| ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189096] |
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jaholland
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 6 Kw Starter Mounting Bracket Question
I have pulled the Starter and it checked out O K `
BUT
The Starter Mounting Braket Is Broken In Half
P/N 191-0929
ALSO
The Muffler and Starter Baffel Braket Is Broken
P/N 134-2607
I removed the Broken Starter Mount Bracket curved
Part that was attached to the nose of the starter
and the bottom of the flywheel housing
BUT
I Don't Know How To remove the larger broken piece
My intentions was to weld the broken parts and
re=attach Them ~
Any helpful advice would be GREATLY Appreciated
~ Joe ~
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" Joe & Lavelle " "
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'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189112 is a reply to message #189109] |
Sat, 03 November 2012 19:49  |
Cadillackeeper
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Woosh ,Been there done that already.Unfortunately you Must take the flywheel off to fix it.also the reason it broke is you obviously need 4 new rubber mounts as well cause that is how you broke it in the first place.I did the same thing sliding it in and out,when the mounts are dead the gen hangs too low to slide in proper and when one forces it in it shatters the starter mount.Look close and you will see what I mean.
Its not hard you just need the right puller.
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189117 is a reply to message #189096] |
Sat, 03 November 2012 20:52 |
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jaholland
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Thanks For The Quick Comebacks ~
I was hoping for an Easy QUICK On The
Road Fix for some Onan Power' ~ I'll
just tape up the wires, put the starter
and broken brackets in the roof pod and
wait til we get back to WARMER Alebamy ~
The starter seemed to be hanging up at
times and the Onan was getting harder and
harder to start. I Pulled the starter out
ok to have it checked out and when I tryed
re-installing I could not get it in firm ~
I should have waited til e\we got back home
It looks like No Mo Wally World Camping on
our way back home W/O The Onan Power
UNLESS
I can find an available light pole in their
parking lots with outlets LOL ~
The '78 Eleganza Ii has been running real
good on this northern trip and is still
getting decent fuel mileage.
Been real pleased with the The Edelbrock
Preformer Aluminum Intake Manifold system
{with the filled exaust crossover}
Even the ole furnace has been putting out
excellent heat without any problems and I
Can See The Dash Gauges since I installed
the "Lil Jimmy Steering Wheel"
such as on the road again in a Classic GMC
~ Joe ~
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" Joe & Lavelle " "
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'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189248 is a reply to message #189119] |
Mon, 05 November 2012 13:07 |
Carl S.
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| jaholland wrote on Sat, 03 November 2012 19:02 |
| Cadillackeeper wrote on Sat, 03 November 2012 19:49 |
Woosh ,Been there done that already.Unfortunately you Must take the flywheel off to fix it.also the reason it broke is you obviously need 4 new rubber mounts as well cause that is how you broke it in the first place.I did the same thing sliding it in and out,when the mounts are dead the gen hangs too low to slide in proper and when one forces it in it shatters the starter mount.Look close and you will see what I mean.
Its not hard you just need the right puller.
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So I'm going to need the following parts;
~> One # 134-2607 Muffler/Starter Baffel Bracket
~> One # 191-0929 Starter Mounting Bracket
~> Four # 402-0284 Cushion Motor Mounts
Four # 402-0412 Motor Mount Bolts
Four # 870-0281 Motor Mount Bolt Nuts
and a fly wheel puller
and
I've Nebber Dun Dis Afour ~
~ Joe ~
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Joe,
Unless the 'motor mount bolts' and nuts are rusted badly, there is no need to replace them. My coach is a Southwestern coach, so they were pretty clean. All I did was buff them up with a wire wheel on my bench grinder. I guess if yours are badly pitted, then you might consider replacing them.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189268 is a reply to message #189263] |
Mon, 05 November 2012 18:56 |
tphipps
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M&D Mower web site for replacement cushions. Suggest replacing them one at a time. Might become hard to handle if you remove the worn out mounts in toto, then attempt to install the new ones. Not a difficult task.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189286 is a reply to message #189268] |
Mon, 05 November 2012 22:04 |
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jaholland
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~I Done Went And Did It All By Myself ~
7:30 AM / 8:30 AM
It's My Breakfast Time
Country Ham {cooked well done}
Red Eye Gravy
2 Hen Apples {over easy}
Hash Brown Taters {skatered and smuthered}
3 Cat Head Biskits {with blackberry preserves}
And
A Cup of Community Chickory Coffee
8:45 AM ~
Stopped by the Cummins / ONAN Parts Department
and picked up Onan Starter Bracket
and 4 Engine Mount Bolts
9:45 AM ~
Went to Harbor Freicht And Made A Major Investment
~> <http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-
motorcycle/pullers/46-piece-bolt-puller-set-37824.html>
10:30 AM
Laid out my tools for a job that I have never seen don ~
With the 6 Kw Barbaitan slid out I started Removing
Screws One By One
Removed front cover
Removed Fly Wheel Guard Cover
Removed Fly Wheel
Removed Remaining Piece Of Starter Bracket
Removed Remaining Piece of the Muffler Baffel Bracket
11:15 AM ~.
Community Chickory Blend Coffee Break Time
Wuupps
12:30 / 2:30
It's My Official Lunch Time
and it done snuck up on me too
2:30 PM
R & R 4 Cushion Engine Mount Bolts
Installed Starter Mount Bracket
Installed Muffler Baffel Bracket
Installed Fly Wheel
Inatalled Fly Wheel Cover
Installed 6 Kw Onan Generator Front Cover
3:15 PM
Looked And Looked For The Minature Horseshoe Cotter Clip
That SOMEBODY Must Have Picked Up
While I Was On My Second Official Coffee Break
3:41 PM
Found another horseshoeclip and put it on
3:45 PM
Community Chickory Blend OFFICIAL Coffee Break Time
4:03 Pm
Cranked up the GMC {with the 2nd cup of coffee in my hand}
Walked back to the panel and fired uo the Onan Barbarian ~
3 revs and it fired uo
No Rattles
No Strange Vibrations
Purred Much Quieter Than It Has In A Long Time
4:45 PM
Shut everything down because Quiting Time Ia a coming
Cleaned up my mess
Put the tools away
Washed up
5;00 PM
It Is Finished
Lets See Now
7:30 AM Til 5:00 PM
That's 9 1/2 Hours Billable Time
Plus Parts
Man I'd Be Broke Ifn I Had To Pay Myself
~ Joe ~
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" Joe & Lavelle " "
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'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189291 is a reply to message #189263] |
Mon, 05 November 2012 23:46 |
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Dan,
You’re the best kind of company - not only friendly, but you leave the booze for me!
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Dan Gregg wrote:
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| Re: ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189316 is a reply to message #189096] |
Tue, 06 November 2012 08:27 |
Cadillackeeper
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Nice!!!!!Kinda like me a "Mechanic by nessecsity"Nothing is rocket science on a cool old GMC!!!!!!
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~ ONAN ~ The Barbarian ~ [message #189319 is a reply to message #189286] |
Tue, 06 November 2012 10:18 |
Carl S.
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Good goin' Joe. It was easy, wasn't it?
That sounds like one of my jobs. A few weekends ago, I changed out the transmission fluid/filter, and rear differential oil in my Dodge 1-ton. It took me the better part of a full day but I only had about $95.00 into it instead of list price for the parts (about $180.00) and two or three hours on shop labor (at about $100.00/hr). The shop would not have cleaned and painted the diff cover, or buffed up all the bolts either. Plus, I KNOW it was done right.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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