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Transmission Filters [message #187352] Mon, 15 October 2012 15:21 Go to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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We got our new issue of 'Trailer Life Magazine" the other day, and there is an article about transmission filters in it. It seems that newer vehicles have much more efficient filters on their transmissions than the older ones did. The filters used in most automatic transmissions, until recently, were pretty course, meant to filter out only large particles. This article states that even the smaller contaminates can significantly reduce the life of a transmission.

One of the filters they recommended was called a "Magnefine" filter and is an in-line filter with a magnet in the inlet. They are available (on Ebay) priced from $9.95 to $18.00. That seems like cheap insurance to me and I plan to install one in my coolant return line on the transmission and the return line on the power steering.

Has anyone had any experience with these? Is there any down side?

http://magnefinefilters.com/

http://www.emergingent.com/subpage1Magnefine.htm

http://www.magnefine.com/


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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filters [message #187354 is a reply to message #187352] Mon, 15 October 2012 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Carl

I've been using an in line trans filter since my first tranny failure..with
the regular filter as well of course. I don't have the part number but I
believe it fits a Honda .

The only down side is for the economy, I only change the main, in trans
filter, 1/2 as often. And transmission shops just about anywhere I travel,
don't get a chance to make money off of me ...again !

Just do it!

Mike in NS

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> We got our new issue of 'Trailer Life Magazine" the other day, and there
> is an article about transmission filters in it. It seems that newer
> vehicles have much more efficient filters on their transmissions than the
> older ones did. The filters used in most automatic transmissions, until
> recently, were pretty course, meant to filter out only large particles.
> This article states that even the smaller contaminates can significantly
> reduce the life of a transmission.
>
> One of the filters they recommended was called a "Magnefine" filter and is
> an in-line filter with a magnet in the inlet. They are available (on Ebay)
> priced from $9.95 to $18.00. That seems like cheap insurance to me and I
> plan to install one in my coolant return line on the transmission and the
> return line on the power steering.
>
> Has anyone had any experience with these? Is there any down side?
>
> http://magnefinefilters.com/
>
> http://www.emergingent.com/subpage1Magnefine.htm
>
> http://www.magnefine.com/
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Re: Transmission Filters [message #187360 is a reply to message #187352] Mon, 15 October 2012 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
winter is currently offline  winter   United States
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It looks like they claim 3 micron particle size. That may be fine enough to filter out additives in the fluid. I know 20 micron is enough on engine oil to filter out viscosity modifiers when its cold. Maybe one of the tranny guys can comment better.

Would the added return restriction add any extra pressure on seals in the tranny? You normally want to keep return pressure as low as possible.
Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filters [message #187370 is a reply to message #187352] Mon, 15 October 2012 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Carl,

During my bouts with crankshaft thrust bearing failures, I learned that one
of the most likely causes of such catastrophes ('tho' NOT mine) is high
hydraulic pressure in the torque converter. The area of the rear side of
the TC is about 2 sq-in less than that of the front side so that 100 psi of
pressure imposes a 200 lb force forward on the crankshaft. Since that's
near the maximum design load, excessive wear is likely.

One of the causes of excessive TC pressure is restriction of the external
cooling circuit since the output of the TC directly feeds that loop and
restriction will lead to dramatic pressure increases. I DO have an
external cooler, a frame-mounted adapter for a PH8A filter. But I've
measured the output from and input to the transmission at the bell housing
and found <10 psi difference. I'd be concerned if the drop was much more
than that. I have to wonder what the pressure drop is across the newer,
more efficient filters? Nothing comes free.

Ken H.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

>
>
> We got our new issue of 'Trailer Life Magazine" the other day, and there
> is an article about transmission filters in it. It seems that newer
> vehicles have much more efficient filters on their transmissions than the
> older ones did. The filters used in most automatic transmissions, until
> recently, were pretty course, meant to filter out only large particles.
> This article states that even the smaller contaminates can significantly
> reduce the life of a transmission.
>
> One of the filters they recommended was called a "Magnefine" filter and is
> an in-line filter with a magnet in the inlet. They are available (on Ebay)
> priced from $9.95 to $18.00. That seems like cheap insurance to me and I
> plan to install one in my coolant return line on the transmission and the
> return line on the power steering.
>
> Has anyone had any experience with these? Is there any down side?
>
> http://magnefinefilters.com/
>
> http://www.emergingent.com/subpage1Magnefine.htm
>
> http://www.magnefine.com/
> --
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Re: Transmission Filters [message #187380 is a reply to message #187352] Mon, 15 October 2012 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Another place for restriction or leak causing a dead transmision and tow job. To me the OEM setup has worked fine if you change the Dexron with each birthday. Less is more here for me with any additional pumbing and cutting into steel lines. I feel the same way about the fuel system. 1970 455 Olds 442s ran down the 1/4 mile fine with the mechanical pump and made more HP than our low comp GMC MH 455 version. Hmmm.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: Transmission Filters [message #187468 is a reply to message #187380] Tue, 16 October 2012 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Okay, Thanks for the info and opinions. I thought about the potential restriction issue and will look into how restrictive these filters are. I suspect the restriction would be minimal until the filter starts to get dirty and it would get progressively worse from there. I may just leave well enough alone, but then again...

Michael, How long have you been running an in line filter? How many miles? Do you notice a significant difference in the fluid or the sediment in the pan when you do change the fluid?


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filters [message #187489 is a reply to message #187468] Tue, 16 October 2012 16:42 Go to previous message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Carl

I had the trans done in 1997 and the tranny guy then suggested the Honda in
line filter. Since then I had it checked out about 2004 0r 2005 when I had
the engine apart...there was next to nothing wrong but I had him change the
clutch plates while he was in there. I usually change the pan filter every
2-3 years, depending on mileage and the in line every year. I have about
60-70,000 since 04/05 which ever it was.
Just what I do <g>

Mike in NS

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Okay, Thanks for the info and opinions. I thought about the potential
> restriction issue and will look into how restrictive these filters are. I
> suspect the restriction would be minimal until the filter starts to get
> dirty and it would get progressively worse from there. I may just leave
> well enough alone, but then again...
>
> Michael, How long have you been running an in line filter? How many
> miles? Do you notice a significant difference in the fluid or the sediment
> in the pan when you do change the fluid?
>
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