| [GMCnet] The valley of the coked oil [message #187490] |
Tue, 16 October 2012 16:42  |
Dolph Santorine
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I'm getting ready to pull the intake on the coach (I did the parts coach, and it was remarkably clean).
I expect this one to be a mess.
Back in the day, we used to clean the valley in 351W Fords with Kerosene (they would get nasty in Econoline vans which had a propensity to run hot).
Is this an OK practice on the 455 Olds? (Heck, I don't know if it was an OK practice on the Fords, but that's what we did).
I'm worried about that junk getting lose.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
Dolph Santorine
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
dolph@dolphsantorine.com
1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
TZE167V100820
1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
TZE166V101610
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| Re: [GMCnet] The valley of the coked oil [message #187494 is a reply to message #187490] |
Tue, 16 October 2012 17:02  |
Dennis S
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| Dolph Santorine wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 16:42 |
I'm getting ready to pull the intake on the coach (I did the parts coach, and it was remarkably clean).
I expect this one to be a mess.
Back in the day, we used to clean the valley in 351W Fords with Kerosene (they would get nasty in Econoline vans which had a propensity to run hot).
Is this an OK practice on the 455 Olds? (Heck, I don't know if it was an OK practice on the Fords, but that's what we did).
I'm worried about that junk getting lose.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
Dolph Santorine
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Dolph,
I found a Shop Vac at Lowes on sale for $20 and that was my tool for catching all the debris. The vac survived the operation and was useful for a few others later.
After vacuuming I recall using Simple Green saturated blue paper shop towels to wipe down the valley and then wiped it again with oil.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] The valley of the coked oil [message #187495 is a reply to message #187494] |
Tue, 16 October 2012 17:08 |
Dolph Santorine
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The temptation to make a flip comment like "sucks" is strong, so I won't.
I'll do that, and wash it down with some cheap 30 weight.
Dolph
On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 16:42
>> I'm getting ready to pull the intake on the coach (I did the parts coach, and it was remarkably clean).
>>
>> I expect this one to be a mess.
>>
>> Back in the day, we used to clean the valley in 351W Fords with Kerosene (they would get nasty in Econoline vans which had a propensity to run hot).
>>
>> Is this an OK practice on the 455 Olds? (Heck, I don't know if it was an OK practice on the Fords, but that's what we did).
>>
>> I'm worried about that junk getting lose.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dolph Santorine
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> Dolph,
>
> I found a Shop Vac at Lowes on sale for $20 and that was my tool for catching all the debris. The vac survived the operation and was useful for a few others later.
>
> After vacuuming I recall using Simple Green saturated blue paper shop towels to wipe down the valley and then wiped it again with oil.
>
> Dennis
> --
> Dennis S
> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Germantown, TN
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| Re: [GMCnet] The valley of the coked oil [message #187496 is a reply to message #187495] |
Tue, 16 October 2012 17:17 |
Dennis S
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| Dolph Santorine wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 17:08 |
The temptation to make a flip comment like "sucks" is strong, so I won't.
I'll do that, and wash it down with some cheap 30 weight.
Dolph
On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 16:42
>> I'm getting ready to pull the intake on the coach (I did the parts coach, and it was remarkably clean).
>>
>> I expect this one to be a mess.
>>
>> Back in the day, we used to clean the valley in 351W Fords with Kerosene (they would get nasty in Econoline vans which had a propensity to run hot).
>>
>> Is this an OK practice on the 455 Olds? (Heck, I don't know if it was an OK practice on the Fords, but that's what we did).
>>
>> I'm worried about that junk getting lose.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dolph Santorine
>
>
> Dolph,
>
> I found a Shop Vac at Lowes on sale for $20 and that was my tool for catching all the debris. The vac survived the operation and was useful for a few others later.
>
> After vacuuming I recall using Simple Green saturated blue paper shop towels to wipe down the valley and then wiped it again with oil.
>
> Dennis
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Dolph,
I will add -- the coke was attached to the bottom of the turkey tray -- so it was the fall-off that made a mess. Particles that fall into the top of the lifters can be tricky to remove -- so you may want to pull them one at a time for cleaning.
A good cleaning and vacuuming of the gasket joint around the manifold before you pull it will also cut down on trash.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] The valley of the coked oil [message #187499 is a reply to message #187496] |
Tue, 16 October 2012 17:32 |
kelvin
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>>>> I'm getting ready to pull the intake on the coach (I did the parts coach, and it was remarkably clean).
>>>>
>>>> I expect this one to be a mess.
>>>>
>>>> Back in the day, we used to clean the valley in 351W Fords with Kerosene (they would get nasty in Econoline vans which had a propensity to run hot).
>>>>
>>>> Is this an OK practice on the 455 Olds? (Heck, I don't know if it was an OK practice on the Fords, but that's what we did).
>>>>
>>>> I'm worried about that junk getting lose.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Dolph Santorine
>>>
>>> Dolph,
>>>
>>> I found a Shop Vac at Lowes on sale for $20 and that was my tool for catching all the debris. The vac survived the operation and was useful for a few others later.
>>>
>>> After vacuuming I recall using Simple Green saturated blue paper shop towels to wipe down the valley and then wiped it again with oil.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>
> Dolph,
>
> I will add -- the coke was attached to the bottom of the turkey tray -- so it was the fall-off that made a mess. Particles that fall into the top of the lifters can be tricky to remove -- so you may want to pull them one at a time for cleaning.
> A good cleaning and vacuuming of the gasket joint around the manifold before you pull it will also cut down on trash.
> Dennis
>
There is also the fact that those pieces of coke might not have stayed
attached to the turkey tray. Over the years crumbs of the stuff
migrated past the cam and into the oil pan. My oil was being carbon
filtered, in fact.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/455-r-amp-r-engine-work/p10860.html
Cleaning that granola out of there raised my oil pressure from 39 to 48psi.
Just something to consider if you find not all of the stuff has stayed
attached...
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] The valley of the coked oil [message #187502 is a reply to message #187499] |
Tue, 16 October 2012 17:52 |
Dolph Santorine
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Kevlin:
Thanks. Nice photos.
Dolph
On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com> wrote:
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>>>>> I'm getting ready to pull the intake on the coach (I did the parts coach, and it was remarkably clean).
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect this one to be a mess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in the day, we used to clean the valley in 351W Fords with Kerosene (they would get nasty in Econoline vans which had a propensity to run hot).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this an OK practice on the 455 Olds? (Heck, I don't know if it was an OK practice on the Fords, but that's what we did).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm worried about that junk getting lose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dolph Santorine
>>>>
>>>> Dolph,
>>>>
>>>> I found a Shop Vac at Lowes on sale for $20 and that was my tool for catching all the debris. The vac survived the operation and was useful for a few others later.
>>>>
>>>> After vacuuming I recall using Simple Green saturated blue paper shop towels to wipe down the valley and then wiped it again with oil.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>
>> Dolph,
>>
>> I will add -- the coke was attached to the bottom of the turkey tray -- so it was the fall-off that made a mess. Particles that fall into the top of the lifters can be tricky to remove -- so you may want to pull them one at a time for cleaning.
>> A good cleaning and vacuuming of the gasket joint around the manifold before you pull it will also cut down on trash.
>> Dennis
>>
>
> There is also the fact that those pieces of coke might not have stayed
> attached to the turkey tray. Over the years crumbs of the stuff
> migrated past the cam and into the oil pan. My oil was being carbon
> filtered, in fact.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/455-r-amp-r-engine-work/p10860.html
>
> Cleaning that granola out of there raised my oil pressure from 39 to 48psi.
>
> Just something to consider if you find not all of the stuff has stayed
> attached...
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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