| Headliner replacement moldings [message #196810] |
Tue, 29 January 2013 22:10  |
dpottebaum
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Hello, I'm new to this group, so I'll apologize in advance if this topic has been covered. I did search for a while but did not find it covered anywhere.
I'm redoing the headliner in my 1978 GMC Royale. In the process of removing the old headliner, I managed to ruin a few of the old T molding splices between the sheets of plywood headliner. I like the way those splices work, so I'd like to replace all of them with similar moldings. I'm having a very difficult time finding anything like them on the market. Does anyone know of a place to buy these splice T moldings and the track they seat into. I would imagine they are sold together as a kit somewhere? Please let me know. Thank you.
Dave Pottebaum
Bondurant, Iowa
1978 Royale
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #196889 is a reply to message #196810] |
Wed, 30 January 2013 20:48  |
mojoe
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I hope someone jumps in and has an answer for this... cause I need em too!
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197020 is a reply to message #196810] |
Thu, 31 January 2013 22:12 |
dpottebaum
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Sorry I cannot post pictures (after several attempts)since I cannot compress them beyond 3.7KB and I do not have a way to link them, but I will be glad to email them to anyone who would like to see them. The thickness of the headliner plywood is approx 1/8". Could probably get away with 3/16". Most of what I've been able to find is a flooring molding which are typically 3/4", but I think they can be as thin as 3/8" which is still too much for me. As a side note, I'm actually replacing the plywood headliner with a glassboard headliner with no backer. Won't have to worry about mold or delamination anymore. Hopefully I've got all of the leaks fixed, but you never know....
Thanks for all of your assistance!
Dave Pottebaum
Bondurant, Iowa
1978 Royale
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197106 is a reply to message #196810] |
Fri, 01 February 2013 19:59 |
dpottebaum
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Dan & Teri, thank you for the lead. I have sent a message to Jim. I did look at Menards, but have not tried Lowes or Home Depot. I think I did find the end of the Internet while looking online though! I'll post the results of my discussion with Jim for anyone else in the same boat as me.
Dave Pottebaum
Bondurant, Iowa
1978 Royale
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197109 is a reply to message #196810] |
Sat, 02 February 2013 08:05 |
dpottebaum
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Thanks Glenn. I checked these out this AM. I did not see a 2 part molding that allows the track to be installed first, then headliner, and then the push in T molding (must have a track for the T molding to press into). H molding won't work because I need to be able to fasten the butt seam on both sheets of headliner and there is no way to fasten both sheets with an H molding without revealing the rivet on one of the sheets. I think there will be too much rattle if both seams are not fastened. Thanks for the attempt, I really appreciate it!
Dave Pottebaum
Bondurant, Iowa
1978 Royale
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197112 is a reply to message #197109] |
Sat, 02 February 2013 08:27 |
mojoe
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Morning.. I am redoing my coach and the headliner is just part of it. PO had screwed aluminum strips over the joints. really looked bad. Being a Building Contractor, I always look at things that are made for one thing to be used for something else.
I am looking at a product sold for screening screen porches calld ScreenTight. It is a 2 part system. Screw base down over joint in headliner, snap cover on.. covers up screws. Product comes in a few colors other then white.. U can buy this product I know at Home Depot and most likley Lowes. Cost is less then $4.00 per 8' for base and same for cap. So should run less then $8.00 per joint.
Again I have not used it yet.. but most likley what i will try.
BTW it comes in 11/2" or 31/2" wide.
If you decide to use it please let me know how it works for you.
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197119 is a reply to message #196810] |
Sat, 02 February 2013 09:47 |
rcjordan
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Yeah, Lowes has it or something similar. I think it's an excellent alternative-use idea. My only reservation is the width, though the 1.5-inch might work or perhaps it could be covered with matching headliner material if you're using fabric.
I've been looking at this stuff for years thinking that it would make a nice T-molding. Another similar item would be Wiremold raceway. Wiremold is narrower but thicker and is perhaps less adaptable as a true T since it lacks flanges along the edges. Normal stock lengths are 5' which wouldn't be optimal for coach headliner trim.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197131 is a reply to message #197121] |
Sat, 02 February 2013 12:43 |
mojoe
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Update on the ScreenTight snap system.
Had to go to Lowes anyway so while there picked up a set (base and cap) of ScreenTight system
I think it will work perfect for the headliner. There are a few colors, but the base only comes in black. When snaped together u can see the edge of the black base. If that bothers you could paint the base and or the cap whatever color you like.
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197132 is a reply to message #196810] |
Sat, 02 February 2013 13:11 |
dpottebaum
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Guys, great ideas! I really like the 1.5" screentight. I'm headed to Lowes to pick some up and give it a try. I might not get any put up for a week or two because I still have some wires to run while I've got things apart. When I get some put in I'll report back to you all. Thanks again!
Dave
Dave Pottebaum
Bondurant, Iowa
1978 Royale
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197135 is a reply to message #197131] |
Sat, 02 February 2013 13:53 |
chasingsummer
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Joe
I have used that screen tight stuff in the past for its intended purpose. really nice stuff, easy to work with, easy to remove and or repair.
brian
asheboro, nc
75 eleganza, 74 build
119k miles and counting,
DOG HOUSE
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| Re: Headliner replacement moldings [message #197138 is a reply to message #197135] |
Sat, 02 February 2013 14:46 |
mojoe
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Brian.. took the set out to Odie that I just bought and held it up on the rear section of ceiling I have up..i think it will look great, not to mention how easy it should be to remove for repairs and not tear it up!
And the way its designed you could wrap it with material and still work like it should.
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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