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Mon, 11 March 2013 13:05  |
jhbridges
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While we're talking wipers. Does anyone have a solution to the lower sides of the windshileds other than Rain-X? Even treated, it's hard for me to see in the mirrors in heavy rain although the wipers keep the ahead view clear. Maybe a set of the little headlight wipers like they put on Mercedes to cover the bottom side orf each windshield?
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201355 is a reply to message #201348] |
Mon, 11 March 2013 19:45  |
jhbridges
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I don't believe there's a reasonable location which will put them - especially the left one - in the wiper arc and still show the side of the coach. As an object lesson, get a mirror and a stepladder. Set the mirror on a step, or tape it to the side of the ladder, at windshield height. Now place it such that you can from the driver's seat and through the wiper arc see the side of the coach in the mirror. I believe it's gonna be waaaaay out in front of the coach.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 11 March 2013 13:05
> While we're talking wipers. Does anyone have a solution to the lower sides of the windshileds other than Rain-X? Even treated, it's hard for me to see in the mirrors in heavy rain although the wipers keep the ahead view clear. Maybe a set of the little headlight wipers like they put on Mercedes to cover the bottom side of each windshield?
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> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
Move the mirrors?
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201376 is a reply to message #201357] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 07:42 |
jhbridges
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You're looking out the side as it is. I'll check the nixt time I'm driving in the rai, you might could relocate them to see them ou the toll window - I don't know if it is as obscured as the windshiled sides cos I never noticed.
--johnny
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 11 March 2013 19:45
> I don't believe there's a reasonable location which will put them - especially the left one - in the wiper arc and still show the side of the coach. As an object lesson, get a mirror and a stepladder. Set the mirror on a step, or tape it to the side of the ladder, at windshield height. Now place it such that you can from the driver's seat and through the wiper arc see the side of the coach in the mirror. I believe it's gonna be waaaaay out in front of the coach.
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> --johnny
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> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
Can you see out of the side windows when it is raining? On most cars you look through the door windows to see the mirrors.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201377 is a reply to message #201358] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 08:51 |
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GM missed the boat when they didn't install pantograph wipers.
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers
Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 11 March 2013 19:45
> I don't believe there's a reasonable location which will put them - especially
>the left one - in the wiper arc and still show the side of the coach. As an
>object lesson, get a mirror and a stepladder. Set the mirror on a step, or tape
>it to the side of the ladder, at windshield height. Now place it such that you
>can from the driver's seat and through the wiper arc see the side of the coach
>in the mirror. I believe it's gonna be waaaaay out in front of the coach.
>
> --johnny
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> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
Can you see out of the side windows when it is raining? On most cars you look
through the door windows to see the mirrors.
Updated. That might be too far to turn your head. Taking your eyes too far off
the road.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201383 is a reply to message #201312] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 09:47 |
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Johnny, I think this might be a good place to try side cams. Maybe use wireless rearview cams ($20-ish) if you already have a dvd screen on board. I'll wait for an android or ipad app using cheap ip cams.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201396 is a reply to message #201377] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 11:22 |
jhbridges
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Yeh, but even pantographs I don't think would make it around the curve - the radius is too close.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers
GM missed the boat when they didn't install pantograph wipers.
Ray
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers
Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 11 March 2013 19:45
> I don't believe there's a reasonable location which will put them - especially
>the left one - in the wiper arc and still show the side of the coach. As an
>object lesson, get a mirror and a stepladder. Set the mirror on a step, or tape
>it to the side of the ladder, at windshield height. Now place it such that you
>can from the driver's seat and through the wiper arc see the side of the coach
>in the mirror. I believe it's gonna be waaaaay out in front of the coach.
>
> --johnny
>
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
Can you see out of the side windows when it is raining? On most cars you look
through the door windows to see the mirrors.
Updated. That might be too far to turn your head. Taking your eyes too far off
the road.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201399 is a reply to message #201383] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 11:33 |
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I don't have a screen in the coach. However even adding one might well be cheeeper than installing a set of Men's Mall small wipers. The concern I'd have is rainwater blowing onto the camera lens.
Anybody with side cams, how do they do in the wet??
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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Johnny, I think this might be a good place to try side cams. Maybe use wireless rearview cams ($20-ish) if you already have a dvd screen on board. I'll wait for an android or ipad app using cheap ip cams.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201400 is a reply to message #201312] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 11:45 |
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I don't know if there is a cam being sold as a sidecam yet. It seems it'd be easy to adapt cheap, waterproof rearview cams, though. Maybe mount them on the mirror or even on the top gutter rail.
I've used $5 usb cams to watch/log suspension and undercarriage issues on cars. I also use them to watch equipment in crawlspaces and attics. Anyway, for $5, I might just fix a window clip and see how it holds up in the rain.
Spray is a concern, though I'm betting it can be set to work at least as well as the rearview cams being used now.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201406 is a reply to message #201400] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 12:38 |
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The Remco mirror mounts have space to thread wires through them, clipped on the mirror would be the move. I'll go looking, I need to pull wires (Found out I have electric mirrors that were never connected) and I can pull a piece of vid cable at the same time.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'756 palm beach
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I don't know if there is a cam being sold as a sidecam yet. It seems it'd be easy to adapt cheap, waterproof rearview cams, though. Maybe mount them on the mirror or even on the top gutter rail.
I've used $5 usb cams to watch/log suspension and undercarriage issues on cars. I also use them to watch equipment in crawlspaces and attics. Anyway, for $5, I might just fix a window clip and see how it holds up in the rain.
Spray is a concern, though I'm betting it can be set to work at least as well as the rearview cams being used now.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201408 is a reply to message #201312] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 12:59 |
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I've NOT used this vendor yet, Johnny, but go to http://www.lightinthebox.com/ and search on rear view cameras. They were advertising on Amazon, that's all I know about them. But they have a pretty good assortment of waterproof cams. Some of them have a smaller footprint that might work out well on a mirror bracket.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201421 is a reply to message #201400] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 16:18 |
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| rcjordan wrote on Tue, 12 March 2013 11:45 |
I don't know if there is a cam being sold as a sidecam yet. It seems it'd be easy to adapt cheap, waterproof rearview cams, though. Maybe mount them on the mirror or even on the top gutter rail.
I've used $5 usb cams to watch/log suspension and undercarriage issues on cars. I also use them to watch equipment in crawlspaces and attics. Anyway, for $5, I might just fix a window clip and see how it holds up in the rain.
Spray is a concern, though I'm betting it can be set to work at least as well as the rearview cams being used now.
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wouldn't you then need wipers on the camera??
I don't see the issue, no car on the road has wipers for the mirrors, you're always looking through the wet side windows at the mirror.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201429 is a reply to message #201312] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 17:32 |
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>I don't see the issue, no car on the road has wipers for the mirrors, you're always looking through the wet side windows at the mirror.
If I'm reading Johnny correctly, the wet side windows are the problem. He can't see the mirrors enough to use them in bad weather. If a small camera were placed facing to the coach's rear and the lens shielded, he'd be able to see the side view on a monitor inside.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201431 is a reply to message #201408] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 17:35 |
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I'll look. We buy a lot of stuff from Security Camera World at work, they likely have somethign too.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
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I've NOT used this vendor yet, Johnny, but go to http://www.lightinthebox.com/ and search on rear view cameras. They were advertising on Amazon, that's all I know about them. But they have a pretty good assortment of waterproof cams. Some of them have a smaller footprint that might work out well on a mirror bracket.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201432 is a reply to message #201421] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 18:08 |
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The issue is, I'm looking through a wet side wiondow which blows clear in the Toadstone or the Ranger or the Caravan. On the GMC, I'm looking through the lower side of the windshield which is covered with ALL the water which hit that side, and I can't see the g-d mirrors. Simple, really :)
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
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From: Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers
rcjordan wrote on Tue, 12 March 2013 11:45
> I don't know if there is a cam being sold as a sidecam yet. It seems it'd be easy to adapt cheap, waterproof rearview cams, though. Maybe mount them on the mirror or even on the top gutter rail.
>
> I've used $5 usb cams to watch/log suspension and undercarriage issues on cars. I also use them to watch equipment in crawlspaces and attics. Anyway, for $5, I might just fix a window clip and see how it holds up in the rain.
>
> Spray is a concern, though I'm betting it can be set to work at least as well as the rearview cams being used now.
wouldn't you then need wipers on the camera??
I don't see the issue, no car on the road has wipers for the mirrors, you're always looking through the wet side windows at the mirror.
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| Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers [message #201449 is a reply to message #201432] |
Tue, 12 March 2013 20:01 |
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Rain-X on the GMC windshield almost makes wipers irrelevant and makes it so
you can see your side mirrors even in heavy rain.
Mike, Dublin OH, 77 PB
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> The issue is, I'm looking through a wet side wiondow which blows clear in
> the Toadstone or the Ranger or the Caravan. On the GMC, I'm looking
> through the lower side of the windshield which is covered with ALL the
> water which hit that side, and I can't see the g-d mirrors. Simple, really
> :)
>
> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
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> From: Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] speaking of wipers
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> rcjordan wrote on Tue, 12 March 2013 11:45
> > I don't know if there is a cam being sold as a sidecam yet. It seems
> it'd be easy to adapt cheap, waterproof rearview cams, though. Maybe mount
> them on the mirror or even on the top gutter rail.
> >
> > I've used $5 usb cams to watch/log suspension and undercarriage issues
> on cars. I also use them to watch equipment in crawlspaces and attics.
> Anyway, for $5, I might just fix a window clip and see how it holds up in
> the rain.
> >
> > Spray is a concern, though I'm betting it can be set to work at least as
> well as the rearview cams being used now.
>
>
> wouldn't you then need wipers on the camera??
>
> I don't see the issue, no car on the road has wipers for the mirrors,
> you're always looking through the wet side windows at the mirror.
> --
> Keith
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