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[GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198244] Tue, 12 February 2013 16:33 Go to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Minnie got-er-done
here is a "very" large file
http://gmcws.org/blog/?p=1292

about
getting your gmc under control
by Steve Ferguson

Hard to keep Steve quiet,
he is either picking-n-grinnen
or has a lot to say

it is a really large file - so wait for it

all free and clear by GMCWS
thanks guys (Minnie)

and while you are there,
look at the GMC vendor push in the upper right corner

(these guys do it right)


thanks
gene

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Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198245 is a reply to message #198244] Tue, 12 February 2013 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rcjordan   United States
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Would it be OK to rip this into html and republish it on FullRetro.com ?? With credit and links to the club, of course.


SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198273 is a reply to message #198245] Tue, 12 February 2013 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
armandminnie is currently offline  armandminnie   United States
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I think that the best guy to get permission from is Steve Ferguson but you could definitely at least put a link anywhere else you wanted without anyone's OK.

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Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198300 is a reply to message #198245] Wed, 13 February 2013 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Not a problem. ASFIC all GMC information that helps owners should be
shared.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:

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>
> Would it be OK to rip this into html and republish it on FullRetro.com ??
> With credit and links to the club, of course.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198373 is a reply to message #198300] Wed, 13 February 2013 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>ASFIC all GMC information that helps owners should be
shared.

Thanks, Steve. And Armard for your hard work getting it into pdf. It's been converted. (Man! My eyes hurt from screen burn.)

http://www.fullretro.com/tips/GMC_Steering_Control_Arm/

If you want to add any additional comments under any of the pictures, Steve, just send them to me.


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Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198397 is a reply to message #198300] Wed, 13 February 2013 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Great presentation, Steve! Love those sample arms!

But what kind of diesel engine's in that 26' with 7000 lbs on the front end?

Ken H.


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> Not a problem. ASFIC all GMC information that helps owners should be
> shared.
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Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198422 is a reply to message #198373] Thu, 14 February 2013 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Very professional job RC.
You guys with those '73s and early '74s need to compare your lower
control arms with those in the photos. If they match, you are in trouble.
The first couple of photos show the cobbled up reinforcements that were
most likely accomplished by dealerships. The reason I suspect this is
because no two are alike and I've seen a lot of them. It is far less labor
intensive to locate a good pair of Eldo/Toro automobile lower control arms
and reinforce them like the later factory ones are, than it is to remove
all the phweet the dealerships welded on and then accomplish the
reenforcement and stiffening.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:

>
>
> >ASFIC all GMC information that helps owners should be
> shared.
>
> Thanks, Steve. And Armard for your hard work getting it into pdf. It's
> been converted. (Man! My eyes hurt from screen burn.)
>
> http://www.fullretro.com/tips/GMC_Steering_Control_Arm/
>
> If you want to add any additional comments under any of the pictures,
> Steve, just send them to me.
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> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198431 is a reply to message #198422] Thu, 14 February 2013 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Thu, 14 February 2013 05:51

Very professional job RC.
You guys with those '73s and early '74s need to compare your lower
control arms with those in the photos. If they match, you are in trouble.
The first couple of photos show the cobbled up reinforcements that were
most likely accomplished by dealerships. The reason I suspect this is
because no two are alike and I've seen a lot of them. It is far less labor
intensive to locate a good pair of Eldo/Toro automobile lower control arms
and reinforce them like the later factory ones are, than it is to remove
all the phweet the dealerships welded on and then accomplish the
reenforcement and stiffening.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:

>
>
> >ASFIC all GMC information that helps owners should be
> shared.
>
> Thanks, Steve. And Armard for your hard work getting it into pdf. It's
> been converted. (Man! My eyes hurt from screen burn.)
>
> http://www.fullretro.com/tips/GMC_Steering_Control_Arm/
>
> If you want to add any additional comments under any of the pictures,
> Steve, just send them to me.
> --





Here is a look at the control arms on my 73...they appear different when you are under the coach and trying to photograph -- and you can't get everything in the photo.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1973-gmc-23ft-torsion-bar-assembly-details/p41896-gmc-torsion-bar-and-lca-016.html

Dennis


Dennis S
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Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] way to go Minne [message #198529 is a reply to message #198431] Fri, 15 February 2013 08:16 Go to previous message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Dennis,
Those are original and have the cobbled up tip reenforcements and steering
stops welded to the sides of the tips. Chances are (not shown in the
photos) good that they do not have the stiffeners in each of the 4 bushing
ends either. By early 1974, GM had figured out that those stiffeners were
absolutely necessary.
Click here: http://gmcws.org/Tech/Getting_Your_GMC_Under_Control.pdf
Pg 20 has a pic of the '73's, note the open gap where the bushing ear is
Pg 39 shows the reenforcement needed
Pg 42 shows how to insert and weld the reenforcement
Also missing on the '73s are the tip reenforcements
Pg 43 shows early tip reenforcements you can make yourself from angle iron
and follow through to the end for installation, drilling for 3/8 hardware
and shock stud reenforcement.



On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com>wrote:

>
>
> Steven Ferguson wrote on Thu, 14 February 2013 05:51
> > Very professional job RC.
> > You guys with those '73s and early '74s need to compare your lower
> > control arms with those in the photos. If they match, you are in
> trouble.
> > The first couple of photos show the cobbled up reinforcements that were
> > most likely accomplished by dealerships. The reason I suspect this is
> > because no two are alike and I've seen a lot of them. It is far less
> labor
> > intensive to locate a good pair of Eldo/Toro automobile lower control
> arms
> > and reinforce them like the later factory ones are, than it is to remove
> > all the phweet the dealerships welded on and then accomplish the
> > reenforcement and stiffening.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >ASFIC all GMC information that helps owners should be
> > > shared.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Steve. And Armard for your hard work getting it into pdf. It's
> > > been converted. (Man! My eyes hurt from screen burn.)
> > >
> > > http://www.fullretro.com/tips/GMC_Steering_Control_Arm/
> > >
> > > If you want to add any additional comments under any of the pictures,
> > > Steve, just send them to me.
> > > --
>
>
> Here is a look at the control arms on my 73...they appear different when
> you are under the coach and trying to photograph -- and you can't get
> everything in the photo.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1973-gmc-23ft-torsion-bar-assembly-details/p41896-gmc-torsion-bar-and-lca-016.html
>
> Dennis
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
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