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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like [message #197885 is a reply to message #197873] |
Fri, 08 February 2013 20:19   |
Ronald Pottol
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Well, size, pictures of all sides, and pictures of the interior. Probably
show things that change in both modes.
There was a coach in Fresno with no length, no photos of the right side, a
4000 onan, but I realized it had a couch/bunk, and it was a 73, yeah, it
was a 26.
On Feb 8, 2013 5:21 PM, "RC Jordan" <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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> Yeah, yeah, I know --tires. And pix. But what else makes a coach ad catch
> your eye vs. all the others out there? What should sellers include to make
> better ads?
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| Re: If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like to see? [message #197930 is a reply to message #197903] |
Sat, 09 February 2013 07:52 |
stick miller
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I don't care if a coach is "staged" but it just seems crazy not to make up the bed and wash the dishes. Junk sitting around an otherwise desirable coach is a turn off and it may indicate a lack of care to mechanical details.
If I was selling a coach, I would make it as realistically nice looking as it possibly could be.
Complete information on accessories, rebuild-replacements, improvements, DOT dates on tires - how many times have you heard "new tires" only to find out they've been sitting for ten years?
If I was selling, I'd try and put on my "advertising executive" hat (I'm not one) and give an factual description of the coach.
I also like to see an honest appraisal of what needs to be done.
Oh, yes...if the price is not in the ad, I do not call.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like to see? [message #197938 is a reply to message #197930] |
Sat, 09 February 2013 09:19 |
rcjordan
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>junk
Absolutely. For me, the only thing worse is a dashboard with wires hanging out.
I can work with limited pix if I'm buying a core, but if you're going to sell it to a GMC novice, it needs 4 shots of the exterior -all sides. A pix of the cockpit. A couple of shots down the corridor, one from each end. And pick up the junk.
>1000 miles
You think a new-to-coaches looker will venture that, Kerry?
>too much
I'm torn on this. If I'm positioning the ad for someone on GMCnet, yes. But how about that less-than-62 guy that's just started looking? I think if you unload the boat you may scare him off with "Crap, look at everything that breaks down on those things."
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like [message #197941 is a reply to message #197938] |
Sat, 09 February 2013 10:35 |
Mike Teets
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I have sold many things on craigslist although not a GMC. Most often my
items have sold within 5 days. The following seems to work from a seller
point of view. A bit of unstructured rambling here... don't make an advert
like this :-)
A craigslist ad is to get their attention not make the sale. You want to
establish a conversation with prospective buyers. 4 current pictures. No
more, no less. Pictures should be done in good lighting and current with
a quality camera or at least smartphone. If it is winter, don't post
pictures from a nice sunny summer day and visa-versa. Pictures should look
like you are serious about selling. Move the piles of junk and try to have
simple, natural backgrounds. You don't want a pile of old transmissions
next to the coach, or 2 parts coaches next to it. Post in your local area
only. If people are willing to travel, they will search for places they
are willing to go to. Describe your item in short, non-flowery terms.
Avoid long lists of replacements and upgrades... those will come in email
exchanges after first contact. Lots of upgrades turn off more buyers than
it impresses. Stick to facts, not opinions. Don't post "the best x ever
built" or similar statements. Do say things like 1 of 12,000 built, 1 of
600 of this model. Appear as an authority rather than "this is my brothers
coach and I don't know much about these things". But, don't act like a
know-it-all. You want to be an informed owner, not a used car dealer.
Pump up the tires and airbags. At least wash the dust off the outside and
clean the windows. Remove all personal effects unless you are really
staging for pictures. Don't have a for-sale sign in the window while you
take the pictures. Don't put blankets or seat covers over bad
upholstery... you are not fooling anyone and leads to mistrust. Do not
post funky word versions of your phone number... just use the craigslist
private email. Do not threaten spammers because they aren't reading
anyway... most spammers are software programs. You can sound rude before
you even make contact. Post your location using the craigslist feature.
Being obtuse about where you are makes it look like you are a scammer. No
one is going to troll craigslist for antique motorhome owners to target for
crime :-)
Take that advice for what you paid for it.
Mike, 77 PB, Dublin, OH
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:19 AM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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> >junk
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> Absolutely. For me, the only thing worse is a dashboard with wires hanging
> out.
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> I can work with limited pix if I'm buying a core, but if you're going to
> sell it to a GMC novice, it needs 4 shots of the exterior -all sides. A pix
> of the cockpit. A couple of shots down the corridor, one from each end.
> And pick up the junk.
>
> >1000 miles
> You think a new-to-coaches looker will venture that, Kerry?
>
> >too much
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> I'm torn on this. If I'm positioning the ad for someone on GMCnet, yes.
> But how about that less-than-62 guy that's just started looking? I think if
> you unload the boat you may scare him off with "Crap, look at everything
> that breaks down on those things."
> --
> 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
> Our GMC Motorhomes
> The twins are currently at GMCcoop
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| Re: If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like to see? [message #197943 is a reply to message #197873] |
Sat, 09 February 2013 11:36 |
habbyguy
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What I've done (with good success) when selling a vehicle is to post the craigslist ad, and put a link to a web page I put together with a LOT of hi-def photos and description information. That way, anyone who is interested in the craigslist ad can get an immediate "fix" without calling or emailing me.
I take photos of everything, including underneath (in the case of a GMC, that would include some good photos of the frame rails and suspension components, as well as under-cabinet photos).
Taking the photos with the right light is really important, too. And I like the ads that have a photo or two of the coach being used (with a scenic background with the awning out and a couple chairs, maybe).
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like [message #198024 is a reply to message #197941] |
Sun, 10 February 2013 09:37 |
Ronald Pottol
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I'd put my phone number, in my experience, there are a lot of people who
will call but not email. And the Craig's List anon email.
Ron
On Feb 9, 2013 8:35 AM, "Mike Teets" <teamteets@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have sold many things on craigslist although not a GMC. Most often my
> items have sold within 5 days. The following seems to work from a seller
> point of view. A bit of unstructured rambling here... don't make an advert
> like this :-)
>
> A craigslist ad is to get their attention not make the sale. You want to
> establish a conversation with prospective buyers. 4 current pictures. No
> more, no less. Pictures should be done in good lighting and current with
> a quality camera or at least smartphone. If it is winter, don't post
> pictures from a nice sunny summer day and visa-versa. Pictures should look
> like you are serious about selling. Move the piles of junk and try to have
> simple, natural backgrounds. You don't want a pile of old transmissions
> next to the coach, or 2 parts coaches next to it. Post in your local area
> only. If people are willing to travel, they will search for places they
> are willing to go to. Describe your item in short, non-flowery terms.
> Avoid long lists of replacements and upgrades... those will come in email
> exchanges after first contact. Lots of upgrades turn off more buyers than
> it impresses. Stick to facts, not opinions. Don't post "the best x ever
> built" or similar statements. Do say things like 1 of 12,000 built, 1 of
> 600 of this model. Appear as an authority rather than "this is my brothers
> coach and I don't know much about these things". But, don't act like a
> know-it-all. You want to be an informed owner, not a used car dealer.
> Pump up the tires and airbags. At least wash the dust off the outside and
> clean the windows. Remove all personal effects unless you are really
> staging for pictures. Don't have a for-sale sign in the window while you
> take the pictures. Don't put blankets or seat covers over bad
> upholstery... you are not fooling anyone and leads to mistrust. Do not
> post funky word versions of your phone number... just use the craigslist
> private email. Do not threaten spammers because they aren't reading
> anyway... most spammers are software programs. You can sound rude before
> you even make contact. Post your location using the craigslist feature.
> Being obtuse about where you are makes it look like you are a scammer. No
> one is going to troll craigslist for antique motorhome owners to target for
> crime :-)
>
> Take that advice for what you paid for it.
>
> Mike, 77 PB, Dublin, OH
>
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> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:19 AM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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> >
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> > >junk
> >
> > Absolutely. For me, the only thing worse is a dashboard with wires
> hanging
> > out.
> >
> > I can work with limited pix if I'm buying a core, but if you're going to
> > sell it to a GMC novice, it needs 4 shots of the exterior -all sides. A
> pix
> > of the cockpit. A couple of shots down the corridor, one from each end.
> > And pick up the junk.
> >
> > >1000 miles
> > You think a new-to-coaches looker will venture that, Kerry?
> >
> > >too much
> >
> > I'm torn on this. If I'm positioning the ad for someone on GMCnet, yes.
> > But how about that less-than-62 guy that's just started looking? I think
> if
> > you unload the boat you may scare him off with "Crap, look at everything
> > that breaks down on those things."
> > --
> > 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
> > 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
> > Our GMC Motorhomes
> > The twins are currently at GMCcoop
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >
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| Re: If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like to see? [message #198070 is a reply to message #197873] |
Sun, 10 February 2013 22:32 |
59ona64
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I am the guy you're asking about--under 62, young family, total GMC wannabe.
I have seen ads on motorhomes with links to YouTube videos--those are VERY helpful. I can hear it start and run, see that it moves forwards and backwards (something that should not be assumed, from experience), clearly the battery/batteries have something going for them.
A 2-5 minute video is awesome. I can see the lights working, blinkers, tires, brake lights, generator, AC unit on the roof and dash, stove lights, fridge lights, toilet flushes, shower works, etc.
I've even seen a video of receipts from the past year--they can flip through quickly because I can pause the video to read the receipts.
Really, this is very helpful to me. Habbyguy and I road tripped out to see a coach with new tires, perfect generator, etc. Got there to tires ready to be replaced, gen didn't work, batteries were dead, etc.
I would be stoked to buy a coach that's a smokin' hot deal right there on the spot IF I've seen it all work on the video. Roll in or fly in with a wad of cash and the Black List. Drive home. Rad.
Yes, DOT codes on the tires are VERY important to me. And, "will deliver for gas and a plane ticket home" means it really is road worthy. That's a good line.
Dave >Wannabe< Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like to see? [message #198248 is a reply to message #198246] |
Tue, 12 February 2013 17:40 |
rcjordan
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>I can set it for X miles from my location but it's not dependable.
I agree, it's not. And if my hunch proves correct about Craigslist now doing rolling blackouts to purposely break the numerous CL-aggregator sites from sucking eggs & bandwidth, then granular CL searches are going to suffer everywhere, even Google. Everywhere except CL, that is. The devious part of rolling blackouts is that the mile-high view still looks OK ...until you start drilling down.
Anyway, my site isn't actually performing any active searches when you click anything. All of those pages are static --the information is hardcoded on each page and stays that way until I overwrite it by republishing. The searching and the resulting database are not on the internet, they're done by my desktop PC.
All the above is an eye-glazingly long-winded way of saying that while I could go on to slice & dice the data collected from Craigslist into lon/lat/zip radial search, which is what you're asking for, it's an exponential increase in work vs "by state" so I'm going to have to beg off for now.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like [message #198258 is a reply to message #198248] |
Tue, 12 February 2013 18:30 |
Ronald Pottol
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Pull RSS from CL? Then again, I've missed some that are in your listings I
should have seen.
Ron
On Feb 12, 2013 3:41 PM, "RC Jordan" <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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> >I can set it for X miles from my location but it's not dependable.
>
> I agree, it's not. And if my hunch proves correct about Craigslist now
> doing rolling blackouts to purposely break the numerous CL-aggregator sites
> from sucking eggs & bandwidth, then granular CL searches are going to
> suffer everywhere, even Google. Everywhere except CL, that is. The devious
> part of rolling blackouts is that the mile-high view still looks OK
> ...until you start drilling down.
>
> Anyway, my site isn't actually performing any active searches when you
> click anything. All of those pages are static --the information is
> hardcoded on each page and stays that way until I overwrite it by
> republishing. The searching and the resulting database are not on the
> internet, they're done by my desktop PC.
>
> All the above is an eye-glazingly long-winded way of saying that while I
> could go on to slice & dice the data collected from Craigslist into
> lon/lat/zip radial search, which is what you're asking for, it's an
> exponential increase in work vs "by state" so I'm going to have to beg off
> for now.
> --
> 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
> How's the GMC market? Check out GMC Motorhomes For Sale
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like [message #198268 is a reply to message #198266] |
Tue, 12 February 2013 19:35 |
Ronald Pottol
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Employment adds in some markets are $75, or so it used to be. Craig Newmark
isn't in it for the money.
Ron
On Feb 12, 2013 5:29 PM, "Kerry Pinkerton" <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com> wrote:
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> Does anyone know what the business plan for CraigsList is anyway. How do
> they pay for their servers, bandwidth, and programming?
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're searching Craigslist for a ready-to-drive coach, what details would you like [message #198269 is a reply to message #198266] |
Tue, 12 February 2013 19:44 |
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He charges for apartment and job listings in a few cities and that pays the bills,
This Internet thing is crazy.
Ebay and others destroyed newspapers and made billions.
Craig Newmark destroyed ebay (or at least made them work harder for less money) and he did it for fun.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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