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Wed, 10 October 2012 20:34  |
carnutbill
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I have a Birch screen door without hinges, does anyone have any hinges for sale or know where I can buy Birch hinges or have a dimensional drawing of the hinges so I could duplicate them? thanks bill
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186931 is a reply to message #186921] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 22:18  |
powerjon
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Bill,
I do know of a guy that was very close to Alex Birch and did get a lot
of the parts when Alex cleaned out his basement. I got some of the
original plastic door moulding to replace the damaged stuff on my 1975
avion with a Birch door from him. I will see him in a couple of weeks
and I can ask if he has any hinges. Other than that, no one else may
have any, but there is always that chance. Alex made the hinges
himself so that was the only place you could get them from.
The hinge is pretty complex and unless you have one to duplicate a
picture will not be much help, but here is one anyway.
http://www.bdub.net/pictures/birch/hinge.jpg
Instructions on how to mount the door.
http://www.bdub.net/manuals/Birch_Screen_Door_Installation_Instructions.pdf
or
http://tinyurl.com/l56f29
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Oct 10, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Bill Gagnier wrote:
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> I have a Birch screen door without hinges, does anyone have any
> hinges for sale or know where I can buy Birch hinges or have a
> dimensional drawing of the hinges so I could duplicate them? thanks
> bill
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> 75pb mailto:carnutbill@frontier.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186946 is a reply to message #186931] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 08:49 |
nchapekis
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| powerjon wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 23:18 |
I got some of the original plastic door moulding to replace the damaged stuff on my 1975 avion with a Birch door from him.
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Hey JR, while you're at it, could you ask him if he has any more of the plastic molding. Mine is damaged as well.
Thanks!
Nick Chapekis
Ypsilanti, MI
former owner - 78 Kingsley
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186951 is a reply to message #186946] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 11:04 |
mickeysss
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pardon me for mentioning this again, RE; screen door design vs west nile virus
I need screens for my old type roof fans for my 77 palm beach, any ideas where to get them?
here is my new screen door.
http://www.asseenontvvideo.com/512450/Magic-Mesh-Screen-Door.html
THis screen door above costs $20 and it can save your life. West Nile is killing people even in Fullerton Ca. here.
THere is no bugs here and it is happening. about 3 people have died. I talked to a family on my shuttle in canada and
it is up there as well. Just keeping the eye on the ball here when it comes to screen doors. Magic mesh is easy to hang and works great.
i got one for $12. Until i can get a better one.
9:46AM EST October 11. 2012 - Your Thursday morning health roundup:
West Nile update: This year's West Nile virus outbreak is now close to being the second largest on record, but the number of new cases is continuing to drop as autumn sets in, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports. Officials reported 280 new cases and five new deaths, bringing the totals to 4,249 cases and 168 deaths. There were just 20 more cases of the mosquito-borne illness in all of 2006, but the largest U.S. outbreak was in 2003, with 9,862 cases.
best regards
mickey
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.
On Oct 11, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Nick Chapekis wrote:
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> powerjon wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 23:18
>> I got some of the original plastic door moulding to replace the damaged stuff on my 1975 avion with a Birch door from him.
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> Hey JR, while you're at it, could you ask him if he has any more of the plastic molding. Mine is damaged as well.
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> Thanks!
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> Nick Chapekis
> Ypsilanti, MI
> 78 Kingsley
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186952 is a reply to message #186951] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 11:23 |
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Matt Colie
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| mickeysss wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 12:04 |
pardon me for mentioning this again, RE; screen door design vs west nile virus
I need screens for my old type roof fans for my 77 palm beach, any ideas where to get them?
here is my new screen door.
No url - Magic-Mesh-Screen-Door -
THis screen door above costs $20 and it can save your life. West Nile is killing people even in Fullerton Ca. here.
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best regards
mickey
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That looks good, but when I got one of those for my coach, it took two days to stitch in the pleats, tucks and gussets that it needed to and then stitch and stick the Velcro all the way around so it would fit the coach's tumblehome. We like it, but if a Birch door had been available, it might have been a better choice.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186956 is a reply to message #186952] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 13:41 |
jknezek
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| Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 12:23 |
That looks good, but when I got one of those for my coach, it took two days to stitch in the pleats, tucks and gussets that it needed to and then stitch and stick the Velcro all the way around so it would fit the coach's tumblehome. We like it, but if a Birch door had been available, it might have been a better choice.
Matt
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You got off easy. Took me way more than 2 days to fit a Birch Door to my coach, including Bob Burkitt's help. Without his help I probably would have destroyed the thing long before I got it to work nicely. Of course, now that it's on, I love having it.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186958 is a reply to message #186956] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 14:05 |
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USAussie
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Jeremy,
I remember walking past you coach over the course of those two days at Bean Station and noting that you two had the patience of Job!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy
You got off easy. Took me way more than 2 days to fit a Birch Door to my coach, including Bob Burkitt's help. Without his help I
probably would have destroyed the thing long before I got it to work nicely. Of course, now that it's on, I love having it.
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Thanks,
Jeremy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186961 is a reply to message #186958] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 14:17 |
jknezek
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 15:05 |
Jeremy,
I remember walking past you coach over the course of those two days at Bean Station and noting that you two had the patience of Job!
Regards,
Rob M.
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Rob -- even after i got home I worked on that thing for hours and hours more before I got it the way I wanted it. With the age and sag of coaches, and the various ailments the doors have picked up over 35-40 years, it's just no easy task to get a screen door on. But they are just incredibly worth it once you get it done.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186964 is a reply to message #186961] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 15:28 |
Kingsley Coach
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Alex always allowed a LOT of time to install one of his doors! For us, we
only do it a couple of times...
Mike in NS
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Jeremy <jtknezek@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 15:05
> > Jeremy,
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> > I remember walking past you coach over the course of those two days at
> Bean Station and noting that you two had the patience of Job!
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> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
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> Rob -- even after i got home I worked on that thing for hours and hours
> more before I got it the way I wanted it. With the age and sag of coaches,
> and the various ailments the doors have picked up over 35-40 years, it's
> just no easy task to get a screen door on. But they are just incredibly
> worth it once you get it done.
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> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186968 is a reply to message #186961] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 16:30 |
Ken Henderson
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I bought a used Birch door in 2000 in preparation for our trip to Alaska
(home of swarms of Eagle-sized mosquitos). After solid week of my life
making it fit well enough for me and a boy to slam the entry door shut, we
made the trip (and saw almost NO mosquitos).
It came off and went to the next lucky sucker as soon as we got home.
Ken "Still Congratulating Myself" H.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Jeremy wrote:
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> Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 15:05
> > Jeremy,
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> > I remember walking past you coach over the course of those two days at
> Bean Station and noting that you two had the patience of Job!
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> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
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> Rob -- even after i got home I worked on that thing for hours and hours
> more before I got it the way I wanted it. With the age and sag of coaches,
> and the various ailments the doors have picked up over 35-40 years, it's
> just no easy task to get a screen door on. But they are just incredibly
> worth it once you get it done.
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> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #186987 is a reply to message #186946] |
Thu, 11 October 2012 23:06 |
midlf
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| nchapekis wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 08:49 |
Hey JR, while you're at it, could you ask him if he has any more of the plastic molding. Mine is damaged as well.
Thanks!
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Ray Erspammer had found some. I don't know if he still has any available.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: Birch screen door [message #186994 is a reply to message #186921] |
Fri, 12 October 2012 06:46 |
wangwu0510
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Hello. I am a new members of the forums.My name is wangwu. Please take care. I like music, basketball as well as climbing and reading, interested could get together and communicate with everyone.wordoffice2007
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| Re: [GMCnet] Birch screen door [message #187007 is a reply to message #187005] |
Fri, 12 October 2012 08:51 |
jknezek
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Definitely a substitute. Bob B. uses the original, which is an off white hard plastic that he modifies one section to get around the latch mechanism. Ray uses a flexible, black, soft rubber trim that flexes around the latching mechanism. I believe Ray's is slightly more expensive than Bob's. I tried both on my coach and ended up preferring Ray's. Since it is flexible, it has some give where the door pushes on it. Before I got the Birch just right, I had to slam my door a bit hard to get it all to close. That caused the hard plastic trim to crack in areas where the fit wasn't quite right. The soft rubber trim was a little more forgiving. Plus my wife and I preferred the black color to the off-white. The black is also wider, so it seems like it got a better seal.
Just my 2 cents and your mileage may vary. Both attach the same way with the same ease of use.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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