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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188287 is a reply to message #188281] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 21:50 |
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The procedure works for Forum users. And, yes, it would be great if those
posting via the Forum would always included the link to the embedded photo.
However, people being people, something will break down along the way.
Those of use reading posts via our email apps and responding accordingly
can't embed a photo unless we put in the url appropriately. Most of use
using email clients strip down to raw text at 80 columns. Hence, you can
easily tell if someone is posting via the Forum or their email client to the
GMCNet.
So, this is all well and good for posting pictures, etc. However, the
original issue remains -- putting stuff somewhere and loosing
control/access.
Also, there's the whole thing of trying to get things organized somehow so
that new users/owner don't have to spend four months learning how to search
all over creation when they could be fixing or driving their GMCs.
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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> To be honest, I had not considered the email folks. I whined about moving to
> forums about 10 years back but after about 10 minutes, I saw the light.
> Praise the Lord! Hallelujah!
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> Anyway, I THINK that Al came up with a simple solution, that is to post the
> LINK and the PHOTO.
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> Like this. This is the link which was a simple paste into the thread of the
> same URL as the photo image (right click on the photo of choice, select copy
> image location, and copy to clipboard by pressing CNTL and C at the same time)
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> http://images.craigslist.org/5L95Gd5K23k13L53Hac97e56df4ac338d15e4.jpg
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> and this is the Photo image which was the same URL pasted into the image box
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> Simple enough solution it seems to me. Email users get the text and if they
> want to see the corresponding photo, they can click on it. Forum users see
> the photos inline with the descriptions.
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> Would an email user verify that you see the link and it is clickable?
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> As far as bandwidth goes, the read request pulls the text from the forum
> software and parses out the image requests which results in a read request to
> the image server. The image is sent back and placed in the appropriate date
> stream to the requestor. The GMCNet sees NO additional bandwidth. However,
> the photo site has to respond to the image requests every time the post is
> requested (read).
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188293 is a reply to message #188174] |
Thu, 25 October 2012 22:27 |
drstretchgsi
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Beautiful - works for me!
MH Murphy drstretchgsi@juno.com
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:47:51 -0500
Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 25 October 2012 13:20
> Kerry,
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> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your photo-inclusion efforts are for naught for many GMCNeters. That is, those of us who use email only, never the Phorum. Our messages are pure text -- NO attachments nor higher order ASCII characters or graphics allowed. For example, I got only a couple of blank lines after your "Using the approach described below you can have your photos shown INSIDE your post like this:"
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> Since we are such a large proportion, perhaps even a majority, of those monitoring and posting, links to GMCMHPhotos continues to be the best option. And it's not likely most of us will ever be converted to the Phorum, at least in its present form, despite considerable harassment by a few individuals... :)
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> Ken H.
Ken,
I think Kerry is proposing a method that will work for BOTH email users and forum users. Forum users get a picture imbedded in the post, and email users don't get something they don't want.
Here's a test of what I am talking about. If it works, forum users will see a picture of my proposed floor plan from the photo site accompanied by a URL, and email users will see the URL. Email users can do whatever they normally do on the URL to view the picture, forum users can ignore the URL and just view the photo.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6131/medium/Floor_Plan_Proposed.jpg
If you can see the URL, and can open it, let us know and we can declare this a win-win.
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan oil spill [message #188315 is a reply to message #188302] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 07:27 |
powerjon
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As Gene says and Duane would have said, NO WATER! Wipe it down with
lots of rags or shop towels and use a little solvent such as brake
clean on the exterior parts of the Onan.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
> Not much help here from Duane
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/generator.html#water
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> he says
> - no water
> - wipe it down
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> gene
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>> I fired up the Onan today for the first time since getting help
>> from Ken B
>> to get it running. (Thanks again Ken!)
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>> I fired it up from inside the coach and everything was running
>> great. I
>> walked outside to the generator compartment (it had been running
>> for about
>> 2-3 minutes) when I saw oil spewing out of the bottom of the
>> generator
>> compartment. I ran into the coach and hit the shutoff switch and
>> then
>> opened the compartment to see what had happened. Apparently the oil
>> dipstick cover had rattled loose and oil was bubbling up over the
>> entire
>> generator. So now I've got an Onan absolutely covered in oil.
>> (and there
>> is some older oil there as well which leads me to believe this had
>> been a
>> problem in the past)...
>>
>> What's the best way to get the Onan cleaned up without damaging
>> anything
>> or ruining the paint?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jared
>> 73 PD
>> Amissville, VA
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188336 is a reply to message #188328] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 12:08 |
midlf
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Fri, 26 October 2012 10:41 | How did all these other threads get mixed into this one?
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It's called thread hijacking. Email users hit "reply" and change the subject line. The Forum looks to a tag on the email, not the subject, to determine if it is part of the thread.
In this case Werewilfs hit reply to Ken Henderson's latest reply on the social media thread. He hit reply and changed the subject line. Thus a thread highjack. The opposite is some email clients strip off the tag so when someone replies by email it looks like a new thread to the forum. This causes the thread fracturing on the forum.
There are advantages and disadvantages to each system. The big advantage to the net/forum combination is the doubling of the audience/contributor base and the elimination of a GMC'er to have to track two systems to get the information they need. Overall I feel the "combination" system advantages outweigh the disadvantages. If you prefer one over the other, learn to determine which posts come from the other system and see how much you would loose if the systems were "split".
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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Re: [GMCnet] should I bag my plans to do bag work [message #188338 is a reply to message #188322] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 12:14 |
powerjon
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Doug,
See comments!
> I have extenders to mount my air bags higher so I can run at a lower
> pressure. Planned to do the job today. I am partly prepared,
> bought used extenders a year ago, bought a 1 and an eighth socket
> Tuesday. Asked for an eighteen sixteenths socket and the guy could
> not find it. Ha, he did not appreciate my humor!
>
> Now the questions:
> 1. do I have to remove the T skirt?
Yes, you need to remove the T skirt. It is very difficult the do the
work with the skirt in place.
> 2. will I need more air line and connectors as the location will move?
Hard to say, most like not.
> 3. will I need to move the leveling valves?
NO you do not need to move or touch the leveling valves.
> Removing the shutoff and schrader valves looks problematic; can I
> just unscrew the bag from the last connection of the air line parts?
You should be able you remove the fittings before the bag fittings as
an assembly. Just do not unscrew the fitting from the bag as it has
an O-ring that provide the seal.
> Can I use Teflon tape or should I use some kind of paste to seal the
> connections?
I would avoid the use of teflon tape anywhere on the coach. A teflon
paste is probably best for most if not all air fittings.
> I had a lot more questions but they were answered on Gene's site.
>
> Is the correct answer, "take it to Jim"?
No, do it yourself, easy job!
>
> Doug Norton
> 73 Sequoia towing the tiny teal tone toad
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188402 is a reply to message #188336] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 20:02 |
werewilfs
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My fault... I didn't realize just changing the subject didn't create a new thread. I'll be sure to just create a new thread from the website in the future or start a clean email rather than hitting reply.
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188405 is a reply to message #188403] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 20:15 |
werewilfs
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That's actually why I prefer the email format... I can sort them by subject and go through them all and be sure to not miss anything. Once I am done, I just move them all to a separate folder.
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media
Not a big deal
Just read them all :)
Gene
FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
On Oct 26, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Jared & Stefanie Kohl <vacougfan@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> My fault... I didn't realize just changing the subject didn't create a new thread. I'll be sure to just create a new thread from the website in the future or start a clean email rather than hitting reply.
> --
> Jared & Stefanie Kohl
> Amissville, VA
> 1973 Painted Desert
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188420 is a reply to message #188405] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 23:45 |
Don A
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If you use the forum, you don't need to sort or move them.
They are already sorted, clicking on the arrow takes you to the new, unread msg. But if you need to check earlier posts, just scroll up.
No need to save them to a folder, there all there ready to search by subject, contents or author.
That's why I prefer the forum, quicker and easier, less work.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba [IMG]http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6109/G2.jpg[/IMG]
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188426 is a reply to message #188420] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 05:55 |
Ken Henderson
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As an email user, after trying the forum, I did miss the threading. But
then I began to use GMail and discovered just how good threading could
really be: GMail automatically threads by SUBJECT so there are no hijacked
threads. And it automatically abbreviates previously read message so
they're not obtrusive. Then, to "put the blush on the rose", it
automatically conceals previous message quotations, leaving only "..."
which can be selected if one wants to view that usually unnecessary text.
Beyond that, GMail's Folders can be used to preserve and organize archives
with virtually no effort; each incoming email is filtered and sent to the
folder(s) one specifies. Since GMail preserves everything "forever", and
utilizes Google's search techniques, it's trivially simple to find 'most
anything.
I think I've got the best of both worlds, email and forum, by using GMail.
Ken H.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Don Adams wrote:
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> If you use the forum, you don't need to sort or move them.
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> They are already sorted, clicking on the arrow takes you to the new,
> unread msg. But if you need to check earlier posts, just scroll up.
>
> No need to save them to a folder, there all there ready to search by
> subject, contents or author.
>
> That's why I prefer the forum, quicker and easier, less work. :)
>
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188435 is a reply to message #188426] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 09:48 |
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 27 October 2012 06:55 | <snip>
I think I've got the best of both worlds, email and forum, by using GMail.
Ken H.
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I started out running GMC.net as e-mail, but not with Gmail (more on that) and one of the things that drove me crazy was the number of replies with no quote and sometimes in a highjack without a subject change.
So, just what does "That is what I did." mean?
Gmail is not bad, but I have seven e-mail accounts.
Why?
To separate the incoming messages automatically and allow instant prioritization.
2 Accounts are for the boat biz - was 3, but I dropped 1
1 Gmail account is just for GMC stuff
1 Gmail account is for my own casual stuff
1 ISP account is a throw away, where I send people I don't want to hear from but demand an @ddress
1 ISP account is for casual personal stuff
1 ISP account is for casual family stuff (we both read it)
and a final ISP account is for serious family stuff.
The system works quite well and I can read them all at once when I open T-bird on the laptop.
GMail is real annoying in the native cloud version because it will not even accommodate the 2 accounts that I have. Just like most webmail accounts, it is one (1)(uno)(ein)(ichi) account per page, so reading both Gmail accounts in native is a major PITA. You have to log off, go back to home and tell you are not who they think you are, enter a new username and password and go back in. With Gmail on a slow tether or some pinched wifi, this can take a while.
Can you tell I work E-mail harder than most? We have had @ddresses for over twenty years and if you don't have an @ in your name, you will very rarely hear from me.
Before I carried wire (internet access) in the office(GMC), having the e-mail stored on my own drive was very important. massages from clients were always available to me. It is less so now, because I tether and business (VERY discretionary in nature) has just plain evaporated in the last three years.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188439 is a reply to message #188435] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 10:46 |
Ken Henderson
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Matt,
My email situation isn't nearly as complex as yours, but I think you missed
a couple of GMail features. I'm certain GMail can handle you various
accounts and segregate them as you like.
I have my basic GMail account plus two Bellsouth addresses. All three
merge into my GMail account. For a couple of years Google went out to
Bellsouth and pulled in all the email from there. A few months ago
Bellsouth become more AT&T-ized and quit responding to those requests for
some formatting reason. When I went to AT&T to correct the situation, I
found that I could just have AT&T forward everything to GMail, so that's
how I'm now running. Either method works fine.
When that "foreign" email arrives, it's treated just like GMail -- it goes
into the common Inbox -- unless I've set up a filter to route it to another
folder -- which is trivially simple to do. The folder arrangement
is hierarchical so you can easily arrange things as you choose.
I can set GMail to label my outgoing traffic as if it were from any one of
the accounts by default; or, I can select the outgoing account for the
current message.
I couldn't be happier except for one thing: I can't easily download
messages to read later. A couple of years ago GMail had a beta off-line
version which I used for a while. It had a few not-too-major problems
which caused me to abandon it. I haven't tried the latest version in over
a year. If I were travelling more, I would.
Ken H.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
> ...
> GMail is real annoying in the native cloud version because it will not
> even accommodate the 2 accounts that I have. Just like most webmail
> accounts, it is one (1)(uno)(ein)(ichi) account per page, so reading both
> Gmail accounts in native is a major PITA. You have to log off, go back to
> home and tell you are not who they think you are, enter a new username and
> password and go back in. With Gmail on a slow tether or some pinched wifi,
> this can take a while.
...
>
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188442 is a reply to message #188435] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 12:11 |
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Matt
You need to looka little closer at gmail. My email requirements are more
demanding than yours. I have most everything copied to gmail and am able
to keepthem separate and prioritized.
I also keep originals archived locally just in case with very little effort.
Bdub
On Oct 27, 2012 9:48 AM, "Matt Colie" <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 27 October 2012 06:55
> > <snip>
> > I think I've got the best of both worlds, email and forum, by using
> GMail.
> >
> > Ken H.
>
> I started out running GMC.net as e-mail, but not with Gmail (more on that)
> and one of the things that drove me crazy was the number of replies with no
> quote and sometimes in a highjack without a subject change.
>
> So, just what does "That is what I did." mean?
>
> Gmail is not bad, but I have seven e-mail accounts.
> Why?
> To separate the incoming messages automatically and allow instant
> prioritization.
> 2 Accounts are for the boat biz - was 3, but I dropped 1
> 1 Gmail account is just for GMC stuff
> 1 Gmail account is for my own casual stuff
> 1 ISP account is a throw away, where I send people I don't want to hear
> from but demand an @ddress
> 1 ISP account is for casual personal stuff
> 1 ISP account is for casual family stuff (we both read it)
> and a final ISP account is for serious family stuff.
> The system works quite well and I can read them all at once when I open
> T-bird on the laptop.
>
> GMail is real annoying in the native cloud version because it will not
> even accommodate the 2 accounts that I have. Just like most webmail
> accounts, it is one (1)(uno)(ein)(ichi) account per page, so reading both
> Gmail accounts in native is a major PITA. You have to log off, go back to
> home and tell you are not who they think you are, enter a new username and
> password and go back in. With Gmail on a slow tether or some pinched wifi,
> this can take a while.
>
> Can you tell I work E-mail harder than most? We have had @ddresses for
> over twenty years and if you don't have an @ in your name, you will very
> rarely hear from me.
>
> Before I carried wire (internet access) in the office(GMC), having the
> e-mail stored on my own drive was very important. massages from clients
> were always available to me. It is less so now, because I tether and
> business (VERY discretionary in nature) has just plain evaporated in the
> last three years.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #188552 is a reply to message #188405] |
Sun, 28 October 2012 17:22 |
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I used to do that. Then I discovered something. I never went back to read
stuff because new stuff was always coming in. Now I've discovered the trash.
It works wonders at keeping things slimmed down. Nice, since the Ken's
phorum exists for things "past tense".
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Jared & Stefanie Kohl wrote:
> That's actually why I prefer the email format... I can sort them by subject
> and go through them all and be sure to not miss anything. Once I am done, I
> just move them all to a separate folder.
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>
>
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> From: "mr.erfisher@gmail.com" <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media
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> Not a big deal
>
> Just read them all :)
> Gene
>
> FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
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> On Oct 26, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Jared & Stefanie Kohl <vacougfan@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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>> My fault... I didn't realize just changing the subject didn't create a new
>> thread. I'll be sure to just create a new thread from the website in the
>> future or start a clean email rather than hitting reply.
>> --
>> Jared & Stefanie Kohl
>> Amissville, VA
>> 1973 Painted Desert
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[GMCnet] Fwd: The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media [message #203462 is a reply to message #188174] |
Wed, 03 April 2013 06:01 |
Mr ERFisher
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I think it is time to cover this topic again
the only place "we" can own the GMC information is
bdub and the photo site. (send him money:>)
the "clouds" and other photo sites, own your information when you use them
and
they will remove your data without notice
JWID
gene
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From: gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 4:07 AM
Subject: The risk of publishing GMC info on Social Media
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
I am not trying to create a controversy here
I am just showing some of the problems in saving 40 years of GMC technical
information.
I am going to use two of my friends for examples ( I hope they ok with this)
Bdub has the only site that has long-term life for GMC information.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/
Over the last 10 years, other sites, have come and gone, and we have lost
the information stored there (about 1/2 of my links are broken).
- Photo sites, are there to sell you something, and when they wish, they go
away, or sell you back your own data
- you have no control of how they control your data
EX-1
Gary Berry has many fine contributions over the years
HIs videos were famous, but now Utube has decided they no longer support
some of the old links like this one for GMCWS rally's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqK6xa2Sf00
His current information, is in photo bucket, which is allowing viewing only
one picture a a time
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fulsgld/1973%20CanyonLands%20Stretch%20GMC/Burned%20Floor/HoleintheFloor1.jpg
while a GMCphoto store, presentation allows "smart devices" like
(pads,pods,phones,tablets), allows them to be seen "forever"
with a single finger swipe using modern technology.
http://goo.gl/a8c7Q
EX2
Social Media sites let data go away at their own schedule
1 last year Google discontinued one form of presentation, leaving the
GMCefi group to scramble, and archive their own data and move to a new
format.
2 Some clubs / orgnizations decide (on their own) to capture freely
donated information, and 10 years later, decide to sell it back for
members-only
like this classic document, once free, now only available to 1/8 th of the
GMC community
http://www.gmcmi.com/mem-bers/TechHandouts/Powermaster.pdf
3 Pictures with their technical documentation are not welcome on the Forum,
and are difficult to link to (but thanks Eugene for all of your work)
4 I recently captured this picture from the FACEBOOK gmc site I liked the
picture, but have not determined how to id it for the future - afraid it
will go away
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/famous-locations-with-gmc/p46188-momo-driller.html
5 Utube, I do not know how to archive their information, for the future. It
looks like they throw it away after about 2 years.
6 One ,regional, club, last year redesigned their web site, I begged them
to bring back the technical files ( most were irreplaceable and not
archived)
EX3
1 GMCphoto site is THE archive for GMC information
- members come and pass away :>(, but their , data, pictures, and manuals
remain,
Example,J Harper (gone for 2 years), (notice the last link to a GB topic,
no longer works;>(
http://gmcmotorhome.info/toad.html#vw
2 GMCphoto site is ours (thanks Bdub)
3 it does not work real well on PPPT devices, but I think it will.
4 Send money to GMCphoto site
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/
5 where will we archive now that DVDs are too small? (Apple just got rid of
them)
JWID
Just some of my feelings,
off to bed now
gene
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Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
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Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
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http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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