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| Re: Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194393 is a reply to message #194390] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 19:19   |
rcjordan
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Kerry, you're killing me with this metal work! Crap, I can't do a decent 90. Using copper. With a sheet metal brake.
Why do I have the feeling that, when finished, your GMC is going to end up being mistaken for an Airstream? Heh!
Nice work. I'm jealous.
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76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194396 is a reply to message #194387] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 19:34 |
Ken Henderson
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Darn, Kerry! I was just talking about a $40 ring & disc like I bought from
JC Whitney 10+ years ago! Not a JEWEL!
TOO nice! (And the $40 things are apparently no longer available anyway.)
Y'all just don't understand how fast he is -- we only talked on Friday!
Ken H.
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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> I was talking to Ken Henderson and mentioned I was making an aluminum
> cover for my spare. He said: "They're not that expensive you know." I
> responded, "Yeah, but this is what I do and buying one would be like you
> having someone else do an alignment on your coach." :lol: :lol:
> ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194397 is a reply to message #194396] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 19:44 |
rcjordan
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>Y'all just don't understand how fast he is -- we only talked on Friday!
Yeah, I do. I picked up on that back when Kerry said it would be faster to build a new cab for his transport project than it would be to repair the old, rusted cab he had on hand.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194402 is a reply to message #194399] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 20:32 |
kerry pinkerton
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 19:34 |
...Y'all just don't understand how fast he is -- we only talked on Friday!...
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Well, to be fair, I was about halfway done when we talked Ken.
| WD0AFQ wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 19:50 |
Kerry, I will be down in Hamilton soon, visiting family. Hope to run over to 65 and up to Columbia Tn, to see my son....
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Dan I hope you find time to stop by. We're only a short detour off I65 just below the TN line. Send me a PM and let me know when you're going to be around.
Thanks for the kind words guys.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194406 is a reply to message #194404] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 20:52 |
Dennis S
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Kerry,
Wow! What a great looking wheel cover.
Just curious -- did you consider making it as a two piece -- similar to the polished stainless and fiberglass styles?
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194407 is a reply to message #194406] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 21:04 |
kerry pinkerton
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| Dennis S wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 20:52 |
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Just curious -- did you consider making it as a two piece -- similar to the polished stainless and fiberglass styles?
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Thanks Dennis. Actually I did but Ken mentioned it was a pain to keep the center lined up while you were putting the ring on. It would be pretty easy to make them in two pieces. The welding and finishing the weld is the most time consuming part.
The way it's made, it will just slip right down from the top if not for the ladder. I may redesign the bottom after we get back from Tampa.
I thought a lot about attachment options. I'm not convinced that having a drilled and tapped hole in the center of the 'hub' with a large headed (4" or so) bolt like center to hold the whole thing in place. I was thinking about doing something like this but the 'bolt' would actually be a real backup light that would unplug and unscrew to remove the cover.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194409 is a reply to message #194407] |
Sun, 30 December 2012 21:12 |
Dennis S
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| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 21:04 |
| Dennis S wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 20:52 |
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Just curious -- did you consider making it as a two piece -- similar to the polished stainless and fiberglass styles?
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Thanks Dennis. Actually I did but Ken mentioned it was a pain to keep the center lined up while you were putting the ring on. It would be pretty easy to make them in two pieces. The welding and finishing the weld is the most time consuming part.
The way it's made, it will just slip right down from the top if not for the ladder. I may redesign the bottom after we get back from Tampa.
I thought a lot about attachment options. I'm not convinced that having a drilled and tapped hole in the center of the 'hub' with a large headed (4" or so) bolt like center to hold the whole thing in place. I was thinking about doing something like this but the 'bolt' would actually be a real backup light that would unplug and unscrew to remove the cover.
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Kerry,
Interesting ideas -- especially the back-up light.
The PO of my 76 stored the spare reversed and used the space behind the wheel cover for storage.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/76-gmc-coachmen-center-kitchen/p32047-iphonegmcrville-011.html
I always thought a third brake light mounted in the spare wheel cover would be a good line of sight with most vehicles.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194426 is a reply to message #194410] |
Mon, 31 December 2012 08:11 |
jhbridges
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A switched backup light would be an asset. I'd be able to turn it on while connecting the toad towbar and wiring, it would save time and fumbling, since it's often dark when I head out.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover
Dennis S wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 21:12
> ...Interesting ideas -- especially the back-up light.
> The PO of my 76 stored the spare reversed and used the space behind the wheel cover for storage. ...
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> I always thought a third brake light mounted in the spare wheel cover would be a good line of sight with most vehicles....
I was going to do that but didn't have time to build a new mount...yet. That will be a good place to store the water hose.
It would be nice if there was an access hole so the pressure could be checked and filled as necessary. Unfortunately, the valve is not at 6 o'clock and any hole location would look odd off center. If I rebuild the spare mount, I'll resolve that issue.
The third brake light is a good idea. That could be incorporated with a backup light also.
My thinking on the backup light is to have it on a switch so I could turn it on as needed regardless of the transmission. I've had a situation or two where the ability to quickly flash a light at some jerk on my bumper would be a plus. :twisted:
Speaking of backup lights....are they REQUIRED by law?
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Kerry Pinkerton
North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194429 is a reply to message #194407] |
Mon, 31 December 2012 08:28 |
Ken Henderson
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Kerry,
Sorry I encouraged you to complicate your project: A couple of narrow
hooks over the top of the tire would have solved the cover centering
problem -- wonder why I never before thought of adding some to mine?
I modified the spare tire mount about 12 years ago so I could use the
inside of the spare for storage. At that time, I put a hose in there.
Took it out, for the first time, about 5 years later -- just too much
trouble to R&R. I recommend the mount modification, and would probably use
it if I could, as you can, install a neat door in the cover. External
storage is invaluable on the GMC because of it's absence; being able to
store the water hose or extension cord in the spare would be great -- and
shouldn't interfere with your lighting possibilities.!
Ken H.
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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> Dennis S wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 20:52
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> > Just curious -- did you consider making it as a two piece -- similar to
> the polished stainless and fiberglass styles?
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> Thanks Dennis. Actually I did but Ken mentioned it was a pain to keep the
> center lined up while you were putting the ring on. It would be pretty
> easy to make them in two pieces. The welding and finishing the weld is the
> most time consuming part.
>
> The way it's made, it will just slip right down from the top if not for
> the ladder. I may redesign the bottom after we get back from Tampa.
>
> I thought a lot about attachment options. I'm not convinced that having a
> drilled and tapped hole in the center of the 'hub' with a large headed (4"
> or so) bolt like center to hold the whole thing in place. I was thinking
> about doing something like this but the 'bolt' would actually be a real
> backup light that would unplug and unscrew to remove the cover.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194444 is a reply to message #194429] |
Mon, 31 December 2012 11:19 |
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Mon, 31 December 2012 09:28 |
Kerry,
Sorry I encouraged you to complicate your project: A couple of narrow hooks over the top of the tire would have solved the cover centering problem -- wonder why I never before thought of adding some to mine?
I modified the spare tire mount about 12 years ago so I could use the inside of the spare for storage. At that time, I put a hose in there. Took it out, for the first time, about 5 years later -- just too much trouble to R&R. I recommend the mount modification, and would probably use it if I could, as you can, install a neat door in the cover. External storage is invaluable on the GMC because of it's absence; being able to store the water hose or extension cord in the spare would be great -- and shouldn't interfere with your lighting possibilities.!
Ken H.
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Ken,
I though about that a lot after looking at Emery's mod to the carrier. But then, I would loose the capability to carry two wheels back there. I have done this on a couple of occasions now, and it works well. Saves having to carry the extra inside.
The potable hose lives inside, and the washdown hose lives under the LP tank.
It would be neat if I could come up with a cleaner way to keep the Frank Jenkins cover on a worn tire. A new tire needs waxed paper to get the cover on and then you need to carry (there is that word, again) a large collection of carpet scraps to make the cover stay on a worn and now deflated tire. I hope Kerry has included that though in his design.
Those of you with a 26 that has a pod may not have any Idea how precious storage volume is at times. That is why we sometimes show up at rallies with the "back porch".
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194448 is a reply to message #194444] |
Mon, 31 December 2012 11:40 |
mickeysss
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i need a spare cover that is not an arm and a leg, any ideas and what is the skid design that works great back there, is it needed,
how many times does the back hit something, does the spare fit under the back, i have a hitch there looks bad for that design,
i am wondering what is the best skid design and where to put them, rollers are best i would suppose.
sorry about off thread with the skids but i cannot start threads with my email s being different.
mickey
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On Dec 31, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Mon, 31 December 2012 09:28
>> Kerry,
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>> Sorry I encouraged you to complicate your project: A couple of narrow hooks over the top of the tire would have solved the cover centering problem -- wonder why I never before thought of adding some to mine?
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>> I modified the spare tire mount about 12 years ago so I could use the inside of the spare for storage. At that time, I put a hose in there. Took it out, for the first time, about 5 years later -- just too much trouble to R&R. I recommend the mount modification, and would probably use it if I could, as you can, install a neat door in the cover. External storage is invaluable on the GMC because of it's absence; being able to store the water hose or extension cord in the spare would be great -- and shouldn't interfere with your lighting possibilities.!
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>> Ken H.
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> Ken,
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> I though about that a lot after looking at Emery's mod to the carrier. But then, I would loose the capability to carry two wheels back there. I have done this on a couple of occasions now, and it works well. Saves having to carry the extra inside.
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> The potable hose lives inside, and the washdown hose lives under the LP tank.
>
> It would be neat if I could come up with a cleaner way to keep the Frank Jenkins cover on a worn tire. A new tire needs waxed paper to get the cover on and then you need to carry (there is that word, again) a large collection of carpet scraps to make the cover stay on a worn and now deflated tire. I hope Kerry has included that though in his design.
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> Those of you with a 26 that has a pod may not have any Idea how precious storage volume is at times. That is why we sometimes show up at rallies with the "back porch".
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> Matt
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> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194451 is a reply to message #194448] |
Mon, 31 December 2012 11:49 |
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Kerry, You live in Alabama, I don't think anything is "required" by law there. Too many disasters of cars and trucks on the road.
Back up lights were a neat idea on expensive cars that have trickled down to everything. I doubt that they are a legal requirement.
Lots of the goodies that are on modern cars were only on expensive cars first, then options, then became included on everything on the road. A short list in my experience would include; turn indicators, heaters, air conditioners, automatic transmissions, etc. You can easily add to the list.
See you at International.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hand made aluminum tire cover [message #194503 is a reply to message #194451] |
Mon, 31 December 2012 19:50 |
kerry pinkerton
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Pulled the cover off and worked on it a bit today. I also deflated my spare to make sure it will be tight on it. I hadn't thought about that.
I've decided I made it too wide (tread) and will probably trim an inch or so off and reshrink the inside portion. Kind of a pain to manage with the parts on hinges but it's probably doable.
Going to redo the clamp. The spring isn't very stout so I'm going to come up with something else.
I did a little metalfinishing and it cleaned up pretty well so I'm thinking it will be a brush finish...might polish it if I get bored....really bored.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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