| New Member/Owner [message #187075] |
Fri, 12 October 2012 23:15  |
Cadillackeeper
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Location: Fort Lauderdale
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Just finally got a gift 77 455 Eleganza In perfect shape in/out.Drove it around town for a week or so,now its dead everytime.Something is drawing.Where is the first place to go?
Oh,My daily driver is a 67 Eldo with a Built 500 and the SP trans!!!
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187077 is a reply to message #187076] |
Fri, 12 October 2012 23:20  |
Cadillackeeper
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I am in Fla and Jeff has seen the coach already.I just meant where to look for a battery killing short.I just assumed there were things that fail more than others.
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187079 is a reply to message #187075] |
Fri, 12 October 2012 23:33 |
Ken Burton
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If it is your engine battery that is going dead then consider this the same as working on any other car of the 1970's vintage with one added component. that component is the isolator. The isolator is a nothing more than a diode in line with the alternator charging lead.
So I would shoot the problem looking at the obvious things first .
1. Water in the battery
2. Loose or dirty connections (primarily on the battery cables)
3. Alternator not charging
4. Bad isolator
5. Something left on draining the battery
6. Bad battery
Time to get out the meter and start looking.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187081 is a reply to message #187075] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 00:00 |
Craig Lechowicz
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1977's should have a spring loaded boost switch on the dash, but mine will occasionally stick on boost. If it does so, the load of the boost solenoid will run down both the house and starting batteries.
Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187094 is a reply to message #187075] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 08:10 |
JohnL455
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A basic test light probe would be the first tool to get going. Loosen one fuse at a time in the glovebox and see if you get a light between the loose leg of the fuse and panel. When you say dead do you mean engine and house? Meter across the batteries engine running to see if you have 14V or so.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187097 is a reply to message #187075] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 08:31 |
lqqkatjon
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If i leave my air suspension in travel. Not hold. My battery will be dead.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187103 is a reply to message #187075] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 09:01 |
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Matt Colie
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| Cadillackeeper wrote on Sat, 13 October 2012 00:15 |
Just finally got a gift 77 455 Eleganza In perfect shape in/out.Drove it around town for a week or so,now its dead everytime.Something is drawing.Where is the first place to go?
Oh,My daily driver is a 67 Eldo with a Built 500 and the SP trans!!!
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Well Anthony,
Welcome to the group, family, cult or asylum..
This is the first place to go.
Before you get very far, go into the control panel and set a sigfile that has a real name, coach description and a geographic reference. This is so those here that want to and can help, know who they are talking to, what they are dealing with and where you are so they know what resources you have access to.
About the engine battery draw-down.
Do You own and know how to use a meter?
If no, go get at least a cheapy at like Harbor Fright, or Ebuy.
If yes, we have a chance here.
First, with the battery charged, disconnect it and measure its voltage. Let it and hour and measure again. Then, let sit as long as you can and see if the voltage has fallen any amount you can measure. If it has, the battery is probably toast.
Second test.. Get a little light bulb and attach two wires with clips on the end. Put it between the battery and the cable. It should not light. If it does, then you have just proven that you do have a drain. So, start pulling fuses until the light goes out. If no fuse makes the light go out, you have some real problem that may take considerable skill to locate.
Lastly, you will find that the coach becomes more a part of your life than just another toy or vehicle. It is more like a boat is to watermen. That is why I like to welcome new owners in a similar manner to that. So,
May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within her.
Welcome Antony
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] New Member/Owner [message #187105 is a reply to message #187081] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 09:11 |
jhbridges
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As I understand it, (and my tw coaches bear this out) the Transmode has a two position switch which stays where you put it, while the Motorhome has a spring loaded switch which must be held in Boost.
--johnny
"76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Craig Lechowicz <craig.lechowicz@sbcglobal.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New Member/Owner
1977's should have a spring loaded boost switch on the dash, but mine will occasionally stick on boost. If it does so, the load of the boost solenoid will run down both the house and starting batteries.
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Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] New Member/Owner [message #187107 is a reply to message #187097] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 09:17 |
jhbridges
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If the compressor(s) are wired directly to the battery, as opposed to through the ignition switch, and you have a slow leak in the air system someplace (not at all uncommon) the compressor(s) will cycle on and off as needed and eventually drain the battery. Chase some wires, and see what's hooked up where.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New Member/Owner
If i leave my air suspension in travel. Not hold. My battery will be dead.
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75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] New Member/Owner [message #187108 is a reply to message #187075] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 09:14 |
powerjon
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Anthony,
You should add a signature to your emails to this group. It is a
great value as it would tell us what year and coach you have a where
in the county you live. This helps in giving you correct information
when trouble shooting or other and where the nearest service is. I
would suggest the following as a minimum.
Anthony
Any coach
Any location
Good luck on your new coach and welcome to the GMCnet.
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
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> Just finally got a gift 77 455 Eleganza In perfect shape in/
> out.Drove it around town for a week or so,now its dead
> everytime.Something is drawing.Where is the first place to go?
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> Oh,My daily driver is a 67 Eldo with a Built 500 and the SP trans!!!
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Michigan
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187113 is a reply to message #187075] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 10:49 |
Cadillackeeper
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So I have determined,1k just is no space for a photo at all.Why do they have a file
upload even here?
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: New Member/Owner [message #187124 is a reply to message #187114] |
Sat, 13 October 2012 12:06 |
Ken Burton
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First of all your Facebook link worked fine.
Second, There are two kind of users here. Some use an archaic text only email system to view GMCnet and some use the web based forum. The text only email users can not see any photos posted to the web based forum. So to get around that problem and to also provide a trusted archive site, a 3rd site was setup. This site is www.gmcmhphotos.com. This site will serve the same purpose and can be linked to in the same way that you did to your facebook page.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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