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kerry pinkerton
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Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides  , I thought I'd start over.
The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
So the options, as I think I see it, are:
1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. The wife can sleep fine in the standard bed so the blanket storage on the right side wouldn't have to change. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
Thanks in advance.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188805 is a reply to message #188803] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 08:59  |
Dennis S
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| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 08:45 |
Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides , I thought I'd start over.
The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
So the options, as I think I see it, are:
1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. The wife can sleep fine in the standard bed so the blanket storage on the right side wouldn't have to change. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
Thanks in advance.
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Kerry,
I still suggest you consider using two sofas in the front -- creating twin beds in that area. The rear lounge has the best window views in the coach with the large rear facing glass.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/76-gmc-coachmen-center-kitchen/p32043-0011.html
Dennis
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188806 is a reply to message #188805] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 09:02 |
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Dennis:
Clever flip out behind the seats.
Are those parts from the Dinette?
Dolph
On Oct 31, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 08:45
>> Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides :lol:, I thought I'd start over.
>>
>> The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
>>
>> So the options, as I think I see it, are:
>>
>> 1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
>> 2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
>> 3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
>> 4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
>>
>> What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
>>
>> Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. The wife can sleep fine in the standard bed so the blanket storage on the right side wouldn't have to change. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
>>
>> I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
>>
>> So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
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> Kerry,
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> I still suggest you consider using two sofas in the front -- creating twin beds in that area. The rear lounge has the best window views in the coach with the large rear facing glass.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/76-gmc-coachmen-center-kitchen/p32043-0011.html
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> Dennis
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188807 is a reply to message #188806] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 09:09 |
Dennis S
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Dolph,
Yes, the original owner of the coach apparantly did not like the front kitchen, rear bath model and had the coach reconfigured. Side dry bath, large bed in the back and they split the table to create the flip out dining areas you see.
Dennis
| Dolph Santorine wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 09:02 |
Dennis:
Clever flip out behind the seats.
Are those parts from the Dinette?
Dolph
On Oct 31, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 08:45
>> Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides , I thought I'd start over.
>>
>> The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
>>
>> So the options, as I think I see it, are:
>>
>> 1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
>> 2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
>> 3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
>> 4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
>>
>> What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
>>
>> Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. The wife can sleep fine in the standard bed so the blanket storage on the right side wouldn't have to change. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
>>
>> I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
>>
>> So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
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> Kerry,
>
> I still suggest you consider using two sofas in the front -- creating twin beds in that area. The rear lounge has the best window views in the coach with the large rear facing glass.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/76-gmc-coachmen-center-kitchen/p32043-0011.html
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> Dennis
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188813 is a reply to message #188807] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 09:46 |
stick miller
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Kerry, are you talking bunks or twins? I think of bunks as one over the other.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188814 is a reply to message #188807] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 09:52 |
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Kerry, I have often thought bunks in the rear would be great. Can't figure out why folks are not doing it unless age, the owner's, has something to do with it. I have little creative skills but can copy what others do, using my not so secret weapon Teri. I'd sure enjoy seeing something along these lines that a fellow owner has done. We have a permanant lift up bed now that provides lots of storage and covers our water tank. The bunks would make for much more room, in my thinking. Or, take the cabinets down and put a bunk above the bed we have now. Rarely use the rear cabinets except for the second satellite tv receiver.
If you come onto a good idea, keep me posted. I can run over and look at your's in person if and when you do it. We have family in the Hamilton, Al and Spring Hill, Tn. areas. Hope to see your work, not only on this but everything else you are working on.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188815 is a reply to message #188803] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 09:54 |
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Kerry,
When we did the total interior renovation on our 77 EL II (which you
have) in 2002 we tried a number of beds layout in the back. The coach
was a #3 floor plan to start with. We had several configurations in
the rear space. The original was the rear davos sets laid down with a
4" foam mattress, that was uncomfortable to say the least. We had
seen bunk bed layouts in other coaches and we tried it for one weekend
and ripped it back out. Had less room than a sleeping module on a
navy ship. The top bunk, which by the way will be yours is extremely
difficult to get into and out of and have to be careful not to hit
your head on the ceiling when moving around. You have to keep the
mattress thickness as thin as possible to not use up the vertical space.
We ended with a full size mattress in the back mounted on a platform
that had gas shocks so it could lift up for storage and she slept back
there and I had the stock full size redone with extra foam to make it
a comfortable sleeping couch. Did away with the bunk bed mattress in
the front and had new back cushions made to replace that. Just
stacked the cushions up front and it was a very nice sleeping area.
You have separated twin beds and she gets the big one, which she will
really like.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1977-interior/p37061-gedc00521.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1977-interior/p37062-gedc00531.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1977-interior/p37060-gedc0051.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1977-interior/p37059-gedc00501.html
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/tiltbed/index.html
http://www.bdub.net/bed_lift/index.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1977-interior/p37039-gedc0030.html
I don't have any pictures of the bunk bed layout as it wasn't their
long enough to get the camera out.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
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> Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking
> slides :lol:, I thought I'd start over.
>
> The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the
> wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over
> each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help
> but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
>
> So the options, as I think I see it, are:
>
> 1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
> 2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work
> but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do
> for fun anyway.
> 3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
> 4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
>
> What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
>
> Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the
> rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal.
> Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However,
> there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be
> built depending on the actual configuration.
>
> I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they
> PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches
> that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on
> the photo site and haven't seen anything.
>
> So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what
> would you do different? Photos?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188825 is a reply to message #188803] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 11:12 |
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Kerry
Dick Wilson, in Plain City, Ohio, has bunk beds cross-ways in the back.
That looks like a good option to me.
Change the overhead cabinets to vertical in front of the bunks would add
useful storage.
Seven & 1/2 feet of space for the upper looks good for tall people. JMHO
Gary Kosier
77PB & 77ELII
Newark, Ohio
-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:46 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear?
Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides :lol:, I
thought I'd start over.
The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and
I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what
is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly
common desire for many of us.
So the options, as I think I see it, are:
1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm
more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I
can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. Obviously, the rear
cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for
some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual
configuration.
I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me
last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done
this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and
haven't seen anything.
So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you
do different? Photos?
Thanks in advance.
--
Kerry Pinkerton
North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, The Lady, 403
76 Eleganza being rebodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188827 is a reply to message #188803] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 11:23 |
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It sounds cold and lonely to me. I wouldn't like it, but then again, I'm only 56. 
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188829 is a reply to message #188815] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 11:25 |
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| powerjon wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 10:54 |
The top bunk, which by the way will be yours is extremely
difficult to get into and out of and have to be careful not to hit
your head on the ceiling when moving around.
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Reminds me of the story of my aunt and uncle travelling through Europe in the 1960's in a VW camper. Of course, he got the top bunk and was very close to the ceiling. The first night he said he kept smelling something. It turned out to be his own breath. After skinning his nose up a couple of times on the ceiling, he made some other arrangements for sleeping.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188830 is a reply to message #188825] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 11:28 |
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Some P.O. put a framework for a single cross-wise
mattress to replace what I believe WAS originally
a gaucho arrangement. It has a notch at the left
rear for that tail light. I'm under 6' by a couple
of inches and while the sleeping width is a bit on
the tight side (probably about standard double) we
have found it usable. Matress is quite comfortable.
The small "bin" at the head (curb-side) could be
removed to gain at least six more inches of length.
I have the limited bladder endurance, so I sleep
on the side forward. If one of us must rise during
the night, so be it. After almost 52 years married
we have learned to ignore MOST inconveniences. We
camped for years in a 1966 Apache tent trailer!
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> From: gkosier@roadrunner.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:12:31 -0400
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear?
>
> Kerry
>
> Dick Wilson, in Plain City, Ohio, has bunk beds cross-ways in the back.
> That looks like a good option to me.
> Change the overhead cabinets to vertical in front of the bunks would add
> useful storage.
> Seven & 1/2 feet of space for the upper looks good for tall people. JMHO
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB & 77ELII
> Newark, Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kerry Pinkerton
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:46 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear?
>
>
>
> Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides :lol:, I
> thought I'd start over.
>
> The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and
> I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what
> is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly
> common desire for many of us.
>
> So the options, as I think I see it, are:
>
> 1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
> 2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm
> more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
> 3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
> 4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
>
> What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
>
> Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I
> can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. Obviously, the rear
> cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for
> some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual
> configuration.
>
> I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me
> last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done
> this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and
> haven't seen anything.
>
> So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you
> do different? Photos?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, The Lady, 403
>
>
> 76 Eleganza being rebodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188836 is a reply to message #188825] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 12:48 |
Ron E
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Hi guys I'm a lurker and have been considering a GMC for some time. We
thought a twin bed would be the answer, but, with this info it opens up
many variables.Does any body have pics with bunks and storage, to help with
our decision? we are located in BC Canada, so not a lot of selection
without major travel. thanx in advance... Ron
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Kosier <gkosier@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Kerry
>
> Dick Wilson, in Plain City, Ohio, has bunk beds cross-ways in the back.
> That looks like a good option to me.
> Change the overhead cabinets to vertical in front of the bunks would add
> useful storage.
> Seven & 1/2 feet of space for the upper looks good for tall people. JMHO
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB & 77ELII
> Newark, Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kerry Pinkerton
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:46 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear?
>
>
>
> Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides :lol:, I
> thought I'd start over.
>
> The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and
> I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what
> is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a
> fairly
> common desire for many of us.
>
> So the options, as I think I see it, are:
>
> 1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
> 2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm
> more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
> 3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
> 4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
>
> What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
>
> Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I
> can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. Obviously, the rear
> cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for
> some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual
> configuration.
>
> I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me
> last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done
> this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and
> haven't seen anything.
>
> So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you
> do different? Photos?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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| Re: Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188839 is a reply to message #188803] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 14:32 |
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Sir; Roger Black has a 23' that had a drop down bed from the ceiling in the rear. At one time he was trying to git rid of it. I don`t have any pics but he might. Maybe he will chime in.
| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 09:45 |
Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides , I thought I'd start over.
The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
So the options, as I think I see it, are:
1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. The wife can sleep fine in the standard bed so the blanket storage on the right side wouldn't have to change. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
Thanks in advance.
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| Re: Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188840 is a reply to message #188839] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 14:34 |
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Here it is
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/clean-up/p5661.html
| C Boyd wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 15:32 |
Sir; Roger Black has a 23' that had a drop down bed from the ceiling in the rear. At one time he was trying to git rid of it. I don`t have any pics but he might. Maybe he will chime in.
| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 09:45 |
Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides , I thought I'd start over.
The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
So the options, as I think I see it, are:
1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. The wife can sleep fine in the standard bed so the blanket storage on the right side wouldn't have to change. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
Thanks in advance.
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East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188854 is a reply to message #188803] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 18:25 |
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I saw one that had the double bed in the back as normal and a bunk bed put above it the same width style but right above the windows.
I think it was for kids but it could be lowered to half the height of the windows with the double under it. It was basic metal frame
with wire springs and a 3 inch kids padding on top of it. The bunk was half the size of the double under it. so you could stand on the double
and get in the top half double bunk that was just under the back window, it was interesting. But cheap looking with the frame open to sight.
reminded me of a boy scout cabin bunk beds. It could be made to be put in and out as you need it. the bunk bed was over the double
so you could stand on the double and climb into the top one. interesting idea.
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.
mickey (< 8
On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
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> Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides :lol:, I thought I'd start over.
>
> The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
>
> So the options, as I think I see it, are:
>
> 1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
> 2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
> 3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
> 4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
>
> What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
>
> Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
>
> I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
>
> So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, The Lady, 403
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> 76 Eleganza being rebodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188855 is a reply to message #188813] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 18:25 |
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| Stick Miller wrote on Wed, 31 October 2012 09:46 |
Kerry, are you talking bunks or twins? I think of bunks as one over the other.
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yes, bunk beds. Like you, I think we'd prefer to have a real bedroom rather than have to make and unmake the beds in the front of the coach every night.
Lengthwise twins would be optimal but requires exterior modifications as noted in the first post in this thread. Bunks would be just an interior change and if done the way I'm thinking, it could be reversible with no damage to the existing interior.
I'm thinking (today as opposed to tomorrow) that we could get a piece of foam cut just less than a full size bed. A standard full size bed is 54x75. The wife fits well in 75" and actually would be OK with a twin but cutting down a full size foam mattress to about 46" wide would make it easier for her to get in and out of bed without having to dodge the upper bunk. The left over space would be a 'step' so I can get into and out of the bunk without stepping on the lower mattress. Plus I can put a cabinet on one side to make up for some of the overhead storage lost.
The top bunk would be a LONG twin (I don't move much and can sleep in a twin pretty well). A twin XL is 39x80 and you can buy fitted sheets for that size.
Not ready to start taking things apart but it seems like a viable approach.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear? [message #188857 is a reply to message #188854] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 18:37 |
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The smaller "Trek" motorhomes made by Safari Coach (24 & 28 foot)
had a "Magic Bed" over the "living room" area that ran up and down
on four geared racks on the sidewalls. They offered a LOT of usable
interior space and volume in a coach of a manageable size. I think
the mattress was probably 80" long and MAY have been 60" wide. You'd
lower the bed from the ceiling to maybe waist high for sleeping and
put it back up to the ceiling during the day.
It would take some doing to put in a GMC behind the driver cockpit
what with the curved walls, but I'd bet one of our resident engineer
types could figure out how to do it. You could then remove sleeping
facilities from the rear and add storage, office space, etc. there.
The 24 came in two versions. The one I liked had a large bathroom all
the way across the coach with an "angle" shower stall. The 28 had the
same bath area but added four feet to the kitchen and living areas.
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> From: mickeysss@me.com
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:25:51 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ok, how about bunk beds in the rear?
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> I saw one that had the double bed in the back as normal and a bunk bed put above it the same width style but right above the windows.
>
> I think it was for kids but it could be lowered to half the height of the windows with the double under it. It was basic metal frame
>
> with wire springs and a 3 inch kids padding on top of it. The bunk was half the size of the double under it. so you could stand on the double
>
> and get in the top half double bunk that was just under the back window, it was interesting. But cheap looking with the frame open to sight.
>
> reminded me of a boy scout cabin bunk beds. It could be made to be put in and out as you need it. the bunk bed was over the double
>
> so you could stand on the double and climb into the top one. interesting idea.
>
> 77 palm beach
>
> anaheim ca.
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> mickey (< 8
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> On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Since the other thread turned into a discussion of leaking slides :lol:, I thought I'd start over.
> >
> > The GOAL is to have sleeping arrangements in the bedroom where the wife and I can sleep comfortably and get up without climbing over each other in what is now a standard rear bed coach. I can't help but believe this is a fairly common desire for many of us.
> >
> > So the options, as I think I see it, are:
> >
> > 1- Stretching. Within my skills but I don't really want to do it.
> > 2- Enlarging the rear cap, that is a pseudo stretch. Lots of work but I'm more than capable of the metal shaping and it's what I do for fun anyway.
> > 3- Utilizing the cubic feet we have better.
> > 4- Whining less and just learning to live with it.
> >
> > What I'd like to talk about in this thread is #3.
> >
> > Yesterday, the wife and I were talking about putting bunks in the rear. I can see how it can work and accomplish the goal. Obviously, the rear cabinets would have to be modified. However, there is a possibility for some additional cabinets that could be built depending on the actual configuration.
> >
> > I know at least one person has put bunks in the rear because they PMed me last night. I'd love to see some photos of other coaches that have done this. I've been through all the interior albums on the photo site and haven't seen anything.
> >
> > So how about it? Who's done it? How? What works, doesn't, what would you do different? Photos?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > --
> > Kerry Pinkerton
> >
> > North Alabama, near Huntsville,
> >
> > 77 Eleganza II, The Lady, 403
> >
> >
> > 76 Eleganza being rebodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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