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Wed, 10 October 2012 16:37  |
Galen
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I've seen a lot of discussion on removing the decal stripes down the side of the body. I have a '78 Palm Beach, (photo here http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46112-78-palm-beach.html). The green has really grown on me, and we love the smiles it produces. I am guessing the stripes are not original...it's a dark green over a copper colored stripe, and my wife and I find it hideous.
Now I realize there are many more pressing issues for humanity  , and even the GMC MH community at large, but I'd like to hear some advice on what I would/could change to. I don't see a full paint job in the future anytime soon. The top green has shined up nicely. The lower light green has been touched up here and there, and I could see repainting the lower half. But lets say the body colors stayed the same, not trying to modernize anything, just complement the body. What were the original stripes options? I've seen decals on this color scheme that were blue (there's one here http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/bysong.html) and no offense meant, but that's worse than what I have. I've seen photos of other PB's with the top green, and what looks like white lower with a gradient light to dark type stripes, and that looks nice, but don't know on mine? Any suggestions, and thanks in advance.
Galen
Galen Briggs
New Virginia, Iowa
1978 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Decal Stripes Options [message #186894 is a reply to message #186891] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 17:49  |
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Blue and green should never be seen.....need I go on? <VBG>
Mike in NS
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Galen Briggs <gpbriggs@iowatelecom.net>wrote:
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> I've seen a lot of discussion on removing the decal stripes down the side
> of the body. I have a '78 Palm Beach, (photo here
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46112-78-palm-beach.html).
> The green has really grown on me, and we love the smiles it produces. I am
> guessing the stripes are not original...it's a dark green over a copper
> colored stripe, and my wife and I find it hideous.
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> Now I realize there are many more pressing issues for humanity :p , and
> even the GMC MH community at large, but I'd like to hear some advice on
> what I would/could change to. I don't see a full paint job in the future
> anytime soon. The top green has shined up nicely. The lower light green has
> been touched up here and there, and I could see repainting the lower half.
> But lets say the body colors stayed the same, not trying to modernize
> anything, just complement the body. What were the original stripes options?
> I've seen decals on this color scheme that were blue (there's one here
> http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/bysong.html) and no offense meant,
> but that's worse than what I have. I've seen photos of other PB's with the
> top green, and what looks like white lower with a gradient light to dark
> type stripes, and that looks nice, but don't know on mine? Any
> suggestions, and thanks in advance.
>
> Galen
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| Re: Decal Stripes Options [message #186901 is a reply to message #186891] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 18:45 |
C Boyd
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Here is what they looked like new.
http://www.bdub.net/publications/
| Galen wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 17:37 |
I've seen a lot of discussion on removing the decal stripes down the side of the body. I have a '78 Palm Beach, (photo here http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46112-78-palm-beach.html). The green has really grown on me, and we love the smiles it produces. I am guessing the stripes are not original...it's a dark green over a copper colored stripe, and my wife and I find it hideous.
Now I realize there are many more pressing issues for humanity , and even the GMC MH community at large, but I'd like to hear some advice on what I would/could change to. I don't see a full paint job in the future anytime soon. The top green has shined up nicely. The lower light green has been touched up here and there, and I could see repainting the lower half. But lets say the body colors stayed the same, not trying to modernize anything, just complement the body. What were the original stripes options? I've seen decals on this color scheme that were blue (there's one here http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/bysong.html) and no offense meant, but that's worse than what I have. I've seen photos of other PB's with the top green, and what looks like white lower with a gradient light to dark type stripes, and that looks nice, but don't know on mine? Any suggestions, and thanks in advance.
Galen
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| Re: Decal Stripes Options [message #186902 is a reply to message #186891] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 18:58 |
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Thanks for the link. So was the Palm Beach only offered in one color scheme, as in the Green over White that the brochure shows? My bottom half is more light green than the whiter color I've seen in the brochure and other photos online, more like the one on the link I posted with the (gasp) blue stripe. Mine also has what I thought to be an original decal right at the roof cap line that is that same blue, white and brown.
Hard to beat what's in the brochure.
Galen Briggs
New Virginia, Iowa
1978 Palm Beach
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| Re: Decal Stripes Options [message #186904 is a reply to message #186902] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 19:08 |
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here is the colors, 78 Palm Beach was offered as 2 tone I believe. It is my favorite.
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/faq/GMCExterior2.html
| Galen wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 19:58 |
Thanks for the link. So was the Palm Beach only offered in one color scheme, as in the Green over White that the brochure shows? My bottom half is more light green than the whiter color I've seen in the brochure and other photos online, more like the one on the link I posted with the (gasp) blue stripe. Mine also has what I thought to be an original decal right at the roof cap line that is that same blue, white and brown.
Hard to beat what's in the brochure.
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| Re: Decal Stripes Options [message #186906 is a reply to message #186904] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 19:11 |
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here is some more stuff
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/index.html
here are the manuals
http://www.bdub.net/manuals/index.html
| C Boyd wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 20:08 |
here is the colors, 78 Palm Beach was offered as 2 tone I believe. It is my favorite.
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/faq/GMCExterior2.html
| Galen wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 19:58 |
Thanks for the link. So was the Palm Beach only offered in one color scheme, as in the Green over White that the brochure shows? My bottom half is more light green than the whiter color I've seen in the brochure and other photos online, more like the one on the link I posted with the (gasp) blue stripe. Mine also has what I thought to be an original decal right at the roof cap line that is that same blue, white and brown.
Hard to beat what's in the brochure.
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| Re: Decal Stripes Options [message #186920 is a reply to message #186891] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 20:12 |
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| Galen wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 14:37 |
I've seen a lot of discussion on removing the decal stripes down the side of the body. I have a '78 Palm Beach, (photo here http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46112-78-palm-beach.html). The green has really grown on me, and we love the smiles it produces. I am guessing the stripes are not original...it's a dark green over a copper colored stripe, and my wife and I find it hideous.
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... I've seen photos of other PB's with the top green, and what looks like white lower with a gradient light to dark type stripes, and that looks nice, but don't know on mine? Any suggestions, ...
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Galen,
For the most part the model is what sets the colors. The early coaches (73/74) the buyer had SOME choice in external colors. But starting in 1975, the color of the models, inside and out was set by the model.
In 1978, the GM upfitted coaches got the two tone paint with the three color stripes. I personally think they had the best paint schemes of all the OEM coaches. <http://www.bdub.net/publications/1978%20GMC%20Motorhomes/1978%20Models02.htm>
The color differences you have noticed in the 1978 coaches of the same model are mostly due to two reasons:
1.) How the coaches have been treated over the last 35 years.
2.) The change in type of paint of the last coaches of production. To explain, most GMC'ers know that GM changed to Imron paint (a very good paint) in the middle of the 1975 model year. But most do not know that just before the end of production, they changed the paint again. (I have been told the later paint was more environmentally friendly.) I do not know when the change was made, but my late 1978 Birchaven does NOT have Imron paint. This newer paint is damaged more easily.
It would be nice to have reproduction stripes in the 1978 style. While you could use rolls of separate colors and put them on. The only tricky part is around the front corners. Many let the stripes rise as they round the corner.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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| Re: [GMCnet] Decal Stripes Options [message #186922 is a reply to message #186891] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 20:31 |
Joe Scheub
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My original 78 Palm Beach has stripes that have faded to the colors similar to the Bethune link, but the original colors were three colors a light green, medium green and a brownish green. The top two greens fade badly and the blue base stock shows through. Walt Halley from Plain City Oh has a 78 Palm Beach with the original colors. Your strip is attractive though.
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From: Galen Briggs <gpbriggs@iowatelecom.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:37 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Decal Stripes Options
I've seen a lot of discussion on removing the decal stripes down the side of the body. I have a '78 Palm Beach, (photo here http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46112-78-palm-beach.html). The green has really grown on me, and we love the smiles it produces. I am guessing the stripes are not original...it's a dark green over a copper colored stripe, and my wife and I find it hideous.
Now I realize there are many more pressing issues for humanity :p , and even the GMC MH community at large, but I'd like to hear some advice on what I would/could change to. I don't see a full paint job in the future anytime soon. The top green has shined up nicely. The lower light green has been touched up here and there, and I could see repainting the lower half. But lets say the body colors stayed the same, not trying to modernize anything, just complement the body. What were the original stripes options? I've seen decals on this color scheme that were blue (there's one here http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/bysong.html) and no offense meant, but that's worse than what I have. I've seen photos of other PB's with the top green, and what looks like white lower with a gradient light to dark type stripes, and that looks nice, but don't know on mine? Any suggestions, and thanks in advance.
Galen
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1978 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Decal Stripes Options [message #186925 is a reply to message #186920] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 20:53 |
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There's a reason the strip rises as it rounds the corner. It's basic
geometry. The striping, done by GMC, is the same distance from the ground.
Hence, when measuring up around the front corner and hood the distance from
the bottom to the top of the stripe is greater than on the nearly
perpendicular side. There is no great angle to account for on the side as
there is on the hood and front color.
This is also how you tell if the stripe is painted on or vinyl. The stripe
changes in width as it goes around the curve and over the hood(s). On a wide
vinyl stripe it doesn't change. Therefore, it looks amateurish.
If I were Galen I'd look into removing the gold stripe and painting a darker
color in it's place. It would improve the looks. I'm also betting the lower
part of the body was repainted at some point in time. From the photo the
color seems to do well. The gold was an owner's thought of what looked good
(and may have been on sale which led to a cheap fix of another problem).
It's all cosmetology.
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Mike Miller wrote:
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> Galen wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 14:37
>> I've seen a lot of discussion on removing the decal stripes down the side of
>> the body. I have a '78 Palm Beach, (photo here
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p46112-78-palm-beach.html)
>> . The green has really grown on me, and we love the smiles it produces. I am
>> guessing the stripes are not original...it's a dark green over a copper
>> colored stripe, and my wife and I find it hideous.
>> ...
>>
>> ... I've seen photos of other PB's with the top green, and what looks like
>> white lower with a gradient light to dark type stripes, and that looks nice,
>> but don't know on mine? Any suggestions, ...
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> Galen,
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> For the most part the model is what sets the colors. The early coaches
> (73/74) the buyer had SOME choice in external colors. But starting in 1975,
> the color of the models, inside and out was set by the model.
>
> In 1978, the GM upfitted coaches got the two tone paint with the three color
> stripes. I personally think they had the best paint schemes of all the OEM
> coaches.
> <http://www.bdub.net/publications/1978%20GMC%20Motorhomes/1978%20Models02.htm>
>
> The color differences you have noticed in the 1978 coaches of the same model
> are mostly due to two reasons:
>
> 1.) How the coaches have been treated over the last 35 years.
>
> 2.) The change in type of paint of the last coaches of production. To
> explain, most GMC'ers know that GM changed to Imron paint (a very good paint)
> in the middle of the 1975 model year. But most do not know that just before
> the end of production, they changed the paint again. (I have been told the
> later paint was more environmentally friendly.) I do not know when the change
> was made, but my late 1978 Birchaven does NOT have Imron paint. This newer
> paint is damaged more easily.
>
> It would be nice to have reproduction stripes in the 1978 style. While you
> could use rolls of separate colors and put them on. The only tricky part is
> around the front corners. Many let the stripes rise as they round the corner.
>
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| Re: Decal Stripes Options [message #186932 is a reply to message #186891] |
Wed, 10 October 2012 22:50 |
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Thanks a bunch to all you who replied on and off line. I never really consciously noticed that little hiccup going around the front corner before....thanks, now I can't stop looking at it! 
The good news is, for now, everything is working well enough on the coach I can be hung up on my trivial stripe. I've had it right at a year, and thanks to the websites, this forum, and your willingness to share info, we've been able to enjoy using it alot this year.
Thanks,
Galen
Galen Briggs
New Virginia, Iowa
1978 Palm Beach
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| Re: Decal Stripes Options [message #186937 is a reply to message #186932] |
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| Galen wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 20:50 |
Thanks a bunch to all you who replied on and off line. I never really consciously noticed that little hiccup going around the front corner before....thanks, now I can't stop looking at it!
The good news is, ...
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Believe it or not, I hadn't noticed the "corner hiccup" on YOUR coach. I glanced at the colors and started typing...
-- Your front corner hiccups are not that bad... compared to a lot I have seen.
I was mostly stating why I thought it would be nice to have sets of stripes pre-made even for what appears to be a simple pattern. I am thinking of a set of with silver/blue/black (or dark blue) for a 23 foot coach. But when all is said, it might be easier to have them painted on. I know they would last longer.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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