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Re: [GMCnet] make paint shine [message #203373] Tue, 02 April 2013 05:23 Go to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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WELL DONE TERRY

got you up on the "wall of shame:>)
http://gmcmotorhome.info/skin.html

got the zep, going to give it a try on 2 GMCs
gene



On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Terry Taylor <n6mon@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Restoring the finish of an older RV using ZWLFF:
>
> Materials:
> -Zep Wet Look Floor finish (Step 3) (available at Home Depot)
> -Bar Keeper’s Friend (powdered)
> -TSP (Trisodium Phosphate, powdered)
> -3M scrubbies (white, fine)
> -Microfiber rags (white or laundered)
> -Latex gloves
>
> Preparing the surface is the most important part, since anything left on
> the surface will be sealed under the ZWLFF acrylic coating, and improper
> prep can also result in peeling/flaking later. I repeat: The prep-work is
> the most important part! Do not try to cut corners here. The cleaner your
> RV is, the better your final results will be.
>
> Step 1: Start by washing your RV well as you normally would, making sure
> to include the roof, and rinsing well from the top down.
>
> Step 2: You now want to remove any and all stains, soiling, oxidation, and
> chalkiness from the surface. Dip a white 3M scrubbie into water and then
> liberally sprinkle Bar Keeper’s Friend (BKF) on it. Scrub the surface of
> the motorhome, rinsing the scrubbie and re-applying the BKF often. Do small
> areas at a time, rinsing well with water and a sponge as you go (Rinsing
> well is important to remove all BKF residue. I used a "flow-thru" brush
> attached to a hose to rinse the BKF residue thoroughly).
>
> Step 3: Next you want to make sure that there is absolutely no remaining
> wax on the RV, since any residual wax can cause the ZWLFF to peel and
> flake. Mix up a bucket of TSP (1/2 cup) in water (2 gal), and use it to
> wash the entire RV again. You can use it with a carwash brush, a sponge, a
> pressure washer…anything you would normally use to wash your RV. Rinse well
> as you go, then rinse again and let it dry completely (again, rinsing well
> is important to remove all TSP residue). You should now be left with a
> clean and smooth (although dull) wax-free surface. Congrats, the hard part
> is done!
>
> Step 4: Now comes the easy part. Shake the ZWLFF well, and pour some into
> a shallow container (a pie pan works well). Fold a microfiber rag to about
> hand-sized, dip it into the ZWLFF (trust me, use gloves!), and squeeze out
> the excess. How much/how wet? You want it more than damp, but less than
> dripping. Now simply wipe down the surface of the RV with the wet
> microfiber rag. Don’t try to apply a heavy coat or try to “rub it in”; just
> wet the surface (imagine wiping off a layer of dust with a damp rag). It
> really doesn’t matter whether you wipe horizontally, vertically, or in
> circles, and don’t worry about overlaps; ZWLFF is very thin/watery and you
> are just trying to “moisten” the surface. Work your way all the way around
> the RV. The thin coat of ZWLFF will dry very quickly; long before you’ve
> gone all the way around it will be dry and you can immediately start on the
> next coat.
>
> That first coat will likely look really bad; streaky, blotchy, shiny in
> some places, dull in others…don’t panic. Each additional coat will start to
> even it out and build up a deep layer of shine. By coat 3, you will be
> grinning ear to ear. And coat 4 (or 5?) will be the icing on the cake. Not
> only will your RV shine like it hasn’t shined in years, it will be a deeper
> color as well*. Even old, faded graphics will have a new lease on life! All
> for less than $30 total!
>
> *Note: This procedure will slightly change/darken the color/shade of your
> RV.
>
> Things (I learned) to keep in mind:
>
> -Don’t use new colored microfiber rags until they have been laundered, as
> the color may bleed.
>
> -Don’t try to “over-apply”, or try for a heavy coat, or you will get runs.
> The thinner, the better. Remember, you’re just trying to “moisten” the
> surface with each thin coat, nothing more. If you are getting a lot of
> runs, you’re applying it too heavily.
>
> -Be careful around window frames, locks, latches, etc., as the ZWLFF is
> very watery and will have a tendency to gather and cause runs. ZWLFF dries
> fast, so keep an eye out for any runs and give them a quick wipe before
> they start to “set up”.
>
> -Some older, deteriorated graphics may “bleed” color onto the rag and
> surrounding areas. If you notice any bleeding during the BKF or TSP stage
> (steps 2 and 3), then give a quick wipe of ZWLFF across the graphics prior
> to step 4, which will seal them up. Then go ahead and apply the ZWLFF to
> the entire RV (including the now sealed graphics) as per step 4 of the
> tutorial.
>
> -After each coat, go around and open/operate all hatches, locks, catches,
> etc. The ZWLFF acrylic coating can sort of “glue” them closed
>



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Re: [GMCnet] make paint shine [message #203388 is a reply to message #203373] Tue, 02 April 2013 08:21 Go to previous message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Everything Terry said is absolutely correct and I would include that if you
get even the slightest run, which can happen when you pass the application
rag over an irregular surface, deal with it immediately. It is tough to
remove a run even with a razor blade after it has cured. Curing on a warm
day can take just a few minutes. It will take at least 3 or 4 thin coats
to get the even shine you are trying for.


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:23 AM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:

> WELL DONE TERRY
>
> got you up on the "wall of shame:>)
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/skin.html
>
> got the zep, going to give it a try on 2 GMCs
> gene
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Terry Taylor <n6mon@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Restoring the finish of an older RV using ZWLFF:
> >
> > Materials:
> > -Zep Wet Look Floor finish (Step 3) (available at Home Depot)
> > -Bar Keeper’s Friend (powdered)
> > -TSP (Trisodium Phosphate, powdered)
> > -3M scrubbies (white, fine)
> > -Microfiber rags (white or laundered)
> > -Latex gloves
> >
> > Preparing the surface is the most important part, since anything left on
> > the surface will be sealed under the ZWLFF acrylic coating, and improper
> > prep can also result in peeling/flaking later. I repeat: The prep-work is
> > the most important part! Do not try to cut corners here. The cleaner your
> > RV is, the better your final results will be.
> >
> > Step 1: Start by washing your RV well as you normally would, making sure
> > to include the roof, and rinsing well from the top down.
> >
> > Step 2: You now want to remove any and all stains, soiling, oxidation,
> and
> > chalkiness from the surface. Dip a white 3M scrubbie into water and then
> > liberally sprinkle Bar Keeper’s Friend (BKF) on it. Scrub the surface of
> > the motorhome, rinsing the scrubbie and re-applying the BKF often. Do
> small
> > areas at a time, rinsing well with water and a sponge as you go (Rinsing
> > well is important to remove all BKF residue. I used a "flow-thru" brush
> > attached to a hose to rinse the BKF residue thoroughly).
> >
> > Step 3: Next you want to make sure that there is absolutely no remaining
> > wax on the RV, since any residual wax can cause the ZWLFF to peel and
> > flake. Mix up a bucket of TSP (1/2 cup) in water (2 gal), and use it to
> > wash the entire RV again. You can use it with a carwash brush, a sponge,
> a
> > pressure washer…anything you would normally use to wash your RV. Rinse
> well
> > as you go, then rinse again and let it dry completely (again, rinsing
> well
> > is important to remove all TSP residue). You should now be left with a
> > clean and smooth (although dull) wax-free surface. Congrats, the hard
> part
> > is done!
> >
> > Step 4: Now comes the easy part. Shake the ZWLFF well, and pour some into
> > a shallow container (a pie pan works well). Fold a microfiber rag to
> about
> > hand-sized, dip it into the ZWLFF (trust me, use gloves!), and squeeze
> out
> > the excess. How much/how wet? You want it more than damp, but less than
> > dripping. Now simply wipe down the surface of the RV with the wet
> > microfiber rag. Don’t try to apply a heavy coat or try to “rub it in”;
> just
> > wet the surface (imagine wiping off a layer of dust with a damp rag). It
> > really doesn’t matter whether you wipe horizontally, vertically, or in
> > circles, and don’t worry about overlaps; ZWLFF is very thin/watery and
> you
> > are just trying to “moisten” the surface. Work your way all the way
> around
> > the RV. The thin coat of ZWLFF will dry very quickly; long before you’ve
> > gone all the way around it will be dry and you can immediately start on
> the
> > next coat.
> >
> > That first coat will likely look really bad; streaky, blotchy, shiny in
> > some places, dull in others…don’t panic. Each additional coat will start
> to
> > even it out and build up a deep layer of shine. By coat 3, you will be
> > grinning ear to ear. And coat 4 (or 5?) will be the icing on the cake.
> Not
> > only will your RV shine like it hasn’t shined in years, it will be a
> deeper
> > color as well*. Even old, faded graphics will have a new lease on life!
> All
> > for less than $30 total!
> >
> > *Note: This procedure will slightly change/darken the color/shade of your
> > RV.
> >
> > Things (I learned) to keep in mind:
> >
> > -Don’t use new colored microfiber rags until they have been laundered, as
> > the color may bleed.
> >
> > -Don’t try to “over-apply”, or try for a heavy coat, or you will get
> runs.
> > The thinner, the better. Remember, you’re just trying to “moisten” the
> > surface with each thin coat, nothing more. If you are getting a lot of
> > runs, you’re applying it too heavily.
> >
> > -Be careful around window frames, locks, latches, etc., as the ZWLFF is
> > very watery and will have a tendency to gather and cause runs. ZWLFF
> dries
> > fast, so keep an eye out for any runs and give them a quick wipe before
> > they start to “set up”.
> >
> > -Some older, deteriorated graphics may “bleed” color onto the rag and
> > surrounding areas. If you notice any bleeding during the BKF or TSP stage
> > (steps 2 and 3), then give a quick wipe of ZWLFF across the graphics
> prior
> > to step 4, which will seal them up. Then go ahead and apply the ZWLFF to
> > the entire RV (including the now sealed graphics) as per step 4 of the
> > tutorial.
> >
> > -After each coat, go around and open/operate all hatches, locks, catches,
> > etc. The ZWLFF acrylic coating can sort of “glue” them closed
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
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> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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