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| [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196883] |
Wed, 30 January 2013 19:59  |
Thomas Pryor
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The original subject: Aggressive Braking "changed" to Math Question.
HI FOLKS,
As I said in an earlier post, I helped Jim K Develop the Manufacturing
process of the REAR BRAKE DRUM CONTROL ARM SYSTEM which
he now owns as well as the Patent which
has been applied for.
The "advertising" video uses "selected scenes" from many test stops at
45 MPH with and without the enhancement. Jim probably picked the
extremes to tell the story. At Amana, Iowa when we first unveiled the
System we showed video of 45 & 35 MPH stops as well as G-force plots.
Every one was interested in "wheel rotation", tire circumference, and
all the visual aspects of the testing.
Based on that experience Jim K and I elected to stay with the CRUDE
measurement of revolutions after wheel lock up as the output data. You
might say I was surprised at some of the comments over the past week.
Every audience is different so I pulled out the Amana presentation
that included G-force plots at 45 MPH and 35 MPH that were gathered
during early testing. These plots give us some very accurate data.
When the stop begins the G-force show us in seconds exactly when the
forces "go negative" and when the forces returns to "zero". Knowing
the time form these two points and the FPS that we traveled, the
distance to stop can be calculated. Negative G-force Intensity was
also captured.
WATCH THE REVISED VIDEO and I hope this helps all who are interested.
http://youtu.be/1peHuX6NpH0
When Jim K gets his " _ _ __" together he will have it on his site.
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196919 is a reply to message #196883] |
Wed, 30 January 2013 23:53  |
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hnielsen2
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Tom
Can you please give credit to Chuck Alger
He is the one who came up with the idea in the first place.
I first saw HIS that is Chuck's braking system at Steve and Nancy get together in Arizona at least four years ago.
Thank You
All is well with my Lord
Howard
On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Thomas Pryor <tepryor@gmail.com> wrote:
> The original subject: Aggressive Braking "changed" to Math Question.
>
> HI FOLKS,
>
> As I said in an earlier post, I helped Jim K Develop the Manufacturing
> process of the REAR BRAKE DRUM CONTROL ARM SYSTEM which
> he now owns as well as the Patent which
> has been applied for.
>
> The "advertising" video uses "selected scenes" from many test stops at
> 45 MPH with and without the enhancement. Jim probably picked the
> extremes to tell the story. At Amana, Iowa when we first unveiled the
> System we showed video of 45 & 35 MPH stops as well as G-force plots.
> Every one was interested in "wheel rotation", tire circumference, and
> all the visual aspects of the testing.
>
> Based on that experience Jim K and I elected to stay with the CRUDE
> measurement of revolutions after wheel lock up as the output data. You
> might say I was surprised at some of the comments over the past week.
>
> Every audience is different so I pulled out the Amana presentation
> that included G-force plots at 45 MPH and 35 MPH that were gathered
> during early testing. These plots give us some very accurate data.
>
> When the stop begins the G-force show us in seconds exactly when the
> forces "go negative" and when the forces returns to "zero". Knowing
> the time form these two points and the FPS that we traveled, the
> distance to stop can be calculated. Negative G-force Intensity was
> also captured.
>
> WATCH THE REVISED VIDEO and I hope this helps all who are interested.
>
> http://youtu.be/1peHuX6NpH0
>
> When Jim K gets his " _ _ __" together he will have it on his site.
> --
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Tom Pryor
> 4188 Limerick Dr
> Lake Wales, Fl 33859
> Cell 248 470 9186
>
> Living on a waterfront is not a matter of life or death. Its more
> important than that.
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196938 is a reply to message #196924] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 06:53 |
Ken Henderson
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For those who don't know, Chuck Aulgur and Norm "The Ancient Brit" Jestico
simultaneously and independently developed 4-link ("reaction arm") rear
suspensions for the GMC.
Norm published this album while working on his prototype:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5538-reaction-brake-norm.html
It's obvious that Norm's design details are VERY different from Chuck's.
In some ways perhaps better, in others likely to have changed if it had
ever gone into production.
Unfortunately, Norm passed away very shortly after completing the
installation and we never got any reports of its performance. His coach
was sold (by Denny Allen) and I've never heard who bought it -- has anyone?
Without in any way disparaging Chuck's, JimK's, nor Rick Flannigan's
accomplishments in bringing this tremendous improvement to us, the efforts
of others should be kept in mind also. The basic concept has been around
for many decades, and is used extensively, especially in racing. Just
check the Summit & Jegs catalogs for pages of kits for trucks & race cars.
(Mr. erf, thanks for posting Norm's work -- I seem to have lost my copy!)
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> Howard,
>
> Are you aware that Norm Jestico developed a system too?
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196950 is a reply to message #196919] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 09:15 |
Mr ERFisher
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first prototype 2007
norm
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5538-reaction-brake-norm.html
gene
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Howard <hnielsen2@cox.net> wrote:
> Tom
> Can you please give credit to Chuck Alger
> He is the one who came up with the idea in the first place.
> I first saw HIS that is Chuck's braking system at Steve and Nancy get
> together in Arizona at least four years ago.
> Thank You
>
> All is well with my Lord
> Howard
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Thomas Pryor <tepryor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The original subject: Aggressive Braking "changed" to Math Question.
> >
> > HI FOLKS,
> >
> > As I said in an earlier post, I helped Jim K Develop the Manufacturing
> > process of the REAR BRAKE DRUM CONTROL ARM SYSTEM which
> > he now owns as well as the Patent which
> > has been applied for.
> >
> > The "advertising" video uses "selected scenes" from many test stops at
> > 45 MPH with and without the enhancement. Jim probably picked the
> > extremes to tell the story. At Amana, Iowa when we first unveiled the
> > System we showed video of 45 & 35 MPH stops as well as G-force plots.
> > Every one was interested in "wheel rotation", tire circumference, and
> > all the visual aspects of the testing.
> >
> > Based on that experience Jim K and I elected to stay with the CRUDE
> > measurement of revolutions after wheel lock up as the output data. You
> > might say I was surprised at some of the comments over the past week.
> >
> > Every audience is different so I pulled out the Amana presentation
> > that included G-force plots at 45 MPH and 35 MPH that were gathered
> > during early testing. These plots give us some very accurate data.
> >
> > When the stop begins the G-force show us in seconds exactly when the
> > forces "go negative" and when the forces returns to "zero". Knowing
> > the time form these two points and the FPS that we traveled, the
> > distance to stop can be calculated. Negative G-force Intensity was
> > also captured.
> >
> > WATCH THE REVISED VIDEO and I hope this helps all who are interested.
> >
> > http://youtu.be/1peHuX6NpH0
> >
> > When Jim K gets his " _ _ __" together he will have it on his site.
> > --
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tom Pryor
> > 4188 Limerick Dr
> > Lake Wales, Fl 33859
> > Cell 248 470 9186
> >
> > Living on a waterfront is not a matter of life or death. Its more
> > important than that.
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196954 is a reply to message #196938] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 10:07 |
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> For those who don't know, Chuck Aulgur and Norm "The Ancient Brit" Jestico
> simultaneously and independently developed 4-link ("reaction arm") rear
> suspensions for the GMC.
>
> Norm published this album while working on his prototype:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5538-reaction-brake-norm.html
>
> It's obvious that Norm's design details are VERY different from Chuck's.
> In some ways perhaps better, in others likely to have changed if it had
> ever gone into production.
>
> Unfortunately, Norm passed away very shortly after completing the
> installation and we never got any reports of its performance. His coach
> was sold (by Denny Allen) and I've never heard who bought it -- has anyone?
>
> Without in any way disparaging Chuck's, JimK's, nor Rick Flannigan's
> accomplishments in bringing this tremendous improvement to us, the efforts
> of others should be kept in mind also. The basic concept has been around
> for many decades, and is used extensively, especially in racing. Just
> check the Summit & Jegs catalogs for pages of kits for trucks & race cars.
>
> (Mr. erf, thanks for posting Norm's work -- I seem to have lost my copy!)
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> > Howard,
> >
> > Are you aware that Norm Jestico developed a system too?
> >
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196956 is a reply to message #196954] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 10:18 |
jimk
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Howard,
Chuck Auger , Rick Flannagan and I spent many hours on the Disc brake
Reaction arm.
Infact we named it the Aulgur Reaction Arm.
Chuck and Rick were compensated for the work and when Chuck came up to our
facility to monitor the installation and the tests, we covered all the cost.
Please do not imply that I copied it. There are some that has come here
under false pretense and copied. So all is not well with me.
Ken Henderson helped Chuck coordinate with an Canadian person that also was
working on one. He passed away before he did much with Chuck.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>> For those who don't know, Chuck Aulgur and Norm "The Ancient Brit" Jestico
>> simultaneously and independently developed 4-link ("reaction arm") rear
>> suspensions for the GMC.
>>
>> Norm published this album while working on his prototype:
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5538-reaction-brake-norm.html
>>
>> It's obvious that Norm's design details are VERY different from Chuck's.
>> In some ways perhaps better, in others likely to have changed if it had
>> ever gone into production.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Norm passed away very shortly after completing the
>> installation and we never got any reports of its performance. His coach
>> was sold (by Denny Allen) and I've never heard who bought it -- has
>> anyone?
>>
>> Without in any way disparaging Chuck's, JimK's, nor Rick Flannigan's
>> accomplishments in bringing this tremendous improvement to us, the efforts
>> of others should be kept in mind also. The basic concept has been around
>> for many decades, and is used extensively, especially in racing. Just
>> check the Summit & Jegs catalogs for pages of kits for trucks & race cars.
>>
>> (Mr. erf, thanks for posting Norm's work -- I seem to have lost my copy!)
>>
>> Ken H.
>> Americus, GA
>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>>
>> > Howard,
>> >
>> > Are you aware that Norm Jestico developed a system too?
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196958 is a reply to message #196956] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 10:32 |
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My first trip to Jim K's shop was back in 2007. He had this funny looking thing he kept trying to tell me about. I was only interested in the Q-bag and the new final drive, at the time.
So, we were back at Jim's shop in 2008. This time for the exhaust after we nearly burned our coach down. He kept trying to tell me about this funny arm looking thing. All I wanted was the 3 inch exhaust and my steering fixed. Well, sometime in 2010 it soaked in what that funny looking arm could do for our brakes, which we did not now have. January 2011 off we go, from Quartzsite, to Jim's again. Now, "I want this funny looking thing you have been telling me about for 4 years, along with the disc brakes and the one ton frontend. I get it now".
Just how it is. Takes me a long time to digest some stuff. I will not brag on it because I have been bragging on the reaction arm since February 11. Won't mention that we blew our second engine in Quartzsite on our way back. But, I had no trouble stopping the GMC when I rolled it up onto the flatbed tow truck. 
Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196960 is a reply to message #196956] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 10:34 |
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Jim
My point was this.
I did not see Chuck given credit in the first post.
Chuck is one of the good guys and a friend.
Thanks
All is well with my Lord
Howard
On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howard,
> Chuck Auger , Rick Flannagan and I spent many hours on the Disc brake
> Reaction arm.
> Infact we named it the Aulgur Reaction Arm.
> Chuck and Rick were compensated for the work and when Chuck came up to our
> facility to monitor the installation and the tests, we covered all the cost.
> Please do not imply that I copied it. There are some that has come here
> under false pretense and copied. So all is not well with me.
> Ken Henderson helped Chuck coordinate with an Canadian person that also was
> working on one. He passed away before he did much with Chuck.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>
>>> For those who don't know, Chuck Aulgur and Norm "The Ancient Brit" Jestico
>>> simultaneously and independently developed 4-link ("reaction arm") rear
>>> suspensions for the GMC.
>>>
>>> Norm published this album while working on his prototype:
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5538-reaction-brake-norm.html
>>>
>>> It's obvious that Norm's design details are VERY different from Chuck's.
>>> In some ways perhaps better, in others likely to have changed if it had
>>> ever gone into production.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Norm passed away very shortly after completing the
>>> installation and we never got any reports of its performance. His coach
>>> was sold (by Denny Allen) and I've never heard who bought it -- has
>>> anyone?
>>>
>>> Without in any way disparaging Chuck's, JimK's, nor Rick Flannigan's
>>> accomplishments in bringing this tremendous improvement to us, the efforts
>>> of others should be kept in mind also. The basic concept has been around
>>> for many decades, and is used extensively, especially in racing. Just
>>> check the Summit & Jegs catalogs for pages of kits for trucks & race cars.
>>>
>>> (Mr. erf, thanks for posting Norm's work -- I seem to have lost my copy!)
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>> Americus, GA
>>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
>>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howard,
>>>>
>>>> Are you aware that Norm Jestico developed a system too?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
>
>
>
> --
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> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196963 is a reply to message #196960] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 10:54 |
James Hupy
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Howard, If you look back to my reference to the GMCWS rally at Auburn, Ca.
when Rick D. had his Chuck Algur designed reaction arm equipped coach there
as a demonstrator, I gave mention to Chuck. His working career was one of a
Rocket Scientist. He is a very bright man. The reaction arm system idea, he
told me, came from a motorcycle racer named Dick "Bugsy" Mann. Chuck told
me then that Mann probably borrowed the idea from someone else. He also had
several other of his inventions there, including a corkscrew operated
parking brake. Chuck is a shy guy and prefers to not be the center of
attention. I have great respect for him.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Jan 31, 2013 8:34 AM, "Howard" <hnielsen2@cox.net> wrote:
> Jim
> My point was this.
> I did not see Chuck given credit in the first post.
> Chuck is one of the good guys and a friend.
> Thanks
>
> All is well with my Lord
> Howard
> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Howard,
> > Chuck Auger , Rick Flannagan and I spent many hours on the Disc brake
> > Reaction arm.
> > Infact we named it the Aulgur Reaction Arm.
> > Chuck and Rick were compensated for the work and when Chuck came up to
> our
> > facility to monitor the installation and the tests, we covered all the
> cost.
> > Please do not imply that I copied it. There are some that has come here
> > under false pretense and copied. So all is not well with me.
> > Ken Henderson helped Chuck coordinate with an Canadian person that also
> was
> > working on one. He passed away before he did much with Chuck.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> For those who don't know, Chuck Aulgur and Norm "The Ancient Brit"
> Jestico
> >>> simultaneously and independently developed 4-link ("reaction arm") rear
> >>> suspensions for the GMC.
> >>>
> >>> Norm published this album while working on his prototype:
> >>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5538-reaction-brake-norm.html
> >>>
> >>> It's obvious that Norm's design details are VERY different from
> Chuck's.
> >>> In some ways perhaps better, in others likely to have changed if it had
> >>> ever gone into production.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, Norm passed away very shortly after completing the
> >>> installation and we never got any reports of its performance. His
> coach
> >>> was sold (by Denny Allen) and I've never heard who bought it -- has
> >>> anyone?
> >>>
> >>> Without in any way disparaging Chuck's, JimK's, nor Rick Flannigan's
> >>> accomplishments in bringing this tremendous improvement to us, the
> efforts
> >>> of others should be kept in mind also. The basic concept has been
> around
> >>> for many decades, and is used extensively, especially in racing. Just
> >>> check the Summit & Jegs catalogs for pages of kits for trucks & race
> cars.
> >>>
> >>> (Mr. erf, thanks for posting Norm's work -- I seem to have lost my
> copy!)
> >>>
> >>> Ken H.
> >>> Americus, GA
> >>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> >>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Howard,
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you aware that Norm Jestico developed a system too?
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> GMCnet mailing list
> >>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim Kanomata
> >> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> >> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> >> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> >> 1-800-752-7502
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata
> > Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> > jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] MATH QUESTION / Aggressive braking (revised video) [message #196970 is a reply to message #196963] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 13:08 |
jimk
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Howard,
I stand corrected,so often I open my mouth befor I respond.
Chuck has assisted us in several designs and very great to work with.
Right after the incident with his arm, he call us to explain what actually
happened.
The GMC community has gained from these people as they share their ideas
and experiences.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:54 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howard, If you look back to my reference to the GMCWS rally at Auburn, Ca.
> when Rick D. had his Chuck Algur designed reaction arm equipped coach there
> as a demonstrator, I gave mention to Chuck. His working career was one of a
> Rocket Scientist. He is a very bright man. The reaction arm system idea, he
> told me, came from a motorcycle racer named Dick "Bugsy" Mann. Chuck told
> me then that Mann probably borrowed the idea from someone else. He also had
> several other of his inventions there, including a corkscrew operated
> parking brake. Chuck is a shy guy and prefers to not be the center of
> attention. I have great respect for him.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 Gmc Royale 403
> On Jan 31, 2013 8:34 AM, "Howard" <hnielsen2@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Jim
> > My point was this.
> > I did not see Chuck given credit in the first post.
> > Chuck is one of the good guys and a friend.
> > Thanks
> >
> > All is well with my Lord
> > Howard
> > On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Howard,
> > > Chuck Auger , Rick Flannagan and I spent many hours on the Disc brake
> > > Reaction arm.
> > > Infact we named it the Aulgur Reaction Arm.
> > > Chuck and Rick were compensated for the work and when Chuck came up to
> > our
> > > facility to monitor the installation and the tests, we covered all the
> > cost.
> > > Please do not imply that I copied it. There are some that has come here
> > > under false pretense and copied. So all is not well with me.
> > > Ken Henderson helped Chuck coordinate with an Canadian person that also
> > was
> > > working on one. He passed away before he did much with Chuck.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Ken Henderson <
> hend4800@bellsouth.net
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> For those who don't know, Chuck Aulgur and Norm "The Ancient Brit"
> > Jestico
> > >>> simultaneously and independently developed 4-link ("reaction arm")
> rear
> > >>> suspensions for the GMC.
> > >>>
> > >>> Norm published this album while working on his prototype:
> > >>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5538-reaction-brake-norm.html
> > >>>
> > >>> It's obvious that Norm's design details are VERY different from
> > Chuck's.
> > >>> In some ways perhaps better, in others likely to have changed if it
> had
> > >>> ever gone into production.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unfortunately, Norm passed away very shortly after completing the
> > >>> installation and we never got any reports of its performance. His
> > coach
> > >>> was sold (by Denny Allen) and I've never heard who bought it -- has
> > >>> anyone?
> > >>>
> > >>> Without in any way disparaging Chuck's, JimK's, nor Rick Flannigan's
> > >>> accomplishments in bringing this tremendous improvement to us, the
> > efforts
> > >>> of others should be kept in mind also. The basic concept has been
> > around
> > >>> for many decades, and is used extensively, especially in racing.
> Just
> > >>> check the Summit & Jegs catalogs for pages of kits for trucks & race
> > cars.
> > >>>
> > >>> (Mr. erf, thanks for posting Norm's work -- I seem to have lost my
> > copy!)
> > >>>
> > >>> Ken H.
> > >>> Americus, GA
> > >>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> > >>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Howard,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Are you aware that Norm Jestico developed a system too?
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> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jim Kanomata
> > >> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> > >> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> > >> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> > >> 1-800-752-7502
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Jim Kanomata
> > > Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
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