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rallymaster is currently offline  rallymaster   United States
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Hi, y'all.
OK this is really plural, so:
Hi, all y'all

Anybody out there using the 7" Rand McNalley or the 7" Magellan Roadmate
that wants to rave about how good or how bad it is?

I think I'm in the market for a GPS and the 7" version looks like it
would be easier to use.

Any comments, pro or con, on ease of use between 4+ inches and the 7", or
between Rand McNalley and Magellan?

Thanks,

RonC


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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192543 is a reply to message #192542] Sat, 08 December 2012 01:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have two of the Magellan Roadmates
Some time a miss on the house/business numbers on wrong side of the street.
Cross country to Michigan three years ago.
Two years ago up to OR.
This past summer AZ,NM,CO,UT,NV and back to CA.
I kind a like the four year old one.
Shows speed.elevation and ETA on same screen.
The newer you only can see one of the functions at a time.
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>
> Hi, y'all.
> OK this is really plural, so:
> Hi, all y'all
>
> Anybody out there using the 7" Rand McNalley or the 7" Magellan Roadmate
> that wants to rave about how good or how bad it is?
>
> I think I'm in the market for a GPS and the 7" version looks like it
> would be easier to use.
>
> Any comments, pro or con, on ease of use between 4+ inches and the 7", or
> between Rand McNalley and Magellan?
>
> Thanks,
>
> RonC
>
>
> Ron & Linda Clark
> 1978 Eleganza II
> North Plains, ORYGUN
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192546 is a reply to message #192542] Sat, 08 December 2012 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Being a Garmin fan I've not used either product but as for size, IMHO,
bigger is better.
On Dec 8, 2012 2:24 AM, <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:

>
> Hi, y'all.
> OK this is really plural, so:
> Hi, all y'all
>
> Anybody out there using the 7" Rand McNalley or the 7" Magellan Roadmate
> that wants to rave about how good or how bad it is?
>
> I think I'm in the market for a GPS and the 7" version looks like it
> would be easier to use.
>
> Any comments, pro or con, on ease of use between 4+ inches and the 7", or
> between Rand McNalley and Magellan?
>
> Thanks,
>
> RonC
>
>
> Ron & Linda Clark
> 1978 Eleganza II
> North Plains, ORYGUN
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192547 is a reply to message #192542] Sat, 08 December 2012 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Being a Garmin fan I've not used either product but as for size, IMHO,
> bigger is better.
>

I am a Garmin fan also, (own 4 ea)
I rely only on the sound (have to watch the road) so I only use the small
ones ;>)
- few gauges
- no heads-up display
- no rear view
- no TV
- no traffic watch

just a watch-the-road, sort of guy

JWID
gene


> On Dec 8, 2012 2:24 AM, <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi, y'all.
> > OK this is really plural, so:
> > Hi, all y'all
> >
> > Anybody out there using the 7" Rand McNalley or the 7" Magellan Roadmate
> > that wants to rave about how good or how bad it is?
> >
> > I think I'm in the market for a GPS and the 7" version looks like it
> > would be easier to use.
> >
> > Any comments, pro or con, on ease of use between 4+ inches and the 7", or
> > between Rand McNalley and Magellan?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > RonC
> >
> >
> > Ron & Linda Clark
> > 1978 Eleganza II
> > North Plains, ORYGUN
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192558 is a reply to message #192547] Sat, 08 December 2012 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought the 7" Magellan last year (Dec, 2011). Got the rear view camera as a Christmas present (great planning). Other than learning the difference from my TomTom (have had many TomTom's), it works as advertised. There is a new model for this year, that has RV orientated points of interest. BTW, any rear camera setup that you have will work with the Magellan, because the A/V input is common to most of the rear view cameras. No need to buy the Magellan labeled one ($150) if you already have a rear view camera. Input into the Magellan is standard with the Peak (cheaper) brand of rear view cameras, and you could probably use most of the others.
To see more data on the screen, it takes a touch to the lower left hand corner, and data will pop-up and remain on the screen for you to read, then drop out of sight. I find that I miss the constant data that I am used to with the TomTom display.
You will enjoy the 7" display.
The only downfall of the machine as I see it, you cannot input additional POIs if you have a developed additional list.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192559 is a reply to message #192547] Sat, 08 December 2012 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like the Garmin Nuvi. The 2 we have are in the 4.5 inch range. We particularly like the beanbag mount -just toss it on the dash. But if I'm flying somewhere and take it along for use in a rental, I pack just the display and the charger and prop it in the cupholder. Works great.

Just saw one on a flyer while traveling. Best Buy, I believe. $130 or thereabout with lifetime maps.


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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192562 is a reply to message #192542] Sat, 08 December 2012 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My impressions of the 7710 after trying to use it on a coast to coast and back again trip:

Installing the software on my MacBook (10.6.08) resulted in bizarre behavior of my web browser, Safari. Finally had to remove software.

The mount is very stylish but unusable. No way can I mount the 7710 in an appropriate place in my coach.

The display is very "Hi Def" but brightness inadequate for a bright day. Could only use the unit in a dim place while stopped.

Finger drag to pan screen is erratic and imprecise. Zoom in/out difficult.

7710 suggested route from Lafayette, NJ to Quakertown, PA was via 2 two lane "over hill and dale" county roads. This trip is only slightly longer via several nice straight multi lane divided highways that pass by both ends of the journey. ('Shortest Route" option deselected.)

Seldom I'd choose a GPS to plan a motorhome route. That's something I'd expect to do according to the places I'd plan to visit. Using the 7710 involved a lot of "way points" and still resulted it routes of its choosing.

In lieu of a 7710 planned route I wished to let the GPS "follow along" as I drove but could not find a way to make it function without inputting a destination and its choice of accompanying route.

Lots of information in there but no logical way to access it. I would have needed frequent reference to the manual which just doesn't work while traveling.

Overall impression, not at all ready for prime time.

Does that help?

Glenn


Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192567 is a reply to message #192562] Sat, 08 December 2012 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom, what is the number on the one you have? Id like to have a 7 inch that will input my rear view system. Get rid of the 6 inch monitor I have.
On a little side note, I downloaded Map Quest for my Iphone. Heck of a lot better gps that the cheap Tom Tom I bought. Nothing is as good as Streets and Trips though. I am thinking a tablet with Streets and trips mounted to my dash might be cheaper than the Magellan.
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192568 is a reply to message #192567] Sat, 08 December 2012 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Magellan 9055-LM. A friend of mine uses S&T on a laptop for his GPS solution. Only downside, not really daylight viewable. He built an elaborate box to put his laptop in, but ugly solution. I think if you could find a daylight viewable screen, S&T would be a great solution. You can add your own collection of POI's or import someone else's collection.
Some of the commercial POS units have bright daylight viewable screens, but might be hard to chase down. Motion Computing made daylight viewable tablet/laptops, but HP bought them and I don't think HP did anything with the technology. Battery drain was a big problem, but in an RV, that would not be a problem.
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192569 is a reply to message #192568] Sat, 08 December 2012 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Tom. I see tablets now with Windows so Streets and Trips will work. I run my Lowrance while Teri has Streets and Trips opened on the netbook when we are in a new area. Use them both.
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192570 is a reply to message #192569] Sat, 08 December 2012 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom, it looks good for 150 bux. I like being able to put my camera into it. Does it give altitude?
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192572 is a reply to message #192542] Sat, 08 December 2012 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought a RVND7710 this past year. I've had a number of Garmins over the past 7 years or so and have been happy with them too.

Overall, the biggest complaint once I got onto it was poor screen brightness in the bright sunshine, I never had a readability issue with a Garmin. It is a Windoze based device (had the blue screen of death come up once), so its guts maybe a generic Windoze device not designed for outdoors use. Its a little slow calculating a route, but it has to wade through all Bill's code bloat.

I liked the RV specific POI's in (Campgrounds, WalMarts with overnight parking info etc) You can load in your own POI's, but I haven't done that yet.

After leaving Elkhart and heading to the Kentuckian Kampground for GMCES, it was insisting on taking us North to Benton Harbour MI. Not sure what that was about, it took a long time for it to give-up on that as we headed south. (maybe it wanted to go see the home of Heathkit!) But my Garmins have insisted on doing stupid things as well. I use the GPS as a guideline, I don't follow it blindly.

You can also note errors in the mapping etc. and have the software send updates to Rand-McNally

There is a new model RVND7720 which I understand fixes the screen brightness thing.

My understanding is Magellan shows only GoodSam rated campgrounds where the 7710 has all Woodall's plus others.

You can enter your fuel fillups, where, when, how much etc.

It also has checklists got packing the coach etc.

Lots of good stuff there.

As with all GPS units, its only as good as the mapping info. In Canada its continually telling me there is a "Sharpe Curve Ahead".

One thing I wish it had was the ability to limit the steepness of a grade on a calculated route.

Overall I like it, but the daytime brightness is a big issue.




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Rand McNally 7720 (new model) [message #192595 is a reply to message #192572] Sun, 09 December 2012 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought the new 7720, mostly to use with my much larger
and heavier diesel pusher.

You can program in the weight, height and length of your coach.
This stuck me as useful. It gives you a warning before
you take your coach where you should not go.


Haven't made much time to configure and play with it
but is seems good not great.

Here is a link to buy it at a small discount
but you could likely find a better price on Amazon.

http://store.randmcnally.com/landing/fmca.html?SCCampaign=FALL11FMCA


Lots of good info over at this RV forum...

http://www.irv2.com/forums/tags/gps.html





Bukzin
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192615 is a reply to message #192542] Sun, 09 December 2012 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom, does the video plug into a usb adapter cable? Trying to research this and see no video plug ins on the unit. Also, can you move the speedometer around on the unit and make it larger? I have it centered on my Lowrance and fairly large so it is easily seen. Altitude reading is important to me in the GMC. I can not find anywhere that says this unit will read that out.
Thanks,
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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192617 is a reply to message #192542] Sun, 09 December 2012 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a Garmin Nuvi which shows me where to go, but I sure wish it had settings for larger vehicles. It's occasionally sent me places that only a car should go. I'm sure Garmin probably makes something for truckers, but I don't see anything on the options for my unit that addresses large vehicles.

Jack Christensen - K6ROW, '76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet", Sebastopol, CA
Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192618 is a reply to message #192617] Sun, 09 December 2012 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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9055-LM does not read altitude, as near as I can find. The A/V input is a 3 connector 3.5 mm plug. No USB. No external antenna input. No NEMA sentence output (APRS). These are things that I really wanted, but the designers are dumbing down the units, for the uninformed, general consumer.
However, it is nice to be able to see the large screen.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192619 is a reply to message #192618] Sun, 09 December 2012 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tphipps wrote on Sun, 09 December 2012 15:49

9055-LM does not read altitude, as near as I can find. The A/V input is a 3 connector 3.5 mm plug. No USB. No external antenna input. No NEMA sentence output (APRS). These are things that I really wanted, but the designers are dumbing down the units, for the uninformed, general consumer.
However, it is nice to be able to see the large screen.
Tom, MS II


Ok, thanks Tom.


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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192622 is a reply to message #192542] Sun, 09 December 2012 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On this link, a vendor gives a review between the RVND7710 and 7720.
Apparently the brightness is about the same on the new 7720 as the 7710.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f256/rand-mcnally-tripmaker-rvnd-7720-gps-with-lifetime-maps-299-95-a-144396.html

You need to scroll down the page a bit to find his comparison.


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Re: [GMCnet] GPS [message #192623 is a reply to message #192559] Sun, 09 December 2012 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also have the Garmin Nuvi which can be used as either car or truck. I also use the beanbag mount that has steel shot. When I fly and rent a car I carry the beanbag too (gives TSA a chance to earn their daily bread).

jim galbavy
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I've used a Garmin Nuvi465LTM which is a trucker's unit. Difference between it and the RVND7710/7720 is that the Trucker's unit shows weight scales, load restricted roads etc, things that matter to truckers.

They don't show campgrounds, museums and POI's etc, things that matter to RV'ers.

The RV and Trucker units do have many things in common relating to the size of the vehicle and routing to accommodate them. Also truck stops etc.

Paula is the navigator and works the map verses the GPS. The GPS is great at getting us navigated through a city where Province and state maps leave out alot of detail. Paula is great at finding us the most interesting route along the way. When we are traveling we are not in a race to get to the next destination the shortest/quickest way. We like to shunpike and see countryside not the interstates.

The RVND7710 has a few "scenic tours" for vacationers, but none that have been useful to us. It would be great if there was a site where you could list things of interest in your area so a person could say i want to go to this general area an you could get a routing with places of interest along the way.



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