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kerry pinkerton
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My brain never shuts off. Drives me crazy sometimes.
As some of you may remember, I am a metalshaper and fabricator. Having stripped down a 76 Eleganza to her bones for a car hauler project, I understand how she is structured.
Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This was driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of the 23' Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we could live with the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
This idea precedes the purchase of the new coach. These three photos in the album are here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-ideas/p46250-stock.html for the email only folks.
The description and link to the individual images follow.
What if, the rear of the coach was somehow extended enough to provide footroom for twins oriented front to rear I wondered? Then I started noodling about how this could be done on a 'standard' layout coach, that is, side wet bath, rear full size bed. The bath, generator, and water tank are pretty much unmovable without a major effort. Doing a 2 foot add on to the rear was possible but then you run into tail dragging issues as well as having to redo the entire bedroom area.
Here is a line drawing of a standard coach (thanks to Byron Songer). It is to scale and I used 'Kerry Draw' for the design (lol):
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock.jpg
The rear fiberglass cap will come off pretty easily. It is bolted to the vertical ribs.
Being a metalshaper, I wondered what it would be like if I built an aluminum rear cap that replaced the fiberglass one. Some thoughts:
- Aluminum weighs very little so the new larger rear cap would probably weigh less than the existing cap.
- The existing rear window (escape hatch) would be reused but simply slanted to follow the new shape.
- The spare tire would be relocated under the coach using the lifter mechanism that is common to most modern pickup trucks.
- The rear bumper would be moved rearward and slightly upward. It would be slightly lower than the front bumper and follow the line of the old rear bottom. This means that the new rear would not bottom any more than the old one does.
- A 24" extension at the foot area makes for a 76" bed.
- Rear twins was the ultimate goal. We can adapt to the wet bath.
Here is what it might look like. The heavy line is the new aluminum rear cap:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0001.jpg
This is straight forward metalshaping. The corners will be curved and a slight crown will exist on the back panels for strength. Some new aluminum beams will be fabricated for additional strength across the back end. Everything will bolt and glue to the existing ribs and spars.
A cutaway view shows how the bed would fit. All new construction would be limited to the bed area with almost all of it limited to the rear cap portion.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0002.jpg
No, I'm not planning on cutting up the new coach before we even use it. This is just something to think about. I do have the stripped parts coach. I could pull the rear cap off, and prototype the aluminum cap. If I got energetic enough...and found enough time. My wife likes the idea though. She doesn't like the idea of her in the back and me in the front of the coach.
Thoughts, comments, suggestions, discussion welcome. Just noodling at this point.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188693 is a reply to message #188692] |
Mon, 29 October 2012 23:32  |
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If you are gonna do all that cutting, you might as well just do a regular stretch, as it would be the easiest thing do to, as you will not have to fab an end cap, just move it, and fill the gaps with donor coach panels or sheet metal.
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| Re: Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188695 is a reply to message #188692] |
Mon, 29 October 2012 23:46 |
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mike miller
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Interesting idea. A boat tail shape should reduce drag. Are you planning on boat tailing the sides also?
Not something that would appeal to a lot of folks, but if you have the skills, equipment, money and time....
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188696 is a reply to message #188692] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 00:04 |
powerjon
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Kerry,
Way too much work for a stretch! Most common stretch for the GMC is
the addition of 24 inches added to the back. Help a friend do one
this summer, came out great. This is how it was done. Most bang for
the buck and few system changes.
http://www.gmcmidwestclassics.org/Web%20pages/stretch.htm
You have a donor coach so you have all the part you need to do the
stretch.
Here are some exterior shots, no interior shots but similar to the
GMCMWC coach. Beautiful interior great work.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46257-pa202041.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46255-dales-stretch.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46253-dales-stretch-coach.html
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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>
> My brain never shuts off. Drives me crazy sometimes.
>
> As some of you may remember, I am a metalshaper and fabricator.
> Having stripped down a 76 Eleganza to her bones for a car hauler
> project, I understand how she is structured.
>
> Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This
> was driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of the
> 23' Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was
> unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we could
> live with the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
>
> This idea precedes the purchase of the new coach. These three
> photos in the album are here:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-ideas/p46250-stock.html for
> the email only folks.
>
> The description and link to the individual images follow.
>
> What if, the rear of the coach was somehow extended enough to
> provide footroom for twins oriented front to rear I wondered? Then
> I started noodling about how this could be done on a 'standard'
> layout coach, that is, side wet bath, rear full size bed. The bath,
> generator, and water tank are pretty much unmovable without a major
> effort. Doing a 2" add on to the rear was possible but then you run
> into tail dragging issues as well as having to redo the entire
> bedroom area.
>
> Here is a line drawing of a standard coach (thanks to Byron
> Songer). It is to scale and I used 'Kerry Draw' for the design (lol):
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock.jpg
>
>
>
> The rear fiberglass cap will come off pretty easily. It is bolted
> to the vertical ribs.
>
> Being a metalshaper, I wondered what it would be like if I built an
> aluminum rear cap that replaced the fiberglass one. Some thoughts:
>
> - Aluminum weighs very little so the new larger rear cap would
> probably weigh less than the existing cap.
> - The existing rear window (escape hatch) would be reused but simply
> slanted to follow the new shape.
> - The spare tire would be relocated under the coach using the lifter
> mechanism that is common to most modern pickup trucks.
> - The rear bumper would be moved rearward and slightly upward. It
> would be slightly lower than the front bumper and follow the line of
> the old rear bottom. This means that the new rear would not bottom
> any more than the old one does.
> - A 24" extension at the foot area makes for a 76" bed.
> - Rear twins was the ultimate goal. We can adapt to the wet bath.
>
> Here is what it might look like. The heavy line is the new aluminum
> rear cap:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0001.jpg
>
>
>
> This is straight forward metalshaping. The corners will be curved
> and a slight crown will exist on the back panels for strength. Some
> new aluminum beams will be fabricated for additional strength across
> the back end. Everything will bolt and glue to the existing ribs
> and spars.
>
> A cutaway view shows how the bed would fit. All new construction
> would be limited to the bed area with almost all of it limited to
> the rear cap portion.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0002.jpg
>
>
>
> No, I'm not planning on cutting up the new coach before we even use
> it. This is just something to think about. I do have the stripped
> parts coach. I could pull the rear cap off, and prototype the
> aluminum cap. If I got energetic enough...and found enough time.
> My wife likes the idea though. She doesn't like the idea of her in
> the back and me in the front of the coach.
>
> Thoughts, comments, suggestions, discussion welcome. Just noodling
> at this point.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188697 is a reply to message #188692] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 00:39 |
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Kerry,
Depending on how tall you are I would suggest you use the 77 Eleganza and look for:
1) A rear twin GMC coach. The 76 Edgemont was a rear twin and I understand there were some Kingsley's also built as rear twins. The
beds in the GMC manufactured twins were 77 inches long.
2) A rear twin Avion coach; the beds are 75 inches long.
3) A rear twin Royale; the beds are 74 inches long.
You will NEVER recover the time, money, and work you put into stretching your Eleganza.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton
My brain never shuts off. Drives me crazy sometimes.
As some of you may remember, I am a metalshaper and fabricator. Having stripped down a 76 Eleganza to her bones for a car hauler
project, I understand how she is structured.
Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This was driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of
the 23' Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we
could live with the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
This idea precedes the purchase of the new coach. These three photos in the album are here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-ideas/p46250-stock.html for the email only folks.
The description and link to the individual images follow.
What if, the rear of the coach was somehow extended enough to provide footroom for twins oriented front to rear I wondered? Then I
started noodling about how this could be done on a 'standard' layout coach, that is, side wet bath, rear full size bed. The bath,
generator, and water tank are pretty much unmovable without a major effort. Doing a 2" add on to the rear was possible but then you
run into tail dragging issues as well as having to redo the entire bedroom area.
Here is a line drawing of a standard coach (thanks to Byron Songer). It is to scale and I used 'Kerry Draw' for the design (lol):
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock.jpg
The rear fiberglass cap will come off pretty easily. It is bolted to the vertical ribs.
Being a metalshaper, I wondered what it would be like if I built an aluminum rear cap that replaced the fiberglass one. Some
thoughts:
- Aluminum weighs very little so the new larger rear cap would probably weigh less than the existing cap.
- The existing rear window (escape hatch) would be reused but simply slanted to follow the new shape.
- The spare tire would be relocated under the coach using the lifter mechanism that is common to most modern pickup trucks.
- The rear bumper would be moved rearward and slightly upward. It would be slightly lower than the front bumper and follow the line
of the old rear bottom. This means that the new rear would not bottom any more than the old one does.
- A 24" extension at the foot area makes for a 76" bed.
- Rear twins was the ultimate goal. We can adapt to the wet bath.
Here is what it might look like. The heavy line is the new aluminum rear cap:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0001.jpg
This is straight forward metalshaping. The corners will be curved and a slight crown will exist on the back panels for strength.
Some new aluminum beams will be fabricated for additional strength across the back end. Everything will bolt and glue to the
existing ribs and spars.
A cutaway view shows how the bed would fit. All new construction would be limited to the bed area with almost all of it limited to
the rear cap portion.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0002.jpg
No, I'm not planning on cutting up the new coach before we even use it. This is just something to think about. I do have the
stripped parts coach. I could pull the rear cap off, and prototype the aluminum cap. If I got energetic enough...and found enough
time. My wife likes the idea though. She doesn't like the idea of her in the back and me in the front of the coach.
Thoughts, comments, suggestions, discussion welcome. Just noodling at this point.
--
Kerry
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188707 is a reply to message #188692] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 03:49 |
David Greenberg
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Kerry take a look at the twins produced by Clasco. Billy Massey's Lit &
Pubs site should have some Clasco floor plans. Tony Bell's design had your
feet under a shortened hanging locker.
On Oct 30, 2012 12:13 AM, "Kerry Pinkerton" <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com> wrote:
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>
> My brain never shuts off. Drives me crazy sometimes.
>
> As some of you may remember, I am a metalshaper and fabricator. Having
> stripped down a 76 Eleganza to her bones for a car hauler project, I
> understand how she is structured.
>
> Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This was
> driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of the 23'
> Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was
> unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we could live with
> the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
>
> This idea precedes the purchase of the new coach. These three photos in
> the album are here:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/coach-ideas/p46250-stock.html for the
> email only folks.
>
> The description and link to the individual images follow.
>
> What if, the rear of the coach was somehow extended enough to provide
> footroom for twins oriented front to rear I wondered? Then I started
> noodling about how this could be done on a 'standard' layout coach, that
> is, side wet bath, rear full size bed. The bath, generator, and water tank
> are pretty much unmovable without a major effort. Doing a 2" add on to the
> rear was possible but then you run into tail dragging issues as well as
> having to redo the entire bedroom area.
>
> Here is a line drawing of a standard coach (thanks to Byron Songer). It
> is to scale and I used 'Kerry Draw' for the design (lol):
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock.jpg
>
>
>
> The rear fiberglass cap will come off pretty easily. It is bolted to the
> vertical ribs.
>
> Being a metalshaper, I wondered what it would be like if I built an
> aluminum rear cap that replaced the fiberglass one. Some thoughts:
>
> - Aluminum weighs very little so the new larger rear cap would probably
> weigh less than the existing cap.
> - The existing rear window (escape hatch) would be reused but simply
> slanted to follow the new shape.
> - The spare tire would be relocated under the coach using the lifter
> mechanism that is common to most modern pickup trucks.
> - The rear bumper would be moved rearward and slightly upward. It would
> be slightly lower than the front bumper and follow the line of the old rear
> bottom. This means that the new rear would not bottom any more than the
> old one does.
> - A 24" extension at the foot area makes for a 76" bed.
> - Rear twins was the ultimate goal. We can adapt to the wet bath.
>
> Here is what it might look like. The heavy line is the new aluminum rear
> cap:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0001.jpg
>
>
>
> This is straight forward metalshaping. The corners will be curved and a
> slight crown will exist on the back panels for strength. Some new aluminum
> beams will be fabricated for additional strength across the back end.
> Everything will bolt and glue to the existing ribs and spars.
>
> A cutaway view shows how the bed would fit. All new construction would be
> limited to the bed area with almost all of it limited to the rear cap
> portion.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6221/Stock_0002.jpg
>
>
>
> No, I'm not planning on cutting up the new coach before we even use it.
> This is just something to think about. I do have the stripped parts
> coach. I could pull the rear cap off, and prototype the aluminum cap. If
> I got energetic enough...and found enough time. My wife likes the idea
> though. She doesn't like the idea of her in the back and me in the front
> of the coach.
>
> Thoughts, comments, suggestions, discussion welcome. Just noodling at
> this point.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, The Lady, 403
>
>
> 76 Eleganza being rebodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188727 is a reply to message #188709] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 09:58 |
Carl S.
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Kerry,
I think it would be an interesting solution. If you want to do it, go for it. I would be very interested in seeing the end product, just for curiosity's sake, not because I would ever attempt such an undertaking. It would certainly be a whole lot more work than a conventional stretch, but a guy with you talents could pull it off. As far as getting any kind of ROI out of it, who among us will EVER recover the time, money, and work we put into our coaches????? That's NOT why we do it! 
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188748 is a reply to message #188709] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 11:48 |
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Gene,
Thanks for posting the pictures of Doc Harvey's Rear Slide. This was
not a cheap modification as I think that he had 10 to 14K invested as
it was done by an RV coach company in Indiana, and it is a quality
coach. Doc still has the coach in storage, but has not used it much
since his wife ruth died a few years ago. I will try and see him this
winter as we are going back to Florida this winter and we are not
staying too far from where he spends his winters. He may be in the
mood to sell, but I may mean too much to him yet. I have more
pictures of the coach and interior.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3313-gmc-slide-out.html
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:12 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
> you might consider this solution
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p11176.html
>
> it has been done successfully by at least 2 owners
>
> also many other options shown in this folder
>
> gene
>
>>
>> Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This
>> was
>> driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of the 23'
>> Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was
>> unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we could
>> live with
>> the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188750 is a reply to message #188748] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 11:54 |
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There were 3 of these done
One guy from Canada. Do you know the other?
Have a safe trip to fl
Gene
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On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:48 AM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
> Gene,
> Thanks for posting the pictures of Doc Harvey's Rear Slide. This was
> not a cheap modification as I think that he had 10 to 14K invested as
> it was done by an RV coach company in Indiana, and it is a quality
> coach. Doc still has the coach in storage, but has not used it much
> since his wife ruth died a few years ago. I will try and see him this
> winter as we are going back to Florida this winter and we are not
> staying too far from where he spends his winters. He may be in the
> mood to sell, but I may mean too much to him yet. I have more
> pictures of the coach and interior.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3313-gmc-slide-out.html
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> Michigan
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:12 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
>
>> you might consider this solution
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p11176.html
>>
>> it has been done successfully by at least 2 owners
>>
>> also many other options shown in this folder
>>
>> gene
>>
>>>
>>> Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This
>>> was
>>> driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of the 23'
>>> Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was
>>> unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we could
>>> live with
>>> the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188751 is a reply to message #188750] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 11:55 |
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2 only. My fat fingers
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On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:54 AM, mr.erfisher@gmail.com wrote:
> There were 3 of these done
>
> One guy from Canada. Do you know the other?
>
> Have a safe trip to fl
>
> Gene
>
> FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:48 AM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
>
>> Gene,
>> Thanks for posting the pictures of Doc Harvey's Rear Slide. This was
>> not a cheap modification as I think that he had 10 to 14K invested as
>> it was done by an RV coach company in Indiana, and it is a quality
>> coach. Doc still has the coach in storage, but has not used it much
>> since his wife ruth died a few years ago. I will try and see him this
>> winter as we are going back to Florida this winter and we are not
>> staying too far from where he spends his winters. He may be in the
>> mood to sell, but I may mean too much to him yet. I have more
>> pictures of the coach and interior.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3313-gmc-slide-out.html
>>
>> JR Wright
>> 78 Buskirk Stretch
>> Michigan
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:12 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
>>
>>> you might consider this solution
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p11176.html
>>>
>>> it has been done successfully by at least 2 owners
>>>
>>> also many other options shown in this folder
>>>
>>> gene
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This
>>>> was
>>>> driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of the 23'
>>>> Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was
>>>> unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we could
>>>> live with
>>>> the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188755 is a reply to message #188751] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 12:47 |
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Gene,
I was unaware of another coach with a rear slide. There are at least
3 other slides that I am aware of. The one done by the guy from
Montreal which is an awesome side slide, very well done with linear
electric slides. I have pictures of this coach but I have not yet
found them. Jim B. did one a few years ago and said no more! Manny
had one that also had a drivers side door and there could possibly be
one more, but I not sure.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, mr.erfisher@gmail.com wrote:
> 2 only. My fat fingers
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> FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
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>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:48 AM, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net>
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>>> Gene,
>>> Thanks for posting the pictures of Doc Harvey's Rear Slide. This
>>> was
>>> not a cheap modification as I think that he had 10 to 14K invested
>>> as
>>> it was done by an RV coach company in Indiana, and it is a quality
>>> coach. Doc still has the coach in storage, but has not used it much
>>> since his wife ruth died a few years ago. I will try and see him
>>> this
>>> winter as we are going back to Florida this winter and we are not
>>> staying too far from where he spends his winters. He may be in the
>>> mood to sell, but I may mean too much to him yet. I have more
>>> pictures of the coach and interior.
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3313-gmc-slide-out.html
>>>
>>> JR Wright
>>> 78 Buskirk Stretch
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| Coaches with Slides [was: Idea for putting rear ...] [message #188768 is a reply to message #188755] |
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| powerjon wrote on Tue, 30 October 2012 10:47 |
Gene,
I was unaware of another coach with a rear slide. There are at least 3 other slides that I am aware of. The one done by the guy from Montreal which is an awesome side slide, very well done with linear electric slides. I have pictures of this coach but I have not yet found them. Jim B. did one a few years ago and said no more! Manny had one that also had a drivers side door and there could possibly be one more, but I not sure. ...
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About the rear slide coach:
Someone once said that the rear slide coach had a problem with leaks. I understand this is not that uncommon with slides on any coach. It might be why they all have little awnings over the slides.... but I have never seen pictures with anything over the slide on the rear slide coach. Makes you say... Hmmmm.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coaches with Slides [was: Idea for putting rear ...] [message #188769 is a reply to message #188768] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 18:02 |
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I wonder about sliding to the rear?
On Oct 30, 2012 3:54 PM, "Mike Miller" <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Twin slide coach at the Coop: <http://gmccoop.com/oz.htm>
>
> powerjon wrote on Tue, 30 October 2012 10:47
> > Gene,
> > I was unaware of another coach with a rear slide. There are at least 3
> other slides that I am aware of. The one done by the guy from Montreal
> which is an awesome side slide, very well done with linear electric slides.
> I have pictures of this coach but I have not yet found them. Jim B. did
> one a few years ago and said no more! Manny had one that also had a
> drivers side door and there could possibly be one more, but I not sure. ...
>
>
> About the rear slide coach:
>
> Someone once said that the rear slide coach had a problem with leaks. I
> understand this is not that uncommon with slides on any coach. It might be
> why they all have little awnings over the slides.... but I have never seen
> pictures with anything over the slide on the rear slide coach. Makes you
> say... Hmmmm.
>
>
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> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coaches with Slides [was: Idea for putting rear ...] [message #188776 is a reply to message #188768] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 19:49 |
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Mike,
Doc had a problem with water leaks when he first got the coach. The
RV fitter that built the slide finally got the rear seal to work well
without leaking water into the coach. As you have noticed, most
sliders on coaches have the awnings over the slides to keep the water
off the top of the slide. The addition of a top awning to Doc's coach
would be a good idea to help the improved seals on the slide.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
>
>
> Twin slide coach at the Coop: <http://gmccoop.com/oz.htm>
>
>
>> Gene,
>> I was unaware of another coach with a rear slide. There are at
>> least 3 other slides that I am aware of. The one done by the guy
>> from Montreal which is an awesome side slide, very well done with
>> linear electric slides. I have pictures of this coach but I have
>> not yet found them. Jim B. did one a few years ago and said no
>> more! Manny had one that also had a drivers side door and there
>> could possibly be one more, but I not sure. ...
>
>
> About the rear slide coach:
>
> Someone once said that the rear slide coach had a problem with
> leaks. I understand this is not that uncommon with slides on any
> coach. It might be why they all have little awnings over the
> slides.... but I have never seen pictures with anything over the
> slide on the rear slide coach. Makes you say... Hmmmm.
>
>
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coaches with Slides [was: Idea for putting rear ...] [message #188778 is a reply to message #188776] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 20:00 |
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Without the top awning on a side slide you run the risk of pulling water
into the coach after a good rain or a heavy dew. You can imagine pulling in
the slide and heading out. Upon your first stop the driver will get a
surprise shower unless an awning exists. Still it's possible to get rain on
the top of the slide if there's been a stiff wind.
--
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John Wright wrote:
> Mike,
> Doc had a problem with water leaks when he first got the coach. The
> RV fitter that built the slide finally got the rear seal to work well
> without leaking water into the coach. As you have noticed, most
> sliders on coaches have the awnings over the slides to keep the water
> off the top of the slide. The addition of a top awning to Doc's coach
> would be a good idea to help the improved seals on the slide.
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> Michigan
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Twin slide coach at the Coop: <http://gmccoop.com/oz.htm>
>>
>>
>>> Gene,
>>> I was unaware of another coach with a rear slide. There are at
>>> least 3 other slides that I am aware of. The one done by the guy
>>> from Montreal which is an awesome side slide, very well done with
>>> linear electric slides. I have pictures of this coach but I have
>>> not yet found them. Jim B. did one a few years ago and said no
>>> more! Manny had one that also had a drivers side door and there
>>> could possibly be one more, but I not sure. ...
>>
>>
>> About the rear slide coach:
>>
>> Someone once said that the rear slide coach had a problem with
>> leaks. I understand this is not that uncommon with slides on any
>> coach. It might be why they all have little awnings over the
>> slides.... but I have never seen pictures with anything over the
>> slide on the rear slide coach. Makes you say... Hmmmm.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Miller --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Idea for putting rear twins in a standard 26' [message #188788 is a reply to message #188709] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 01:11 |
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| Mr ERFisher wrote on Tue, 30 October 2012 05:12 |
you might consider this solution
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tricked-out-gmcs/p11176.html
it has been done successfully by at least 2 owners
also many other options shown in this folder
gene
>
> Ever since we started considering GMC's we wanted rear twins. This was
> driven home when we could not sleep in the full size back of the 23'
> Sequoia. Unfortunately, every coach we looked at with twins was
> unacceptable for one reason or the other and we decided we could live with
> the super nice Eleganza II we got this week.
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I considered doing that for a larger bed and no climbing over one another to get in or out. But still no isle between.
But,
1. To close the slide the bed has to fold some way (84" has to shrink to 54"), so the bed always needs to be set up, not an easy chore.
2. The top of the mattress would be uncomfortably high to climb into and out, but now the clime is from the foot of the bed. A rise (or step) on the floor would help that, but it also could be a trip hazard in the hallway.
3. After sketching all the part required to do it, my conclusion was that there would be a whole lot more work and head ache, verses a std stretch, for no comfort gains. Like a twin bed set up is.
I think that to reduce the tail dragging on a stretch; add the distance to the rear of the tail section of the frame, or part of it. The floor inside, for the isle width, can be squared off for about 12 inches more than the start of the angled step, without a problem.
FWIW.
Sometimes we do things for bragging rights to be first, or to have one of a kind, and if that's what a person wants, then more power to them.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coaches with Slides [was: Idea for putting rear ...] [message #188796 is a reply to message #188768] |
Wed, 31 October 2012 06:51 |
Steven Ferguson
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I parked next to the guy with the rear slide in FL once. Sure opened up
the bedroom but man, when it rained, it leaked big time. He spent most of
the visit trying to stop leaks.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Twin slide coach at the Coop: <http://gmccoop.com/oz.htm>
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> powerjon wrote on Tue, 30 October 2012 10:47
> > Gene,
> > I was unaware of another coach with a rear slide. There are at least 3
> other slides that I am aware of. The one done by the guy from Montreal
> which is an awesome side slide, very well done with linear electric slides.
> I have pictures of this coach but I have not yet found them. Jim B. did
> one a few years ago and said no more! Manny had one that also had a
> drivers side door and there could possibly be one more, but I not sure. ...
>
>
> About the rear slide coach:
>
> Someone once said that the rear slide coach had a problem with leaks. I
> understand this is not that uncommon with slides on any coach. It might be
> why they all have little awnings over the slides.... but I have never seen
> pictures with anything over the slide on the rear slide coach. Makes you
> say... Hmmmm.
>
>
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
> http://m000035.blogspot.com
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