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Tue, 15 January 2013 09:50  |
Robin Hood
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Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
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Jackson, MS
2003 Buick Lesabre
1968 Pontiac Catalina
1978 GMC Royale motorhome
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195599 is a reply to message #195597] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 10:03  |
James Hupy
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Robin, even if you had the next Royale that Coachman built on the same day
the black tank probably would not interchange. On OLD PLASTIC THAT HAS
OUTGASSED MOST OF ITSELF, the only sure way to do long lasting repairs is
to remove the toilet, and replace everything under it clear to the cap on
the 3" drain line. Unless you enjoy crawling about under coaches while
performing one of the most unpleasant tasks known to man. Then repeat when
your repair fails. I won't work on OLD tanks or plastic plumbing. High
quality newer plastic components make replacement simpler. Do it once, do
it right, and forget it. Jwiwd.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Jan 15, 2013 7:50 AM, "Robin Hood" <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
> The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
> taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
> right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
> it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
> to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
> and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
>
> --
> Robin Hood
> Jackson, MS
> 2003 Buick Lesabre
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195605 is a reply to message #195597] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 11:09 |
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| Robin Hood wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 07:50 |
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The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it, and with a convenient donor coach located right here... 
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Robin,
Jim is right, Do not make MAJOR repairs on OLD dried out plastic tanks or plumbing. "Do it once, doit right, and forget it." In fact, even minor repairs to old plastic are often not cost effective in the long run.
Besides, a tank from a side bath, will not fit in the rear bath position. The area allowed by the frame is a different shape.
If I where to replace tanks on any coachman product, I would redesign the system to keep it from dragging... plus make it work better. Call JimK/Applied, they know different ways to improve the system while fixing it.... might save you money in the long run.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195609 is a reply to message #195597] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 12:10 |
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Robin,
I agree with the boys from Oregon.
However, I repaired a crack (not a missing chunk)in my black tank ten years ago and the repair is still holding after almost 100,000 miles and ten years of regular usage.
I used the kit available at many RV supply places. Contains a piece of fiberglass cloth and some black liquid (plastic,epoxy, glue?).
For $15.00 it might get you to Dothan and back without embarrassment if you don't have time or resources to change the tank before the rally.
Wear plastic gloves and don't get the black stuff on your hands.
Good luck
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195610 is a reply to message #195609] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 12:24 |
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| gbarrow wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 10:10 |
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For $15.00 it might get you to Dothan and back without embarrassment if you don't have time or resources to change the tank before the rally.
Wear plastic gloves and don't get the black stuff on your hands.
Good luck...
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Robin,
Maybe post some pictures of the problem. Someone might have a "temporary" fix. (IIRC: the damage is quite large.)
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195612 is a reply to message #195605] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 12:50 |
Robin Hood
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Yeah, it does sort of have the ring of truth to it. :)
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Robin Hood wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 07:50
>> ...
>> The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it, and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
>
>
> Robin,
>
> Jim is right, Do not make MAJOR repairs on OLD dried out plastic tanks or plumbing. "Do it once, doit right, and forget it." In fact, even minor repairs to old plastic are often not cost effective in the long run.
>
> Besides, a tank from a side bath, will not fit in the rear bath position. The area allowed by the frame is a different shape.
>
> If I where to replace tanks on any coachman product, I would redesign the system to keep it from dragging... plus make it work better. Call JimK/Applied, they know different ways to improve the system while fixing it.... might save you money in the long run.
>
>
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
> http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195616 is a reply to message #195613] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 14:04 |
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Robin,
In 2000 I bought a 78 Royale from a friend of mine. The black tank had a
small leak in the lower rear driver's side corner of the tank. While
chipping away at some of the epoxy (or whatever they used to seal the
crack) a chunk of the tank about the size of a half dollar fell out. It
spilled about 4 gallons of old tank holdings on my garage floor (not very
pleasant or fun to clean up). I repaired that corner hole with some
fiberglass and a tube of polyurathane (sp). It has held for 13 years. I
also used the polyurathane to seal a leak on the Birchaven I am working on
and to seal a leak on the Royale's gray tank. I found that the
polyurathane must be applied to a dry surface to stop the leaks. JWID.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-_dBua9PHU at the 00:01:16 mark you
> can see the hole in the tank. :)
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> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> > Robin,
> >
> > Maybe post some pictures of the problem. Someone might have a
> "temporary" fix. (IIRC: the damage is quite large.)
> >
>
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> Jackson, MS
> 2003 Buick Lesabre
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195624 is a reply to message #195622] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 16:30 |
James Hupy
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I have seen Royale's with 1, 2, and 3 tanks. What I have done is put about
a 38 gallon black tank under the side bath with the 3" dump on the driver
side rear of that tank. There is room for a straight shot to the rear and
enough room for a mascerator. The grey water tank installs behind the
crossmember and uses a 3" knife outlet valve then reduces to 2". Elbows and
a straight piece of pvc dumps into a 3" T after the black tank dump valve
and before the mascerator. I put the 3" dump cap as well as the mascerator
dump cap on the driver side pointing towards the side. Nothing below the
frame rails as the rear of the Royale frame kicks up at the next to last
crossmember. It all tucks in nicely. Jim K sells the tanks and valves as
well as most of the close fitting pipe parts.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale Side dry bath w/2 tanks and a mascerator.
On Jan 15, 2013 2:04 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Robin,
>
> John Sharpe had a Royale that he sold to Stick and it had a grey tank and
> a black tank. The plumbing under that thing was a
> nightmare and he converted it to a single black tank.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Hood
>
> Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
> The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
> taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
> right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
> it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
> to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
> and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
>
> Robin
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195628 is a reply to message #195624] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 18:40 |
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Well the good news is that my wife and I just had a nice long conversation,
and she really likes the idea of the Royale as a lifeboat. Whether that
lifeboat be to escape hurricanes and weather, or to weather the storms of
job loss and having to get by on just her income. Anyway we have run the
numbers and there is enough money in theory at the end of this month and in
February to take care of fixing up the Royale. As in new black tank new
rims new tires and some other odds and ends. It feels so incredibly weird
to have a wife this supportive. She says that she would love to have a
diamond ring don't get her wrong, but a diamond ring isn't going to do her
any good if the house gets blown away in a hurricane or a flood or if I
lose my job or something bad happens. I have married the most awesome girl.
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013, James Hupy wrote:
> I have seen Royale's with 1, 2, and 3 tanks. What I have done is put about
> a 38 gallon black tank under the side bath with the 3" dump on the driver
> side rear of that tank. There is room for a straight shot to the rear and
> enough room for a mascerator. The grey water tank installs behind the
> crossmember and uses a 3" knife outlet valve then reduces to 2". Elbows and
> a straight piece of pvc dumps into a 3" T after the black tank dump valve
> and before the mascerator. I put the 3" dump cap as well as the mascerator
> dump cap on the driver side pointing towards the side. Nothing below the
> frame rails as the rear of the Royale frame kicks up at the next to last
> crossmember. It all tucks in nicely. Jim K sells the tanks and valves as
> well as most of the close fitting pipe parts.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 Royale Side dry bath w/2 tanks and a mascerator.
> On Jan 15, 2013 2:04 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Robin,
> >
> > John Sharpe had a Royale that he sold to Stick and it had a grey tank and
> > a black tank. The plumbing under that thing was a
> > nightmare and he converted it to a single black tank.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > USAussie - Downunder
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robin Hood
> >
> > Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
> > The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
> > taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
> > right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
> > it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
> > to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
> > and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
> >
> > Robin
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195637 is a reply to message #195597] |
Tue, 15 January 2013 23:07 |
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Hi Robin:
We bought a 1976 Royale rear bath that had a broken black (rear) tank and a huge steel shield under it that dragged evrywhere we went. Jim and Nick at Applied GMC designed and installed a new toilet system with two new  tanks, moved forward 15 inches, and a mascerator between them for emptying. The toilet unit is a ceramic, marine " head", with a mascerator built into the bottom of it, to pump the stuff forw ard into the black tank. They discarded the huge shield and we can go anywhere that that any other GMC can go. Our bathroom is so nice now that we never use anything else.
Not totally inexpensive but the owning a GMC is a lot of fun, not a "Cheap way to go camping"!
Jack & Mary Kincaid, Castro Valley, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Hood" <loxley@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:50:00 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath?
Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
--
Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2003 Buick Lesabre
1968 Pontiac Catalina
1978 GMC Royale motorhome
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195641 is a reply to message #195637] |
Wed, 16 January 2013 00:25 |
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how does the ceramic head work with the mascerator in the bottom? that seems interesting.
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.
micke
On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:07 PM, kincaid76royale@comcast.net wrote:
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> Hi Robin:
>
>
>
> We bought a 1976 Royale rear bath that had a broken black (rear) tank and a huge steel shield under it that dragged evrywhere we went. Jim and Nick at Applied GMC designed and installed a new toilet system with two new tanks, moved forward 15 inches, and a mascerator between them for emptying. The toilet unit is a ceramic, marine " head", with a mascerator built into the bottom of it, to pump the stuff forw ard into the black tank. They discarded the huge shield and we can go anywhere that that any other GMC can go. Our bathroom is so nice now that we never use anything else.
>
>
>
> Not totally inexpensive but the owning a GMC is a lot of fun, not a "Cheap way to go camping"!
>
>
>
> Jack & Mary Kincaid, Castro Valley, CA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Robin Hood" <loxley@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:50:00 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath?
>
> Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
> The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
> taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
> right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
> it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
> to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
> and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
>
> --
> Robin Hood
> Jackson, MS
> 2003 Buick Lesabre
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195647 is a reply to message #195641] |
Wed, 16 January 2013 04:25 |
Robin Hood
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Sid like some details on that as well. I want a nice "throne". :)
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle wrote:
> how does the ceramic head work with the mascerator in the bottom? that
> seems interesting.
>
> 77 palm beach
>
> anaheim ca.
>
> micke
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>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:07 PM, kincaid76royale@comcast.net <javascript:;>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Robin:
> >
> >
> >
> > We bought a 1976 Royale rear bath that had a broken black (rear) tank
> and a huge steel shield under it that dragged evrywhere we went. Jim and
> Nick at Applied GMC designed and installed a new toilet system with two new
> tanks, moved forward 15 inches, and a mascerator between them for
> emptying. The toilet unit is a ceramic, marine " head", with a mascerator
> built into the bottom of it, to pump the stuff forw ard into the black
> tank. They discarded the huge shield and we can go anywhere that that any
> other GMC can go. Our bathroom is so nice now that we never use anything
> else.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not totally inexpensive but the owning a GMC is a lot of fun, not a
> "Cheap way to go camping"!
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack & Mary Kincaid, Castro Valley, CA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: "Robin Hood" <loxley@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org <javascript:;>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:50:00 AM
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath?
> >
> > Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
> > The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
> > taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
> > right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
> > it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
> > to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
> > and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
> >
> > --
> > Robin Hood
> > Jackson, MS
> > 2003 Buick Lesabre
> > 1968 Pontiac Catalina
> > 1978 GMC Royale motorhome
> > 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195660 is a reply to message #195628] |
Wed, 16 January 2013 07:47 |
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You're lucky. Something over 40 years ago, I offered the option of a ring or furniture when we got married, and the furniture won on. She's now got a family heirloom which looks like a locomotive headlight... and doesn'[t wear it anyway.
Rims n tyres? Between JimK and Oakwood Tire, 2.5 GMC Units put 6 nice looking aluminum wheels and new Coopers on my coach. Show ya in Dothan.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com>
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath?
Well the good news is that my wife and I just had a nice long conversation,
and she really likes the idea of the Royale as a lifeboat. Whether that
lifeboat be to escape hurricanes and weather, or to weather the storms of
job loss and having to get by on just her income. Anyway we have run the
numbers and there is enough money in theory at the end of this month and in
February to take care of fixing up the Royale. As in new black tank new
rims new tires and some other odds and ends. It feels so incredibly weird
to have a wife this supportive. She says that she would love to have a
diamond ring don't get her wrong, but a diamond ring isn't going to do her
any good if the house gets blown away in a hurricane or a flood or if I
lose my job or something bad happens. I have married the most awesome girl.
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013, James Hupy wrote:
> I have seen Royale's with 1, 2, and 3 tanks. What I have done is put about
> a 38 gallon black tank under the side bath with the 3" dump on the driver
> side rear of that tank. There is room for a straight shot to the rear and
> enough room for a mascerator. The grey water tank installs behind the
> crossmember and uses a 3" knife outlet valve then reduces to 2". Elbows and
> a straight piece of pvc dumps into a 3" T after the black tank dump valve
> and before the mascerator. I put the 3" dump cap as well as the mascerator
> dump cap on the driver side pointing towards the side. Nothing below the
> frame rails as the rear of the Royale frame kicks up at the next to last
> crossmember. It all tucks in nicely. Jim K sells the tanks and valves as
> well as most of the close fitting pipe parts.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 Royale Side dry bath w/2 tanks and a mascerator.
> On Jan 15, 2013 2:04 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Robin,
> >
> > John Sharpe had a Royale that he sold to Stick and it had a grey tank and
> > a black tank. The plumbing under that thing was a
> > nightmare and he converted it to a single black tank.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > USAussie - Downunder
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robin Hood
> >
> > Trying to get the Royale into shape for the upcoming rally in Dothan.
> > The rear bath has a blank tank mounted below, and there's a huge chunk
> > taken out of the plastic. I have a Palm Beach with a side bath parked
> > right in front of the Royale: does it use the same black tank, or can
> > it at least be "made to work" maybe by turning it sideways? I'd prefer
> > to not spend a few hundred bucks on a new black tank if I can help it,
> > and with a convenient donor coach located right here... :)
> >
> > Robin
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195662 is a reply to message #195660] |
Wed, 16 January 2013 08:13 |
rcjordan
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>escape hurricanes
My town is listed in the top 50 (currently 48th, was 26th a few years ago) ranking of cities and islands affected most by tropical storms and hurricanes.
http://www.hurricanecity.com/rank.htm
Dave Silva & I have been exchanging a few emails recently about GMC pricing, reasons for buying, etc. One of the things I mentioned as being (way down) on my list was this:
Evacuation Pod - The evacuation pod idea is now modestly viable because NC has made mandatory evacuations subject to fines if you ignore them. My wife & I already leave our waterfront home when a hurricane approaches but we just go into town and stay at the real estate office. But there is now increased likelihood that our county will order an evacuation of the town and we'll have to go inland --perhaps for days. I also have a family member that lives alone (and my family & I assist due to disabilities) and would also need to be evacuated. Yes, we could go to relatives, but you know the old saying about "after 3 days...." And if we take a major hit that destroys property and infrastructure, a familiar motorhome would be worth 10 times it's weight in FEMA trailers. Or, more likely in our case, hotel rooms and temporary apartments. I'll add that the extra generators and refrigerators in the coaches will be handy during the power outages.
NC Law via WTKR News: "A new law in North Carolina means you could face a fine and criminal charges if you ignore a mandatory evacuation order. The law passed in 2012’s General Assembly and goes into effect October 1st, 2012. It makes it a class-two misdemeanor to not leave when ordered to do so. Those who stay could be fined up to $1,000 and be removed from their homes. Dare County Emergency Management Coordinator explains, 'It gives us the leverage if we have people in a threatened area who do not want to leave to go ahead and move them.' "
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76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Black tank: side bath vs rear bath? [message #195669 is a reply to message #195628] |
Wed, 16 January 2013 08:42 |
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Matt Colie
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| Robin Hood wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 19:40 |
Well the good news is that my wife and I just had a nice long conversation, and she really likes the idea of the Royale as a lifeboat. Whether that lifeboat be to escape hurricanes and weather, or to weather the storms of job loss and having to get by on just her income. Anyway we have run the numbers and there is enough money in theory at the end of this month and in February to take care of fixing up the Royale. As in new black tank new rims new tires and some other odds and ends. It feels so incredibly weird to have a wife this supportive. She says that she would love to have a diamond ring don't get her wrong, but a diamond ring isn't going to do her any good if the house gets blown away in a hurricane or a flood or if I lose my job or something bad happens. I have married the most awesome girl.
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Robin,
We share a situation vis-a-vis wives.
But the topic has experienced some normal drift. (Break is over - back on your head.) From the pictures I saw, it looks like the dump flange got ripped out of the tank and took a large piece of the tank with it. While this might be repairable if you can find a good PE/PP plastic fabrication shop, I kind of doubt that it will be a cost effective repair. I know what the repairs to my tank cost and it was merely cracked.
What I suggest is that you replace the tank. If JimK doesn't have one waiting, you might have to take the tank down and get a replacement made up.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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