hell of a sight
> newer than the coach anyhow.
>
>
> --johnny
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Define "best" :)
> >
>
> new
> easy mount
> built-in check valve
> built-in power relay
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4896-vacuum-booster-pump-auxiliary-gmc-jc4.html
>
> gene
>
>
>
> > I bagged mine from the Men's Mann in Buford, out from under teh driver's
> > side front fender liner off an early 90s mid size Buick. $15, I think.
> > Buick installed it in series with the booster line, I did mine
> differently
> > cos I wanted a reservoir and a steady draw for the A/C controls.
> >
> > --johnny
> > '76 23' transmode norris
> > '76 palm beach
> > Noth Georgia
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: 1104agm <1104agm@gmail.com>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
> >
> >
> > What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
> >
> > Art & Doris
> > 76 EL
> > Decatur AL
> > On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
> > >
> > > So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem
> and
> > > solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
> > >
> > > Ken H.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Well it happened again
> > >
> > > ...
> > >> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> > >> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
> > >> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
> > >> one.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205521 is a reply to message #205510] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 13:03 |
jhbridges
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Probably as a GM part, but why not just get the part from JimK if you want a new one? He's got a mounting bracket fabbed for his, and this one you have to fab your own.Â
My camera expired in Dothan, and I haven't replaced it yet. I'll get one this week. This pump looks similar to what Applied sells, the difference being the mount, looks as if. As I understood it from the lady at Pick N Pay, pretty much all the early 90s GMC mid size sedans fitted it. I think this one came off a Century, don't really remember.Â
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--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
how about pictures and numbers?
can you still get them new?
gene
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Mine got ever thing on your list but 'new' :) And it's a hell of a sight
> newer than the coach anyhow.
>
>
> --johnny
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Define "best" :)
> >
>
> new
> easy mount
> built-in check valve
> built-in power relay
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4896-vacuum-booster-pump-auxiliary-gmc-jc4.html
>
> gene
>
>
>
> > I bagged mine from the Men's Mann in Buford, out from under teh driver's
> > side front fender liner off an early 90s mid size Buick. $15, I think.
> > Buick installed it in series with the booster line, I did mine
> differently
> > cos I wanted a reservoir and a steady draw for the A/C controls.
> >
> > --johnny
> > '76 23' transmode norris
> > '76 palm beach
> > Noth Georgia
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: 1104agm <1104agm@gmail.com>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
> >
> >
> > What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
> >
> > Art & Doris
> > 76 EL
> > Decatur AL
> > On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
> > >
> > > So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem
> and
> > > solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
> > >
> > > Ken H.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Well it happened again
> > >
> > > ...
> > >> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> > >> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on electrical
> > >> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already have
> > >> one.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
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> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205522 is a reply to message #205521] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 13:49 |
Kingsley Coach
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Well, well...Richard Waters hasn't been on the net much in the last
while...or at least I haven't noticed him here. Should we make him tell us
what he's been up to? <VBG>
Mike in NS
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> Probably as a GM part, but why not just get the part from JimK if you want
> a new one? He's got a mounting bracket fabbed for his, and this one you
> have to fab your own.
> My camera expired in Dothan, and I haven't replaced it yet. I'll get one
> this week. This pump looks similar to what Applied sells, the difference
> being the mount, looks as if. As I understood it from the lady at Pick N
> Pay, pretty much all the early 90s GMC mid size sedans fitted it. I think
> this one came off a Century, don't really remember.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
>
>
> how about pictures and numbers?
>
> can you still get them new?
>
> gene
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mine got ever thing on your list but 'new' :) And it's a hell of a
> sight
> > newer than the coach anyhow.
> >
> >
> > --johnny
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Define "best" :)
> > >
> >
> > new
> > easy mount
> > built-in check valve
> > built-in power relay
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4896-vacuum-booster-pump-auxiliary-gmc-jc4.html
> >
> > gene
> >
> >
> >
> > > I bagged mine from the Men's Mann in Buford, out from under teh
> driver's
> > > side front fender liner off an early 90s mid size Buick. $15, I think.
> > > Buick installed it in series with the booster line, I did mine
> > differently
> > > cos I wanted a reservoir and a steady draw for the A/C controls.
> > >
> > > --johnny
> > > '76 23' transmode norris
> > > '76 palm beach
> > > Noth Georgia
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: 1104agm <1104agm@gmail.com>
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
> > >
> > > Art & Doris
> > > 76 EL
> > > Decatur AL
> > > On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
> > > >
> > > > So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem
> > and
> > > > solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
> > > >
> > > > Ken H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Well it happened again
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> > > >> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on
> electrical
> > > >> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already
> have
> > > >> one.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> > “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> > -------
> > http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> > Alternator Protection Cable
> > http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> Alternator Protection Cable
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
> _______________________________________________
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed! [message #205524 is a reply to message #205521] |
Mon, 22 April 2013 14:18 |
Mr ERFisher
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yes
as you can see here
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3471-vacuum-pumps-new-models.html
over the last 15 years we have gone through many different pumps
and were pickeled tink when they found this one,
-
easy to use and always works
gene
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>wrote:
> Probably as a GM part, but why not just get the part from JimK if you want
> a new one? He's got a mounting bracket fabbed for his, and this one you
> have to fab your own.
> My camera expired in Dothan, and I haven't replaced it yet. I'll get one
> this week. This pump looks similar to what Applied sells, the difference
> being the mount, looks as if. As I understood it from the lady at Pick N
> Pay, pretty much all the early 90s GMC mid size sedans fitted it. I think
> this one came off a Century, don't really remember.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
>
>
> how about pictures and numbers?
>
> can you still get them new?
>
> gene
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mine got ever thing on your list but 'new' :) And it's a hell of a
> sight
> > newer than the coach anyhow.
> >
> >
> > --johnny
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Define "best" :)
> > >
> >
> > new
> > easy mount
> > built-in check valve
> > built-in power relay
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4896-vacuum-booster-pump-auxiliary-gmc-jc4.html
> >
> > gene
> >
> >
> >
> > > I bagged mine from the Men's Mann in Buford, out from under teh
> driver's
> > > side front fender liner off an early 90s mid size Buick. $15, I think.
> > > Buick installed it in series with the booster line, I did mine
> > differently
> > > cos I wanted a reservoir and a steady draw for the A/C controls.
> > >
> > > --johnny
> > > '76 23' transmode norris
> > > '76 palm beach
> > > Noth Georgia
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: 1104agm <1104agm@gmail.com>
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I broke down again, but didn't have to be towed!
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the best vacuum pomp set up to get?
> > >
> > > Art & Doris
> > > 76 EL
> > > Decatur AL
> > > On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > CONGRATULATIONS on your troubleshooting expertise!
> > > >
> > > > So sorry it was needed, but glad you were able to analyze the problem
> > and
> > > > solve it in a reasonable period of time without a serious incident.
> > > >
> > > > Ken H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM, RJW <mygmc@palmbeachgmc.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Well it happened again
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >> Moral of the story is don’t assume that because something was newly
> > > >> rebuilt that everything is OK. Check all the connectors on
> electrical
> > > >> stuff. And strongly consider a vacuum pump if you don’t already
> have
> > > >> one.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> > “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> > -------
> > http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> > Alternator Protection Cable
> > http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> Alternator Protection Cable
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
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“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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