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Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors [message #188891 is a reply to message #188877] |
Thu, 01 November 2012 11:08 |
kerry pinkerton
Messages: 2565 Registered: July 2012 Location: Harvest, Al
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Beautiful coach Ken. Couple questions.
1- I only see one bed? Does it fold out or something?
2- There is a riser on top of the engine cover. Is that just a spacer to get your table to the correct height or is your engine 'taller' for some reason?
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors [message #188892 is a reply to message #188873] |
Thu, 01 November 2012 11:28 |
powerjon
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Rob, et all,
It can be a problem in mounting a microwave in our coaches. In our 77
Eleganza it came with an under cabinet mount on the upper cabinet just
left of the stove for a small microwave. Worked great when in use,
but you have to take it down for travel to be safe. When I did the
total interior remodel of that coach, I looked at a large number
installations of cooktop and microwaves. Some were mounted high, some
on the counter top and some were mounted low or under the cooktop
where the oven used to be. Asked the owners what they did and did not
like about their installation. Hands down the WIVES, better know as
the BOSS in the kitchen area hated the low or under the cooktop
installation. It was hard to use and you had to get on your knees to
see and set. The counter top setup was also less liked. The most
popular was the eye level or under cabinet installation.
The following pictures are how we installed a Sharp model 820
Convection/microwave unit. The Sharp unit is somewhat deeper than a
conventional microwave so I had to allow for the extra depth. I
actually made a mockup of the Sharp unit so I could check the fit
before final assembly. The mockup is considerably lighter that the
real unit.
The mockup:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p46268-img-0510.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p46269-img-0511.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p46270-img-0512.html
The installation:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kitchen-vent-hood/p33179-microwave-mmounting.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kitchen-vent-hood/p10980.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kitchen-vent-hood/p10977.html
In the this picture you can see the vent duct work. It actually runs
back up the wall of the coach and exit from the original location on
the body.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kitchen-vent-hood/p10978.html
This picture shows a close up of the switches that you seen the first
photo.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p379.html
The space that was occupied by the oven was convert to valuable
storage space and a new door was fabbed up.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p381.html
The money shot of the kitchen.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-restoration/p380.html
I also have a 1975 Avion model. I plan to do an installation similar
to this to get the unit up higher. The area where the stove/oven will
be turn into extra storage. Although there is a window in that
location, how many times do you actually look out of it and it is a
non opening window. The window will still be there and provide
daytime light for the counter top.
As for venting I already have an idea on how to handle that.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Nov 1, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Byron,
>
> You are absolutely 100% correct vis-à-vis having the microwave
> somewhere else preferably at eye height which is what I really
> Wanted.
>
> However, the task goes from a relatively simple to a complex mod
> with "downsides" in an Avion.
>
> Lets say you put it above the cooktop:
>
> 1) You have to make a cabinet for it
> 2) It blocks the window
> 2) It complicates having an exhaust hood above the cooktop
>
> Lets say you put it above the refrigerator:
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> 1) You can't have a large two door fridge like the one I have in
> Double Trouble
> 2) The microwave door opens the wrong direction — they are all
> hinged on the left as you face them
>
> If anyone has any ideas where it can go I'm all ears as the interior
> of The Blue Streak is gutted.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Byron Songer
>
> Been there, done that with a Sharp Convection/Microwave at that
> level. It
> Seems like a good idea until you actually use it. Better to have the
> Microwave over the refrigerator or somewhere else.
>
> Stick, the idea of a bar sink and a single hot plate sounds Good.
> For only a
> tad more space you can also get a two burner and mount it so it
> takes up
> Little width-wise. However, for those that love eating someone else's
> Cooking while "roughing it," a single burner would do the trick.
> However,
> I'd definitely go for the combination oven mounted at eye level.
>
> Generally, we use a coffee maker and microwave more than anything
> else.
>
> For the sofa, get one as long as the space allows. A good jack-knife
> sofa
> Would fit well opposite some club chairs. For the chairs, some that
> have a
> Reclining back would work but you can forget about a flip-up foot
> rest.
> There just isn't room.
>
> Put a TV on a good swivel mount that swings out from the end of the
> couch
> And you'd be good to go. One person could watch TV in a chair and
> the other
> lazy dude could lay on the couch and still see out the upper part of
> the
> Lenses. (I do hate watching football in a recliner. I need to mount
> my TV
> Higher.)
>
> Byron Songer
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Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors [message #188893 is a reply to message #188890] |
Thu, 01 November 2012 11:45 |
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I'm not Gene.
Here's my suggestion. Get a Mac. Use Keynote to make a slide show. Save it
as a PDF. You'll be good to go and not have a stupid commercial on each
slide for something else.
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Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com
A. wrote:
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> Mr ERFisher wrote on Thu, 01 November 2012 09:18
>> This is where I am mounting my new Microwave in by 73-23
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6222/microwave.pdf
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>> the PO had it under the stove,
>> but
>> - getting on hands and knees to look in
>> - bumping our heads on one over the stove
>> were not an option.
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>> this was a $50 microwave from Cost-co,
>> I am just now framing it in
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>> gene
> Mr. ERFisher,
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> Could you post instructions for creating a PDF like the one posted, please?
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> I like it a lot. It works well if captions are not required. Much better for
> moving back and forth through photos without having to scroll the browser to
> see the bottom of EVERY SINGLE PHOTO, only to have to scroll back up to get to
> the forward button to see the next one.
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Re: Innovative interiors [message #188924 is a reply to message #188837] |
Thu, 01 November 2012 20:07 |
Chr$
Messages: 2690 Registered: January 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I second the Mac. Keynote rocks, and PDF conversion is native in the Mac.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors [message #188960 is a reply to message #188893] |
Fri, 02 November 2012 08:05 |
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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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Byron Songer wrote on Thu, 01 November 2012 12:45 | I'm not Gene.
Here's my suggestion. Get a Mac. Use Keynote to make a slide show. Save it as a PDF. You'll be good to go and not have a stupid commercial on each slide for something else.
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Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com
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I can't believe that I will ever be wealthy enough to own a Mac anything (other than a device address). It happens that this is not an issue at all in this case. Both Open Office Impress and Corel Presentations will save a file as *.pdf. The only problem with this as a distribution is that only the end frame is printed, so all the fancy schancy that you built into the show are lost.
Why didn't I mention PP? Because the computers I still have working are still owned by the company and so - by MS rules - are not eligible for MSO home/student, only the 430+$us(ea) small business package. If they actually provided support, that might change my opinion. When they couldn't fix the problems I had with the three full price licenses I had for 2003 and finally suggested that maybe an upgrade (at full price) to the newer might cure the print issues, I went back to Corel.
Open Office also has a lot to offer, but parts of it just don't work all that well. Then there is MS Works, talk about an oxymoron. Corel went them one better with Corel Office. This is low cost (cheap) package that works as well an MSW and seems to be more compatible the MSOffice and is missing almost all of WordPerect's best features.
It doesn't matter what you do. Someone is out there trying his best to make things that should be simple, more difficult.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors [message #188981 is a reply to message #188978] |
Fri, 02 November 2012 12:33 |
Ray Erspamer
Messages: 1707 Registered: May 2007 Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin
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Beautiful Job, that is similar to what we want to do. Single compartment sink,
we have a 3 burner Dometic glass covered cook top to install. VERY NICE!
Can I ask where you purchased the sink ??? I like the size of it.
Ray
Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Sean Kidd <fiatkidd@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Fri, November 2, 2012 12:29:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46275-new-kitchen.html
I just installed my over the range microwave here, converted to two burner drop
in mounted sideways and an IKEA sink also sidways. Standard Lowes 24" 12" and
24" bases. Backsplash from countertop cut off and custom Stainless backsplash/
transition will be installed in the next couple weeks. I manufactured a duct to
exhaust vent to top of microwave to allow functional use of vent.
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73 Canyonlands 26' #317
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Re: Innovative interiors [message #188990 is a reply to message #188978] |
Fri, 02 November 2012 13:32 |
Carl S.
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SeanKidd wrote on Fri, 02 November 2012 10:29 | http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46275-new-kitchen.html
I just installed my over the range microwave here, converted to two burner drop in mounted sideways and an IKEA sink also sidways. Standard Lowes 24" 12" and 24" bases. Backsplash from countertop cut off and custom Stainless backsplash/ transition will be installed in the next couple weeks. I manufactured a duct to exhaust vent to top of microwave to allow functional use of vent.
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Very nice! The counter top layout is very similar to what I did last summer. The amount of extra counter top space is incredible.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/counter-top-etc/p40880-all-done.html
After using it for about a year, I did add a small extension to aid in dish washing space.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/counter-top-etc/p45149-drop-leaf-extension.html
I would still like to mount the microwave up high, like you did, I just want to figure out a way to retain the exhaust hood.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors [message #188991 is a reply to message #188990] |
Fri, 02 November 2012 13:41 |
Ray Erspamer
Messages: 1707 Registered: May 2007 Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin
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Your kitchen is gorgeous too ! That corian with the built in sink looks
pricey....but sure is nice !
Ray
Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Fri, November 2, 2012 1:33:11 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors
SeanKidd wrote on Fri, 02 November 2012 10:29
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46275-new-kitchen.html
>
> I just installed my over the range microwave here, converted to two burner drop
>in mounted sideways and an IKEA sink also sidways. Standard Lowes 24" 12" and
>24" bases. Backsplash from countertop cut off and custom Stainless backsplash/
>transition will be installed in the next couple weeks. I manufactured a duct to
>exhaust vent to top of microwave to allow functional use of vent.
Very nice! The counter top layout is very similar to what I did last summer.
The amount of extra counter top space is incredible.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/counter-top-etc/p40880-all-done.html
After using it for about a year, I did add a small extension to aid in dish
washing space.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/counter-top-etc/p45149-drop-leaf-extension.html
I would still like to mount the microwave up high, like you did, I just want to
figure out a way to retain the exhaust hood.
--
Carl S.
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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Re: Innovative interiors [message #188994 is a reply to message #188837] |
Fri, 02 November 2012 14:09 |
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SeanKidd
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The over the range microwaves have their exhaust on the very top of the oven, with the option to switch from top exhaust or back exhaust, I was a tin knocker in the Navy (Aviation Structural Mechanic)I made a contoured "box" to fit in the void between the back of the MW and the coach wall. The coach existing opening will not be centered, but you simply cut the openings to match you oven,I sealed everything with metal tape and sealed the rectangular opening for the MW with high density foam weatherstrip.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46277-microwave-duct.html
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
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Re: [GMCnet] Innovative interiors [message #189000 is a reply to message #188991] |
Fri, 02 November 2012 15:23 |
Carl S.
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Ray, I am a general contractor. The piece of top I used was salvaged from a convenience store remodel, and I fabricated everything myself. The undermount sink was an internet item and was under $100.00. The stove was from Colaw RV salvage (surplus) and was under $90.00. It still cost me more than I expected it to, about $400 - 500.00.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: Innovative interiors [message #189001 is a reply to message #188994] |
Fri, 02 November 2012 15:26 |
Carl S.
Messages: 4186 Registered: January 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ.
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SeanKidd wrote on Fri, 02 November 2012 12:09 | The over the range microwaves have their exhaust on the very top of the oven, with the option to switch from top exhaust or back exhaust, I was a tin knocker in the Navy (Aviation Structural Mechanic)I made a contoured "box" to fit in the void between the back of the MW and the coach wall. The coach existing opening will not be centered, but you simply cut the openings to match you oven,I sealed everything with metal tape and sealed the rectangular opening for the MW with high density foam weatherstrip.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46277-microwave-duct.html
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So, you used an over-the-range microwave. I thought of that but haven't found a suitable unit yet. Our microwave does need to be replaced. It works fine, but the PO had the Onan set too high and the high voltage evidently burned up the display. You have to guess at it.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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