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Re: [GMCnet] dead coach [message #204603] Sun, 14 April 2013 03:53 Go to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Sounds like a bad battery cable or bad ground to engine block to me.

Emery Stora

On Apr 14, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Burt and Faye curtis <curtisunlimitedbandf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Friend found and bought coach Friday - drove it home, parked it and turned
> it off. Then tried to start it again to move it to a safer location -
> moments after turning it off. Will not startT.Doesn't even try to
> crank. Headlights will not come on. tested batteries and voltages are good.
> Using bat switch doesn't help. Tried safety neutral switch fix and that did
> not help. Coach is a 1973. Has had a HEI distrubutor installed. Any help
> greatly appreciated. She is starting to freak out and don't want to lose a
> new member of the cult just after she joined! We will be going to see if we
> can help in the morning.
>
>
> Bert and Fay Curtis
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Re: [GMCnet] dead coach [message #204604 is a reply to message #204603] Sun, 14 April 2013 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Burt and Faye curtis is currently offline  Burt and Faye curtis   United States
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Emery,

Will give that a check out. Would that also kill the headlights?

Bert and Fay Curtis
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Re: [GMCnet] dead coach [message #204605 is a reply to message #204604] Sun, 14 April 2013 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike miller   United States
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I'm not Emery, but yes, bad grounds in the starting circuit can cause no start while the headlights still "work".

Sounds to me to be the classic "hot start" problem, often caused by bad grounds but could be the starter. Other things to look for (before changing the starter) would be corrosion on all the connections to and from the starter. A bad connection on either the positive or negative side will drop voltage. When starting a big block with only 12 volts, it doesn't take much loss to make it not work.

Burt and Faye curtis wrote on Sun, 14 April 2013 02:11

Emery,

Will give that a check out. Would that also kill the headlights?
Emery Stora wrote on Sun, 14 April 2013 01:53

Sounds like a bad battery cable or bad ground to engine block to me.

Emery Stora

On Apr 14, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Burt and Faye curtis <curtisunlimitedbandf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Friend found and bought coach Friday - drove it home, parked it and turned
> it off. Then tried to start it again to move it to a safer location -
> moments after turning it off. Will not startT.Doesn't even try to
> crank. Headlights will not come on. tested batteries and voltages are good.
> Using bat switch doesn't help. Tried safety neutral switch fix and that did
> not help. Coach is a 1973. Has had a HEI distrubutor installed. Any help
> greatly appreciated. She is starting to freak out and don't want to lose a
> new member of the cult just after she joined! We will be going to see if we
> can help in the morning.
>
> Bert and Fay Curtis




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Re: [GMCnet] dead coach [message #204606 is a reply to message #204605] Sun, 14 April 2013 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike miller   United States
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Opps! Just re-read... yes, bad grounds could also cause the sightly different problem of not start and no headlights.. Rolling Eyes

The good thing is the starter is most likely ok and the "bad ground issue" is most likely from the battery to the block. The block end doesn't get looked at very often... most likely there, but check the battery end first... it is easier!


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Re: [GMCnet] dead coach [message #204610 is a reply to message #204603] Sun, 14 April 2013 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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I'm with Emery. No start + no lights = no juice. I'd get a 12V test light probe and start at the battery terminals.

I'm betting on dirty/corroded/loose battery connections or cables.

You said the boost didn't help. Do we know if the house battery is good?


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Re: [GMCnet] dead coach [message #204611 is a reply to message #204604] Sun, 14 April 2013 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Yes. Turn on the headlights. If they work, turn the key while they're
on. If they dim, the switches are in good order, the cable connections may
be bad. Pretty typical. Check the connections at both ends.
Steve


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Burt and Faye curtis <
curtisunlimitedbandf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Emery,
>
> Will give that a check out. Would that also kill the headlights?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] dead coach [message #204628 is a reply to message #204604] Sun, 14 April 2013 09:19 Go to previous message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Yes, i believe it would cut off the headlights, starter, and accessories on the engine side. Check the positive battery where it connects to the battery post and its other end where it attaches to the solenoid. Also check the battery negative cable from the battery post to the engine block.

Also clean the battery terminals and check the cables to be sure that the terminals are not corroded under the covering where the cables attach to the terminals.

Emery Stora

On Apr 14, 2013, at 3:11 AM, Burt and Faye curtis <curtisunlimitedbandf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Emery,
>
> Will give that a check out. Would that also kill the headlights?
>
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